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how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:05 pm

I am a postman, working 39 hours per week. wage slip states that the 'basic pay' £417 and "Delivery Supplement" £21.21. these two are the permanent fixtures of my weekly wage slip. But I really need to know whether I am salaried employee or non-salaried?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Wanderer » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:04 am

Salaried.
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:22 am

Thanks for your kind reply. Could you elaborate how to establish what is salaried employment? the formula etc? thanks

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:23 am

I do perform loads of over-time and my over-time payment on hourly rate basis? over-time payments do make my gorss variable a lot? do I still classed as salaried employee?
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Wanderer » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:24 am

A wage, holiday pay, etc, further test is tax and NI deducted and paid to HMRC..
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:28 am

I really don't understand the formula. I will try to get in touch with HR to find out whether I am salaried employee or not. I thought that we get paid on hourly rate basis, being postman. not sure though.

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Amber » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:29 am

A non-salaried employee would be paid as per work. A salaried employee would have a set wage and may then work overtime.
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:31 am

can you please give some examples of non salaried employment using the above mentioned formula?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:40 am

Amber, I was thinking that I m a non salaried employee. I have earned more than £1550 in last 6 months with exception of the month of April when I was on unpaid leave for 2 weeks. these leave has caused my wages to be less than £1550. does it mean that I won't be able to apply using Category A? If I take the average earning of past 6 months I earning above the threshold require. I don't know what is correct?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Amber » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:49 am

How much have you actually earned exactly, in the last 12 months, gross? What is your annual salary?
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:46 am

last fiscal year I have earned £18,334 in total. But my Weekly Gross earning was £372.21+21.10 which was increased increased in April to £417.70+22.20. The reason I earned less in last fiscal year is because I was on half pay for 4 months due to sick leave. I was hoping to show last six month evidences for being in non-salaried employment. I have earned more than 11K in last month by performing loads of overtime. Also I have pay arrears paid to me in February due to pay increased £457 in total. Amber Can you give me some pointers please?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Amber » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:36 pm

Once your actual earnings in the last 12 months equals or exceeds the Financial requirement you can apply under Cat B so far as your current annual salary as per employers' letter equals or exceeds the Financial requirement. In such instance you would no longer have to reply on the earnings being non-salaried.
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:37 pm

Amber,
thanks for your kind reply. please find below my aggregate earning for the last 6 months
November: 2545.51 (plenty of over-time)
December: 2213.17 (plenty of over-time)
January: 2570.15 (plenty of over-time)
February: 2116.64 (received Arrears of basic pay due to back dated pay increase)
March: 1622.12
April: 928.67 (In this month I have not been paid for 1 full week and 4 days due to unpaid special leave whilst I was in Pakistan Week)
Total for the last 6 months: 11996.26
I am inclined to think that I should apply in CAT A by providing last 6 months evidences?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by SoHopeful » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:46 am

If you are paid a set amount each month + overtime, I do think that will be considered as salaried. Therefore, you would not qualify under Cat due to April's salary, because it was less than £1550.

I think you will have to go with Cat B.

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:18 pm

One of the Senior moderator of the other forum has given me below mentioned pointer . he recommended that Category A would be applicable. More thoughts on this are immensely appreciated?

"you are what I'd call salaried employee with supplementary income, such as allowances, overtime etc. The way to work out your income is to add your basic pay over 6 months and annualise (double) it, and then add separately your allowances and overtime and average it out (divide by six and multiply by twelve), the total of the two amounts is your yearly income, which you can submit in evidence. You must attach this computation (calculation) to your application <e.g. Appendix 2 or FLR(M)> to show how you are meeting the requirement. There are a lot of people in your situation"
All overtime in salaried employment will be calculated based on the approach to income from non-salaried employment.This will be an annualised 6-month average for the overtime which will be added to the level of the gross annual salary.
FM1.7 Section 5.5.6."

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:19 pm

Amber,

Would you shed more light on the below mentioned pointer pleas?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Amber » Thu Apr 24, 2014 3:22 pm

So far as the UKVI share that person's opinion. Moreover, have you worked out your income to see whether you satisfy the financial requirement for Cat A. The salary component calculated as, lowest salary wage in last 6 months * 12, plus the overtime, which would be the total overtime in last 6 months divided by 6 * 12?

I never stated you couldn't apply under Cat A. I merely stated that it may be easier (and more certain) to apply under Cat B.
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:01 pm

I don't really know how to calculate as my wage slips are so confusing and complicated. I was getting paid up till 14 February 2014 weekly basic pay of £372.10 + Delivery Supplement £21.62 per week. Then from 21 February 2014 I received weekly basic pay of £383.26 + £22.27 Delivery Supplement per week up till 04 April 2014. Then again From 11 April 2014 I have started to receive 394.76+22.94 in the new fiscal year.
Delivery supplement is part of my basic pay and hence the permanent fixture of my weekly pay slip. Would I include this supplement in my basic gross calculation for the year? and Amber how to calculate the basic wage? I didn't get the formula?
furthermore, I have received pay slips for the weeks when I was on unpaid special. Slips states the 'Basic pay + Delivery supplement: £383.26+22.27' then the amount deducted with the heading 'arrears of basic pay' and 'arrears of delivery supplement'. total gross is £0.00. But on that particular week I have received £36.50 net pay.
I am totally confused how to calculate. I am reluctant to go on the Category B route as my total salary for the whole fiscal year is £18,334 it is because I was on half pay for four months due to sick leave (May to August last year).

I don't know how to solve that puzzle. any feedback would be appreciated.

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:47 pm

Amber,

Am I using the April gross salary (lowest £882.79) Multiply by 12 + the overtime,allowances?
Or Am I adding the gross salary of last 6 months (gross pay of 26 weeks) multiply by 2 = annualised gross salary and then calculation of OT and allowance?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Amber » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:04 pm

If you use £882.79 for the salaried income then with the overtime, add it all together (in the last 6 months) and divide by 6, add them both together and multiplied by 12, does that meet the Financial Requirement? If so, you should be ok with Cat A.
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Re: how to establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:18 am

Even the below mentioned scenarios look similar to mine. Weekly wages are being considered non-salaried employment. in the below mentioned example the applicant is receiving fixed wage of £495 and £450 whereas my weekly wages immensely fluctuate. I am totally confused about how to establish the status of my non-salaried employment.
"Example (c)

The applicant‟s partner is in non-salaried employment in the UK. He works on a weekly rota
basis and does not receive any paid holidays. He has earned £450 each week in the same
job for the last 7 calendar months, except for the week prior to the date of application when
he earned £150 owing to a holiday.

Non-salaried income = (gross earnings from employment held throughout the 6 month
period, divided by 6) x 12
= ((25 weeks x 450 + 1 week x 150) ÷ 6) x 12
= (11,400 ÷ 6) x 12
= £22,800


So the financial requirement is met through Category A non-salaried employment."

Example (c)

The applicant‟s partner currently works in Japan and is returning with the applicant to the
UK to work. She has been working for the same employer for 2 years in Japan and earns a
weekly wage. She has earned £495 each week for the last year.

Current non-salaried income = (gross earnings from employment held throughout the 6
month period, divided by 6) x 12
= ((26 weeks x 495) ÷ 6) x 12
= (12,870 ÷ 6) x 12
= £25,740

So the financial requirement is met through Category A non-salaried employment."

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:50 pm

Amber, Can you shed some light into this please?

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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by Amber » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:54 pm

You'd be ok either way, so not sure anyone can say anything else.
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Re: how establish what is salaried job

Post by mooty » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:38 pm

Hello Wanderer,

Can you please look into this? thanks

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