Visa denial.

[Aidanmccarthy]

Hi,
I'm back!
I have a friend from the US who was denied a visitors visa to the UK after being refused entry (the reason being that she said she was going to work, as well as not having enough funds and not having enough ties to the US.)

My question is, will she have any problem in applying for a visitors visa to another country and specifically China? We are planning on going there for a couple of months in October.

Kind regards

[sakura]

Hi,
I'm back!
I have a friend from the US who was denied a visitors visa to the UK after being refused entry (the reason being that she said she was going to work, as well as not having enough funds and not having enough ties to the US.)

My question is, will she have any problem in applying for a visitors visa to another country and specifically China? We are planning on going there for a couple of months in October.

Kind regards

On the application form, does it ask anything about whether or not you were refused a visa for another country? Some countries do ask these questions.

Anyway - I don't think it would affect her application for China, as long as she has evidence of returning after the trip.

[Aidanmccarthy]

The application form only asks if you have been refused entry to China or if you have been denied a visa for China but not anywhere else.

[sakura]

The application form only asks if you have been refused entry to China or if you have been denied a visa for China but not anywhere else.

As the popular Immigraitonbords.com saying goes, "don't volunteer information"! She should get the visa providing she meets the (financial) requirements and prooves she'll return home before the expiry of her visa. She definately doesn't need to mention her UK refusal; if they don't ask - don't tell!
Good luck!

[Aidanmccarthy]

Thanks for your help.

[Administrator]

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By the way --

IF and ONLY IF they should ask, for some reason, just make sure you have a VERY benign and plausible reason why her VISIT visa was turned down.

A simple mistake such as not having a return flight pre-booked because, perhaps, you were going on a short, flexible vacation without a defined schedule is one such possibility.

Since an immigration officer doesn't always tell you why entry is denied, sometimes you can only speculate as to why after the fact.

Just make sure that whatever benign reason you recall is not otherwise formally documented.

I trust we have learned our lesson about the function of a VISIT visa, and that said VISIT visas are very definitely not WORK PERMITS ,,?

the Admin

[Aidanmccarthy]

ok. what if the details are logged? I mean she was sent a letter stating the reasons, (there were a couple) will the Chinese immigration have access to that information?

[Administrator]

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Then stick with the real story, as documented.

The Chinese officials have access if they want to make the appropriate request(s) & investigate.

At this point, it doesn't seem they will ask, since it's not on the questionnaire.


If they do ask, be truthful. Study the details carefully and provide your explanation in the most simple & least incriminating way possible. Volunteer nothing.

Keep in mind, there was a mistake in her being open to the idea of seeking work (and answering to that effect) when asked if she intended to work, rather than actually having a job offer.

Most people who are visiting a country are very open to job opportunities if they crop up. If entering (any country) on a visit visa and planning to perform work, then you are in very clear violation of the concept, letter & intent of a visit visa. Make sure your explanation (if it's needed) makes it clear that no such plans were in place.

Well, unless of course she did have some specific plans/job offer and told immigration and they then wrote it up that way ... then she's a bit screwed and at the mercy of Chinese immigration & border control.

the Admin

[Aidanmccarthy]

Won't they see the stamp of refusal in her passport when applying for a visa and take that into consideration?

[Dawie]

ok. what if the details are logged? I mean she was sent a letter stating the reasons, (there were a couple) will the Chinese immigration have access to that information?

I sincerely doubt the UK authorities would allow the Chinese authorities anywhere near their immigration records.

In any case, obtaining a Chinese tourist visa is easy especially for a citizen of a rich country like the US. Why would a poor country like China care about your friend's immigration history?