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hi
My name is Sam and i am really warried.
i m italtan national and i get married last year with pakistani national on student visa .
he applied firstly for cco2 when we get permision we get married in consil and then my husband force me to applied for EEA2 application form because he was telling his visa was exprining
after 5 month he get the residence card .

After having the residence card he totally changed his behaviour.
and now i applied for the divorce .
can i cancel his residence card??
Can you please help me as soon as possible because he ruined my life because of his visa status.

Sam_12 wrote:hi
My name is Sam and i am really warried.
i m italtan national and i get married last year with pakistani national on student visa .
he applied firstly for cco2 when we get permision we get married in consil and then my husband force me to applied for EEA2 application form because he was telling his visa was exprining
after 5 month he get the residence card .

After having the residence card he totally changed his behaviour.
and now i applied for the divorce .
can i cancel his residence card??
Can you please help me as soon as possible because he ruined my life because of his visa status.

i am not sure if you can cancel his RC but i guess you could write a letter to home office and explain the situation also he can't apply for EE4 if you haven't been married for 3 years.

That is what UK and Europe is turning people to, if only you married because of residence card, but as for me, i will let it go, sometime relationship goes bad and in the future you can still be friends if no harm as been done.

Only the Home Office can cancel residence cards. What you can do is inform them about the current situation if you wish so. Most effective will probably be to get divorced ASAP. A divorced person can only retain EEA rights if he/she has been married for at least three years and one of those years at least has been spent in the host member state.

You may also want to consult with a solicitor to discuss possible impacts on yourself.

86ti wrote:Only the Home Office can cancel residence cards. What you can do is inform them about the current situation if you wish so. Most effective will probably be to get divorced ASAP. A divorced person can only retain EEA rights if he/she has been married for at least three years and one of those years at least has been spent in the host member state.

You may also want to consult with a solicitor to discuss possible impacts on yourself.

i consult some solicitor but some said it can cancel and some told is not possibile to cancel .
one of the solicitore told me to get as soon as possibile the divorse and the write the letter telling about the situation.

i called home office as well but the lady who answered my call she said she cant help me in this matter.

rachellynn1972 wrote:That is what UK and Europe is turning people to, if only you married because of residence card, but as for me, i will let it go, sometime relationship goes bad and in the future you can still be friends if no harm as been done.

mates its really not easy when you are decieved by some one....

Sam_12 wrote:hi
My name is Sam and i am really warried.
i m italtan national and i get married last year with pakistani national on student visa .
he applied firstly for cco2 when we get permision we get married in consil and then my husband force me to applied for EEA2 application form because he was telling his visa was exprining
after 5 month he get the residence card .

After having the residence card he totally changed his behaviour.
and now i applied for the divorce .
can i cancel his residence card??
Can you please help me as soon as possible because he ruined my life because of his visa status.

right here we are again when some one showed a true colour. what you have to do is write an email to HO on

Phone: 0800 555 111

Email: UKBApublicenquiries@ukba.gsi.gov.uk

as this comes under immigration offence if i am not wrong as its a false marrige or marrige for personal benefit. you need to send

1) FULL NAME OF YOUR PARTNER

2) HIS ID PHOTOCOPY

3) HIS NI NUMBER OR HIS OLD TAX PAPERS

4) IF HE IS NOT WITH YOU THAN HIS ADDRESS WHERE HE IS NOW IF YOU KNOW

5) YOUR MARRIGE CERTIFICATE

6) LETTER EXPLAINING WHAT HE IS DOING TO YOU BY EXAMPLES AND IN DETAIL

7) ANY MARKS ON HIS BODY WHICH ARE PHYSICAL, HIS COLUR, HEIGHT ETC APPROXIMATE

YOUR ID PHOTOCOPIES

NOW MAKE SURE YOU SEND THESE THINGS BY RECORDED DELIVERY AND MAKE SURE YOU FORWARD ALL THESEDOCUMENTS + YOUR COMPLAINT LETTERS TO ALL THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AUTHOROTIES

( I MIGHT SOUND STRANGE HERE BUT BELIVE ME THIS IS WHAT I READ AND HEARDIN A LIVE TV SHOW AS IF YOUR HUSBAND WILL LEAVE THE COUNTRY AND TRY TO RENTER THEY WILL HAVE A RED MARK ON HIS RECORD AND IMMIGRATION OFFICER WONT LET HIM IN)

I HOPE THIS WILL REALLY HELP

OH LAST THING HO WONT CALL YOU ABOUT THEIR PROGRESS AS ITS CONFIDENTIAL. THEY DEAL IN THEIR OWN WAY. BUT YOU CAN ASK THEM AND THEY MIGHT TELL YOU SOMETHING...

I WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK AND SORRY FOR YOUR PROBLEMS

Punjab wrote:

Sam_12 wrote:hi
My name is Sam and i am really warried.
i m italtan national and i get married last year with pakistani national on student visa .
he applied firstly for cco2 when we get permision we get married in consil and then my husband force me to applied for EEA2 application form because he was telling his visa was exprining
after 5 month he get the residence card .

After having the residence card he totally changed his behaviour.
and now i applied for the divorce .
can i cancel his residence card??
Can you please help me as soon as possible because he ruined my life because of his visa status.

right here we are again when some one showed a true colour. what you have to do is write an email to HO on

Phone: 0800 555 111

Email: UKBApublicenquiries@ukba.gsi.gov.uk

as this comes under immigration offence if i am not wrong as its a false marrige or marrige for personal benefit. you need to send

1) FULL NAME OF YOUR PARTNER

2) HIS ID PHOTOCOPY

3) HIS NI NUMBER OR HIS OLD TAX PAPERS

4) IF HE IS NOT WITH YOU THAN HIS ADDRESS WHERE HE IS NOW IF YOU KNOW

5) YOUR MARRIGE CERTIFICATE

6) LETTER EXPLAINING WHAT HE IS DOING TO YOU BY EXAMPLES AND IN DETAIL

7) ANY MARKS ON HIS BODY WHICH ARE PHYSICAL, HIS COLUR, HEIGHT ETC APPROXIMATE

YOUR ID PHOTOCOPIES

NOW MAKE SURE YOU SEND THESE THINGS BY RECORDED DELIVERY AND MAKE SURE YOU FORWARD ALL THESEDOCUMENTS + YOUR COMPLAINT LETTERS TO ALL THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AUTHOROTIES

( I MIGHT SOUND STRANGE HERE BUT BELIVE ME THIS IS WHAT I READ AND HEARDIN A LIVE TV SHOW AS IF YOUR HUSBAND WILL LEAVE THE COUNTRY AND TRY TO RENTER THEY WILL HAVE A RED MARK ON HIS RECORD AND IMMIGRATION OFFICER WONT LET HIM IN)

I HOPE THIS WILL REALLY HELP

OH LAST THING HO WONT CALL YOU ABOUT THEIR PROGRESS AS ITS CONFIDENTIAL. THEY DEAL IN THEIR OWN WAY. BUT YOU CAN ASK THEM AND THEY MIGHT TELL YOU SOMETHING...

I WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK AND SORRY FOR YOUR PROBLEMS

I don’t make Judgment on one person statement, I have seen someone that because she knows her partner was in the country on her right, she decided to run over him, use him as a slave and talk down to him, blabber him in front of friends and cheat on him openly, this is what she cannot do but not until her spouse have gotten a say in the country on her right, this is what the country and Europe has made marriage and relationship to be. For me sometime I do not count it as betrayer, if you call it a betrayal, that mean everyone is up to it, if not for the stay and anyone requesting a right, they should take their spouse out of UK and Europe and live in their own country which will welcome European citizen spouse with an open arm. To me as an European citizen, if this happen to me, I will just let go, moreover, I respect my non eea husband and he respect me, we love each others, am the one that want him to stay as for him he never mind.
If her spouse was an European, will the spouse be looking into that? NO, I have also see many Citizen here and Europeans spouse that will treat the other European spouse like shit, the way they like, but no one will call the Home Office because of that, that was the reason the Home Office says they have nothing to do with that. Non EEA living in UK do not come with a life jacket. If you can't hacket, grab your jacket...

rachellynn1972 wrote:That is what UK and Europe is turning people to, if only you married because of residence card, but as for me, i will let it go, sometime relationship goes bad and in the future you can still be friends if no harm as been done.

i want to live with him but the thing is if some one doesnot want to live then what i can do.
he already applied for eea2 and he had residence card since 5 month.

Sam_12 wrote:

rachellynn1972 wrote:That is what UK and Europe is turning people to, if only you married because of residence card, but as for me, i will let it go, sometime relationship goes bad and in the future you can still be friends if no harm as been done.

i want to live with him but the thing is if some one doesnot want to live then what i can do.
he already applied for eea2 and he had residence card since 5 month.

Actually, if your marriage is lesser than 3yrs, then go for a divource as he is not ready to live with you, that is a sham marriage, in your divource note, let them know he manipulated you to get married for his own favour which you did not know, now that you know, you dont want anything to do with him, as he is not ready to live with you as husband and wife, make sure you say it was a marriage of convinience, UKBA can withdraw the residence card if they know it was a marriage of convinience and this can be prove by you as a withness.

rachellynn1972 wrote:

Sam_12 wrote:

rachellynn1972 wrote:That is what UK and Europe is turning people to, if only you married because of residence card, but as for me, i will let it go, sometime relationship goes bad and in the future you can still be friends if no harm as been done.

i want to live with him but the thing is if some one doesnot want to live then what i can do.
he already applied for eea2 and he had residence card since 5 month.

Actually, if your marriage is lesser than 3yrs, then go for a divource as he is not ready to live with you, that is a sham marriage, in your divource note, let them know he manipulated you to get married for his own favour which you did not know, now that you know, you dont want anything to do with him, as he is not ready to live with you as husband and wife, make sure you say it was a marriage of convinience, UKBA can withdraw the residence card if they know it was a marriage of convinience and this can be prove by you as a withness.

in my statement of divorce i said about
what happend with out using any of these word and i told he just lived few days in hole year.
now i m waiting what he gonna answer.

I think it is quite vindictive to use the HO REPORT AVENUE at this point..

Firstly, it makes it look like you are out for revenge, and secondly, it will achieve you nothing. He has rights to stay, so long as you are living and exercising treaty rights in the UK.

I believe there is more than one way to skin a cat. You can destroy this chap without a single phone call to the HO. Provided of course he was the only that wronged you or played a fast one on you.

Get an annulment if you never had any relationship of a sexual nature since the marriage. In these circumstances, i believe an annulment will be most appropriate. If you dont meet the tough criteria, then a divorce could be obtained.

Once this has been achieved, he is finish. He will be the one coming to beg. By virtue of that his residency will be devoid of rights, and he would not be able to secure any rights in the UK. If he manages to con another european, to stay in UK, that application will be rejected or looked at adversly due to his record.

In these circumstances, you will have the last laugh.

If it is any consellation, you should count your blessings that this has happened sooner, rather than later. You strongly believe, you deserve better, than living with someone with no genuine love or affection for you. Thankfully, you have found him out sooner, rather than later, when things could potentially be more painful

Obie wrote:I think it is quite vindictive to use the HO REPORT AVENUE at this point..

Firstly, it makes it look like you are out for revenge, and secondly, it will achieve you nothing. He has rights to stay, so long as you are living and exercising treaty rights in the UK.

Obie I don't agree with your point here. Asfar as I know and i say I may be wrong, if this is a sham marrige and if Sam tells HO about this then HO will certainly take action against this chap. No matter if Sam is exercising her rights if she complaints about this the chap will be qustioned.

If she sends this details to immigration and they put it in their national system which is used in airports to scan the passports than he will definately be stopped on entery points and willb e quistioned and probably deported.

some people wrote they will let these things go. I want to ask you WHY????. If you loved some one and if he/she decives you and useyou then you don't let the things to go. I won't thats my opinion. I won't be doing things in jealousy but I will make sure my voice is heard in HO and i strongly belive in Karma but I can't just move my other cheek towards a person who has slapped on my other cheek...

Punjab wrote: Obie I don't agree with your point here. Asfar as I know and i say I may be wrong, if this is a sham marrige and if Sam tells HO about this then HO will certainly take action against this chap. No matter if Sam is exercising her rights if she complaints about this the chap will be qustioned.

If she sends this details to immigration and they put it in their national system which is used in airports to scan the passports than he will definately be stopped on entery points and willb e quistioned and probably deported.

With all due respect, you reserve the right to disagree with me, and i very much welcome disagreement and constructive criticism.

By definition, Sam's marriage cannot be described as a sham. For a marriage to fit that description, both parties would have known from the onset that the marriage is a fraud.

At best it could be describe as a marriage of convenience and at worst a marriage gone sour once residency is issued.

If she says the marriage was a sham from onset, that will implicate her, as it will be assumed she was aware of it.

From what i read, sam and her husband were living together in a legally recognised marriage for about 5 months after residency was issued. This is not a sham marriage by the most conservative of definition.

I am not trying to second-guess this guy, but he may say he had his reasons for behaving this way, or that the residency was not the reason he contracted the marriage. There is no way of reading someone's mind.

The system is different under national and community law. Had it been his residency was issued under national rules, he will stand no chance, but the situation is slightly different under community law.

Yes you are right, the HO can revoke a Residence Card if a marriage is sham, even if the EEA spouse he/she contracted it with is a qualified person. But in order for them to do this, they will first need substantive proof that this is the case, the person will have a right of appeal, and only if it is found by an immigration judge that the marriage was indeed sham, will the resident card be withdrawn. If it is found that they were married, that they lived as man and wife, and that the mnarriage was legally contracted and both parties were free to married at the time, the court will have no option but to rule that the spouse is covered until such a time as the decree absolute is issued in accordance with Diatta ECJ ruling.

That is my take to the best of my ability and understanding.

To add to obie's comment, even the decree absolute based on what has been written so far, the guy can refuse to divorce... and also its also not possible to predict their relationship, if there were having sex.. all these things are relevant to a divorce process... my sister wanted to divorce her husband took then 3 and half years to prove to that they weren't having sex...

i will advise the op to either work things out with her husband, if it is clear he is not interested, then she should reside alone, get a solicitor and start the divorce proceedings, she won't get any accurate advise on here because no one has her whole file to no what exactly is going.

So Sam, i understand you might be feeling used, but everything is about Process... so get a Family solicitor rather than an immigration solicotor... wish you goodluck.

Thanks Obie.

I saw that If you can prove that you have no sexual relation with your partner once you are been separated you have upper hand.

But at the end of the day its always better to tell HO that you are no longer staying together with this guy and you have nothing to do with him as he deccieved you

but don't feel that you lost the war.. always fight...

Punjab, i understand where you are coming from, the home office has nothing to do with ones marital problem, and that is why the OP got the response she got when she rang the HO, what the OP need to do is convience the court that her marriage have broken down, and as soon as a decree absolute is obtain, then the HO gets involved until then nothing can be done, even though he ring, write and visit the home office! there are laws they have to follow...

If they had applied based on unmarried partners, then all she could have done is write a formal letter and evidence where applicable explaining the break down of relationship, and that she doesn't wish to continue the relationship. But it terms of marriage not HO business!

leonex4t5 wrote:Punjab, i understand where you are coming from, the home office has nothing to do with ones marital problem, and that is why the OP got the response she got when she rang the HO, what the OP need to do is convience the court that her marriage have broken down, and as soon as a decree absolute is obtain, then the HO gets involved until then nothing can be done, even though he ring, write and visit the home office! there are laws they have to follow...

Hi Leone thanks for this info.

thanks for every one