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Can you travel to another EU country with a UK Family Permit

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:31 pm
by toabetterchange
Let's say we want to visit my EEA partner's family just for a weekend or just go for a weekend holiday and come back to the UK, could I travel with my partner with the family permit issued for 6 months?

What about if we want to visit the family within the initial 3 months that the UK granted is still ok or Im not allowed to move within those 3/6 months from the UK?

Or we will have to wait until I got the residence card?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:44 pm
by alekos
See here. http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2010/08 ... to-travel/

Brother in Law has travelled to Poland with his wife with a Family Permit. He did have to get a visa at the Consulate in London first. That was 2009 ish.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:52 pm
by toabetterchange
alekos wrote:See here. http://eumovement.wordpress.com/2010/08 ... to-travel/

Brother in Law has travelled to Poland with his wife with a Family Permit. He did have to get a visa at the Consulate in London first. That was 2009 ish.
Would I need the schengen visa then to travel there?

But my question again, Could I leave for that weekend(s) the UK within the 3 or 6 months and return or I cannot move from there?

Thanks...

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:02 pm
by alekos
Travel is easier with a visa and/or a Residence Card. Often times you won't only be dealing with Migration officers, but airline staff, coach drivers even..
To quote a famous contributor "you want a guarantee, get a visa".

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:08 pm
by toabetterchange
alekos wrote:Travel is easier with a visa and/or a Residence Card. Often times you won't only be dealing with Migration officers, but airline staff, coach drivers even..
To quote a famous contributor "you want a guarantee, get a visa".
I understand and accept that I need a visa to travel but

Could I leave for that weekend(s) the UK within the 3 or 6 months and return or I cannot move from there?

:roll:

Thanks once again.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:28 pm
by alekos
The Family Permit is multiple entrance.

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:35 pm
by toabetterchange
alekos wrote:The Family Permit is multiple entrance.
Ok. Thanks.

What about if I get the schengen visa and want to travel to (Spain) to visit my family, do I need to travel always with my partner? What about if he cannot go that time(busy, work, study,etc)?

Would I have any problem returning to the UK without my EEA partner? :?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:36 pm
by Jambo
As long as your partner is exercising treaty rights in the UK, you can re-enter the UK (with or without him).

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:40 pm
by toabetterchange
Jambo wrote:As long as your partner is exercising treaty rights in the UK, you can re-enter the UK (with or without him).
So it means that in the initial three months when she/he is not exercising Treaty Rights I/We cannot travel ? :cry:

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:47 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
For the initial 3 months, your partner is not required to work in the UK.

You can travel on your own, but will most definitely require a visa (unless traveling to places like Israel or Singapore).

You can travel with your EU partner to Europe. In general you will require a visa. There is one country that will let you in visa free with just an EEA FP, but it is always best to travel with your partner.

I would generally NOT travel without a visa in your situation. Your partnership is recognized in the UK, but I am not at all certain about other EU countries. Once you have a UK issued Residence Card you are on far more firm ground.

And please do not make the mistake of assuming that a visa to Spain is hassle free. There are so many stories of bad things being done at the Spanish embassy, and they especially do not like Colombians. Do yourself a favour and get a German visa, visit Germany for a weekend on Ryanair, and then fly to Spain.

You may also want to go slowly. Get to the UK and get used to it first. Get jobs. Get a Residence Card. And then go gallivanting around Europe...

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:10 pm
by toabetterchange
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:For the initial 3 months, your partner is not required to work in the UK.

You can travel on your own, but will most definitely require a visa (unless traveling to places like Israel or Singapore).

You can travel with your EU partner to Europe. In general you will require a visa. There is one country that will let you in visa free with just an EEA FP, but it is always best to travel with your partner.

I would generally NOT travel without a visa in your situation. Your partnership is recognized in the UK, but I am not at all certain about other EU countries. Once you have a UK issued Residence Card you are on far more firm ground.

And please do not make the mistake of assuming that a visa to Spain is hassle free. There are so many stories of bad things being done at the Spanish embassy, and they especially do not like Colombians. Do yourself a favour and get a German visa, visit Germany for a weekend on Ryanair, and then fly to Spain.

You may also want to go slowly. Get to the UK and get used to it first. Get jobs. Get a Residence Card. And then go gallivanting around Europe...
Thank you for such excellent advice!

This is the answer from the European Commission regarding the recognition of registered relationships in Australia:

In the event that the UK does recognise your registered partnership, your partner should have an automatic right to live with you in the UK for as long as you work or study there or have sufficient resources to enable you to live in the UK without being an unreasonable burden on the social security system of that country and have adequate health cover in place.

In the event that the UK does not recognise your registered partnership, he can still apply to reside with you, on the basis of being in “a durable relationship, duly attestedâ€

check this link for visa status

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:32 pm
by Punjab

Re: check this link for visa status

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:46 pm
by toabetterchange

Re: check this link for visa status

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:51 pm
by Punjab
What do you mean?[/quote]

this shows if you need a visa or not. you can put your nationality citizenship and country you are visiting so it tells you if or if not u need a visa and conditions. give it a try..

Re: check this link for visa status

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:05 pm
by toabetterchange
I guess I need visa everywhere I want to go! :shock:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:07 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
Except Sinapore, Israel, Egypt, ...

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:13 pm
by toabetterchange
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Except Sinapore, Israel, Egypt, ...
Singapore? at least I can visit a friend there... 8)

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:25 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
toabetterchange wrote:
Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:Except Sinapore, Israel, Egypt, ...
Singapore? at least I can visit a friend there... 8)
Please check to confirm and do not take my word for it. But I am 99.9% sure

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:16 pm
by Directive/2004/38/EC
This is a nice map overview for Colombians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requi ... n_citizens

Of course I would strongly recommend checking this information before booking a ticket to anywhere!