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British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v wife

Post by joelondon » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:27 pm

Hi here is my story !!
My wife is a doctor.back home ... Before I met her she did apply for uk visitor visa and was granted ... As it was an arrange married we got married one month after her getting the visa , it was coincidence !
Now I am British citizen living in the UK ... My wife came to the UK with her visitor visa ... By the time she got pregnant, she overstayed her visa and now we have a newborn baby
We are wondering what to do next and what route fi we have to take to regularise her situation ... My babe is British citizen any help is much appreciated ... I am working and earn over 20k a year ... Back home she put her work position (doctor)on hold for 2 years unpaid ....if u need more information just ask if it helps you find a solution ... M thinking to go on the human right process !!
Please help
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Casa » Sun Oct 04, 2015 5:49 pm

The straightforward way would be for her to return to her home country and apply for a spouse visa to re-enter. An application made outside of the immigration rules is likely to be lengthy with no guarantee of success.
How did your wife pay for the medical services for the birth of your baby?
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by joelondon » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:09 pm

Hi , there is payment to be made what so ever ...we haven't been charged for anything !
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Casa » Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:26 pm

If your wife has used the NHS while on a visitor visa, this adds a significant complication to any future visa application. The reason I asked is due to the tightening of the Immigration Rules (Part 9), which now includes the following as a reason for refusal:
(22) where one or more relevant NHS body has notified the Secretary of State that the person seeking entry or leave to enter has failed to pay a charge or charges with a total value of at least £1000 in accordance with the relevant NHS regulations on charges to overseas visitors.

Your wife will be asked in any visa application whether she has used NHS services. As all Government departments share information, this will be easily cross-checked. Before you think of submitting any application (either for discretionary leave from within the UK) or for a spouse visa from your wife's home country, you should contact your GP and the hospital where your baby was born, confirm what fees are outstanding and then ensure they are cleared. Bear in mind that fees alone for a hospital birth are generally around £2,000.
A spouse visa application submitted outside of the UK can't be refused for an overstay alone (unlike most other visa categories), but it can be refused due to use of NHS facilities where payment remains outstanding.

What happened to the spouse settlement visa you were intending to submit in October 2013?
http://www.immigrationboards.com/immigr ... ml#p938951

Regarding an application made under Human Rights, this extract may be of interest regarding the 'Razgar Test' -
"It is worth remembering that a British partner or child is not enough to be granted leave to remain in the UK. The Home Office do have to show that they have considered the 'best interests' of the British child, but having a British child is not enough in itself to obtain leave to remain.
Sometimes, the Home Office will say the breach is proportionate (or even that there will not be a breach) because the British citizen or resident can go and live with the person being removed in their country, or they can keep in touch by Skype and email etc. Supporting evidence could be gathered to show why that would not work – why the person with status to be in the UK has to be here, or why the relationship wouldn't work over the internet or through occasional visits."
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Obie » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:07 pm

I think she may qualify to apply in the UK.


Just out of interest Casa , where did you get the extract you cited in your last post.
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Casa » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:22 pm

@Obie I've sent you a PM
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Petaltop » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:40 pm

Obie wrote:
Just out of interest Casa , where did you get the extract you cited in your last post.
Just cut and paste the quote into a search engine and it comes up with the site that the quote came from.

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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Obie » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:42 pm

Petaltop wrote:
Obie wrote:
Just out of interest Casa , where did you get the extract you cited in your last post.
Just cut and paste the quote into a search engine and it comes up with the site that the quote came from.
Thanks for your suggestion, don't think it will be necessary though.
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Casa » Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:54 pm

Obie wrote:
Petaltop wrote:
Obie wrote:
Just out of interest Casa , where did you get the extract you cited in your last post.
Just cut and paste the quote into a search engine and it comes up with the site that the quote came from.
Thanks for your suggestion, don't think it will be necessary though.
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Wanderer » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:14 am

joelondon wrote:Hi , there is payment to be made what so ever ...we haven't been charged for anything !

So far....
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by joelondon » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:50 am

Obie wrote:I think she may qualify to apply in the UK.


Just out of interest Casa , where did you get the extract you cited in your last post.


Obie what make you say this ... Can you give me some more details please thanks
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by joelondon » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:52 am

Casa

Well that was a long storie ... It didn't work out well with that one (wife)
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by Casa » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:43 pm

joelondon wrote:Casa

Well that was a long storie ... It didn't work out well with that one (wife)
I'm not sure what you mean :?:
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Re: British sponsor with newborn baby+ overstayed visitor v

Post by joelondon » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:54 pm

Hey casa what about flr (fp) 10 years route do we stand any chance ?
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Post by Casa » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:14 pm

Yes you do stand a chance, but I would still advise that you check whether there are any outstanding NHS charges before you submit the application.
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Post by joelondon » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:13 pm

Casa wrote:Yes you do stand a chance, but I would still advise that you check whether there are any outstanding NHS charges before you submit the application.

Hi casa can you guide as to what document do i need to supply with the form please thanks
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Post by Casa » Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:19 pm

joelondon wrote:
Casa wrote:Yes you do stand a chance, but I would still advise that you check whether there are any outstanding NHS charges before you submit the application.

Hi casa can you guide as to what document do i need to supply with the form please thanks
Official Guidance - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... t_2015.pdf

and FLR(FP) application form with check list for documents on the final pages.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _04-15.pdf
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Flr fp or flr m please advise

Post by joelondon » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:43 pm

Hi moderators, obie and dear members and guests

I need your help to guide me choosing the form to apply for my wife for her flr fp or flr m !
I am British citizen and my wife is non-eu citizen .. She came here with a visitor visa... Within her stay she got pregnant and overstayed her visa ... She came on September 2014 .
Now we have a newborn baby daughter she is 1 month old and British citizen as I applied for her passport ..
My wife passed the English test back home before she came as we thought we will be applying for her spouse visa from home ! Unfortunately it wasn't the case.
My wife is a doctor and we are sending her degree to uk naric to have the comparability !
I m the husband and we have been married for 15months ...
Now. My question is do I have to use the flr m form or flr fp based on our bristish child ?

If after using the flr fp 10 years route can I change it to 5 year route after the first 30 month ! ?

I was a self employed for the last 3 years but now m starting a job that pays 19k ! M a bit confused if we go for the 10years or the 5 years route?
Can I apply now or I need to wait ?
The document that m willing to send are :

Wife:
- marriage certificate with English translation
- gp registration letter for my wife
-her passport
- broadband and landline utility bills
-Uk NARIC comparability certificate (doctor)
- Gp letters
-British council cambridge English certificate
-confirmation of entry and time table for the test
-statement of result

Daughter :

-British passport
-original birth certificate
-Gp registration letter

Husband:

-British passport
-driving licence + counterpart
-payslips
-self-employed accountancy letter
-bank statement
-tenancy agreement
-Gp registration letter
-council tax bill
- child benefit letter on my name only
-electricity and gas bill on my name
- Electoral role registration letter
-ihs surcharge fee for the first 2and half years
-Proof of registration with HMRC as self-employed.
Unique Tax Reference Number (UTR)
-Evidence of ongoing self-employment through evidence of payment of Class 2 National

Please do let me know if I need to added more Document !
Hope to her an answer guys and thank you for your time !
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Re: Flr fp or flr m please advise

Post by CR001 » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:26 pm

Unlikely an FLR(M) application will be successful.

The thing you need to address as the forms all ask for this detail is, has you paid your wife's maternity bill with the NHS as she was not entitle to free NHS. You were asked about this in your other thread (and where I will move this one to).

http://www.immigrationboards.com/immigr ... l#p1260703
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Re: Flr fp or flr m please advise

Post by joelondon » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:35 pm

Yes we did so whats next if you can help ?
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