Appendix 2 VAF4 form - Permanent and self-employed !!!!

[tripas33]

Hello Friends,
I need to fill Appendix 2 form for my wife's settlement visa. She will be applying next week from India.
I am in mid of confusion with regards to section 3.3 , that is for meeting the financial requirement.

I am presently permanently employed. I joined the new job in September has don't have last 6 months salary slips to prove the financial requirement using the current job. Although I have the employment letter and offer letter mentioning my designation and the salary which exceeds the spouse visa requirement.
Before permanent employment , I was contracting through my own limited company. The company is still active. I have a P45 form with last day as 31st August 2015 which submitted for my new job. I have last 12 month payslips , bank statements, dividend vouchers, p60 form ,company account report and letter from my accountant. My accountant says techincally I am still self-employed as my company is active. I am confused which section to fulfill for the application.

Should it be Section Part 3A ( Category A and B) ?
or Section Part 3C ( category F alone ) ?

Thanks for the guidance.

[tripas33]

Hello Friends,
I need to fill Appendix 2 form for my wife's settlement visa. She will be applying next week from India.
I am in mid of confusion with regards to section 3.3 , that is for meeting the financial requirement.

I am presently permanently employed. I joined the new job in September has don't have last 6 months salary slips to prove the financial requirement using the current job. Although I have the employment letter and offer letter mentioning my designation and the salary which exceeds the spouse visa requirement.
Before permanent employment , I was contracting through my own limited company. The company is still active. I have a P45 form with last day as 31st August 2015 which submitted for my new job. I have last 12 month payslips , bank statements, dividend vouchers, p60 form ,company account report and letter from my accountant. My accountant says techincally I am still self-employed as my company is active. I am confused which section to fulfill for the application.

Should it be Section Part 3A ( Category A and B) ?
or Section Part 3C ( category F alone ) ?

Thanks for the guidance.

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Can senior members please help ?

Thanks.

[shakoorh]

I'm by no means an expert or senior member, but I know how it feels when you are asking for help and nobody wants to step forward to even offer a solution. So here it goes. It's a little confusing, but it looks like you can only apply under Category F or G.

Please read through section 9 in the following two documents:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... t_2015.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _FM_SE.pdf

You should be able to figure out what you need to provide/if you're application will be successful. I think you fit in to 9.7 of the first document, but you might have an issue with the following in section 9 of the second document:

(e) For the purposes of paragraph 19(a), evidence of ongoing employment as a director of the company or of ongoing receipt of dividend income from the company must be provided. This evidence may include payslips (or dividend vouchers) and personal bank statements showing that, in the period since the latest 12-month period covered by the Company Tax Return CT600, the person’s salary as a director of the company (or dividend income from the company) was paid into an account in the name of the person
or in the name of the person and their partner jointly. Alternative evidence may include evidence of ongoing payment of business rates, business-related insurance premiums or employer National Insurance contributions in relation to the company.

So basically you have to show you've earned £18,600 in April 2014-April 2015, AND you have to show that you have still been paid by that company until now. As long as your last dividend payment/salary is in the last 28 days before application, it might work for you.

[tripas33]

I'm by no means an expert or senior member, but I know how it feels when you are asking for help and nobody wants to step forward to even offer a solution. So here it goes. It's a little confusing, but it looks like you can only apply under Category F or G.

Please read through section 9 in the following two documents:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... t_2015.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _FM_SE.pdf

You should be able to figure out what you need to provide/if you're application will be successful. I think you fit in to 9.7 of the first document, but you might have an issue with the following in section 9 of the second document:

(e) For the purposes of paragraph 19(a), evidence of ongoing employment as a director of the company or of ongoing receipt of dividend income from the company must be provided. This evidence may include payslips (or dividend vouchers) and personal bank statements showing that, in the period since the latest 12-month period covered by the Company Tax Return CT600, the person’s salary as a director of the company (or dividend income from the company) was paid into an account in the name of the person
or in the name of the person and their partner jointly. Alternative evidence may include evidence of ongoing payment of business rates, business-related insurance premiums or employer National Insurance contributions in relation to the company.

So basically you have to show you've earned £18,600 in April 2014-April 2015, AND you have to show that you have still been paid by that company until now. As long as your last dividend payment/salary is in the last 28 days before application, it might work for you.

Thanks Sharookh,

Appreciate your help.

I am thinking , If I don't mention my current employment which is my permanent employment , will it not be hiding of facts with UKBA ? My new employer has my NI number although I am yet to receive first salary from the new job but I think ,it will not be correct to Not to tell them about my new permanent job.
My accountant also provided me with P45 form , which you get when you leave an employment and are to join a new job. It has my last date with my limited company as 31st August and my joining date for new job as 2nd September.

At present I am of the view to use Category A and Category B to prove my financial eligibility.

Cat A - for my new Permanent job - which meet the financial eligibility as per the offer but is less than a month , so ..CAT B.
CAT B - for my last 12 months income from earlier job ( Director of limited company) which also fulfills the financial criteria.
I do have document for last 2 years for my limited company account which I can submit with my application.

But I don't have 100% confidence CAT A + CAT B is valid in my case !!

[shakoorh]

Category A and B are for salaried and nonsalaried employment (ie you are employed by someone but not getting paid fix rate). You can combine with Category F, and perhaps show current employment as over 18,600 gross per year but it would be a risk either way.

[tripas33]

Category A and B are for salaried and nonsalaried employment (ie you are employed by someone but not getting paid fix rate). You can combine with Category F, and perhaps show current employment as over 18,600 gross per year but it would be a risk either way.

Thanks Sharookh.

It think Dividends from self-employment ( as a director of limited company under para 9a) can be included but Not the salary. Do you have any information on this ?

[tripas33]

I'm by no means an expert or senior member, but I know how it feels when you are asking for help and nobody wants to step forward to even offer a solution. So here it goes. It's a little confusing, but it looks like you can only apply under Category F or G.

Please read through section 9 in the following two documents:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... t_2015.pdf

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _FM_SE.pdf

You should be able to figure out what you need to provide/if you're application will be successful. I think you fit in to 9.7 of the first document, but you might have an issue with the following in section 9 of the second document:

(e) For the purposes of paragraph 19(a), evidence of ongoing employment as a director of the company or of ongoing receipt of dividend income from the company must be provided. This evidence may include payslips (or dividend vouchers) and personal bank statements showing that, in the period since the latest 12-month period covered by the Company Tax Return CT600, the person’s salary as a director of the company (or dividend income from the company) was paid into an account in the name of the person
or in the name of the person and their partner jointly. Alternative evidence may include evidence of ongoing payment of business rates, business-related insurance premiums or employer National Insurance contributions in relation to the company.

So basically you have to show you've earned £18,600 in April 2014-April 2015, AND you have to show that you have still been paid by that company until now. As long as your last dividend payment/salary is in the last 28 days before application, it might work for you.

Hello Sharookh,

Why do you say dividend voucher should not be more than 28 days older ?? I dont see it anywhere in the guide for the director of a limited company.

Thxs
tripas

[shakoorh]

That's a general requirement for the financial documents. If you can't find it in the director of company then maybe you don't require it. I don’t want to give you incorrect info but will have a look when I get a chance.