Advice on filling form AN for naturalisation

[punsin]

Evening Forum,

I need to ask a question which is not clarified under guidance and booklet.

BRP Enrolment section;
6.5 Place of issue
I applied in person at Croydon UKBA office. But I cant say where BRP was issued. BRP does not state town/city of issue. How best to answer? Shall I just say UK?

Thanks
PS

[CR001]

Evening Forum,

I need to ask a question which is not clarified under guidance and booklet.

BRP Enrolment section;
6.5 Place of issue
I applied in person at Croydon UKBA office. But I cant say where BRP was issued. BRP does not state town/city of issue. How best to answer? Shall I just say UK?

Thanks
PS

Write 'Home Office London'.

[punsin]

Thanks CR001!

[Basid]

Hello everyone,

I have two questions regarding naturalisation process.

I have been living in the UK for 11 years (10 years with various student visas and 1 year with ILR). So, which application form do I need to complete? Form AN?

On the gov website it says that there are two ways you can get naturalised in the UK: first one is through marriage and the second one is 5 years residency. So, in my case do I fall under 5 years residency category?

In terms of fees I need to pay for naturalisation (1282 pounds), not for registration fees (just making sure I m doing a correct thing).

Also, do I need to do biometric enrollment (fingers and face)? I have done it before for my the ILR.

Please could someone help me?

Dmitry

[punsin]

Hello everyone,

I have two questions regarding naturalisation process.

I have been living in the UK for 11 years (10 years with various student visas and 1 year with ILR). So, which application form do I need to complete? Form AN?
Form AN, Yes.

On the gov website it says that there are two ways you can get naturalised in the UK: first one is through marriage and the second one is 5 years residency. So, in my case do I fall under 5 years residency category?
Yes, obviously, 5 Years Residency.

In terms of fees I need to pay for naturalisation (1282 pounds), not for registration fees (just making sure I m doing a correct thing).
1282 for naturalisation.

Also, do I need to do biometric enrollment (fingers and face)? I have done it before for my the ILR.
Yes, you will have to go through biometrics again. Fee is covered in the naturalisation fee as above.

Please could someone help me?

Dmitry

[CR001]

Also, do I need to do biometric enrollment (fingers and face)? I have done it before for my the ILR.
Yes, you will have to go through biometrics again. Fee is covered in the naturalisation fee as above.

@punsin - kindly refrain from giving incorrect advice. The biometric fee is NOT included in the naturalisation fee, it is a separate fee payable to the Post Office.

[punsin]

Also, do I need to do biometric enrollment (fingers and face)? I have done it before for my the ILR.
Yes, you will have to go through biometrics again. Fee is covered in the naturalisation fee as above.

@punsin - kindly refrain from giving incorrect advice. The biometric fee is NOT included in the naturalisation fee, it is a separate fee payable to the Post Office.

My Bad!

[Uzdu]

Hi all,

This may be a really stupid question by I'm slightly confused as to why on the Timeline forums there are people are stating the date they applied for a passport, which is always the same date as they sent of the application?

I didn't see any reference within the AN application to tick for a passport as part of the naturalisation process.

I put down the fee of £1,282 which is stated in the fee guide.

How I done something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

[Tea_Rocket]

Hi all,

This may be a really stupid question by I'm slightly confused as to why on the Timeline forums there are people are stating the date they applied for a passport, which is always the same date as they sent of the application?

I didn't see any reference within the AN application to tick for a passport as part of the naturalisation process.

I put down the fee of £1,282 which is stated in the fee guide.

How I done something wrong?

Thanks in advance!

Some nationality checking services (NCS) have a Joint Citizenship and Passport (JCAP) service that allow you to submit a passport application along with your AN form. If you are applying by post, this won't be available to you. There's nothing to tick on the AN form, it's simply submitting both applications together.

If you are applying through an NCS, it's worth asking if they do JCAP. Not all of them do (for instance, the one I used didn't).

[Uzdu]

Hi Tea_rocket, thank you for your fast reply.

I had no idea there was a Joint Citizenship and Passport application, so I only sent of my Natrualisation (AN) application. Is this an issue and can I apply for the joint citizenship/passport once I'm naturalised?

When I went onto the Dual Nationality page on Gov.uk it stated 'To get British citizenship in the UK, apply for citizenship in the normal way.' - which was the AN application. Now I think I've done it all wrong.

[Tea_Rocket]

I had no idea there was a Joint Citizenship and Passport application, so I only sent of my Natrualisation (AN) application. Is this an issue and can I apply for the joint citizenship/passport once I'm naturalised?

It sounds like you applied by post. If so, then applying for a passport at the same time was not an option for you. You can only apply for a passport with your naturalisation application if you apply through a Nationality Checking Service that offers a JCAP option. Once you're naturalised, you'll have UK citizenship, so your question doesn't really make sense—you can't apply jointly for citizenship and a passport if you already have citizenship.

At some point after you've done your citizenship ceremony, you'll need to apply for your first adult UK passport. You can pick the necessary forms up from the post office (and for a fee, have them check your application for you).

When I went onto the Dual Nationality page on Gov.uk it stated 'To get British citizenship in the UK, apply for citizenship in the normal way.' - which was the AN application. Now I think I've done it all wrong.

Not applying for a passport with your naturalisation is not doing anything wrong. As I said, if you've applied by post or applied through an NCS that doesn't offer it, then JCAP wasn't an option for you.

[Basid]

Hello everyone,

I have two questions regarding naturalisation process.

I have been living in the UK for 11 years (10 years with various student visas and 1 year with ILR). So, which application form do I need to complete? Form AN?

On the gov website it says that there are two ways you can get naturalised in the UK: first one is through marriage and the second one is 5 years residency. So, in my case do I fall under 5 years residency category?

In terms of fees I need to pay for naturalisation (1282 pounds), not for registration fees (just making sure I m doing a correct thing).

Also, do I need to do biometric enrollment (fingers and face)? I have done it before for my the ILR.

Please could someone help me?

Dmitry

Can someone help me please?

[Tea_Rocket]

Can someone help me please?

punsin already did, though s/he made a mistake and CR001 corrected it.

Yes, form AN is the one you want. Unless you are married to a UK citizen, then you will be applying under the five years residence category. You'll pay the £1282 fee when you apply. A few weeks after you submit your application, you will receive a letter requesting that you submit your biometrics. You will have to go to a post office that offers this service and submit your photo, fingerprints, and signature, as you did with your ILR application. You will pay a separate fee of about £25 when you do this.

When you apply for a UK passport (be it through JCAP or after you've naturalised), you'll have to pay a separate fee for that, as well.

[softy monster]

Can someone help me please?

punsin already did, though s/he made a mistake and CR001 corrected it.

Yes, form AN is the one you want. Unless you are married to a UK citizen, then you will be applying under the five years residence category. You'll pay the £1282 fee when you apply. A few weeks after you submit your application, you will receive a letter requesting that you submit your biometrics.

You will have to go to a post office that offers this service and submit your photo, fingerprints, and signature, as you did with your ILR application. You will pay a separate fee of about £25 when you do this.

When you apply for a UK passport (be it through JCAP or after you've naturalised), you'll have to pay a separate fee for that, as well.

It's £19.20

[Tea_Rocket]

It's £19.20

So it is (just looked at my receipt). I couldn't remember how much it was, but knew it wasn't more than £25, and figured it was better to say it was more than to say it was less.

[orangesky]

Hi All,

I would like to ask for clarification regarding the form AN. I am a self employed EEA citizen.

Questions:

1.17 Please provide your addresses for the past five years
- I have lived at my current address for more than 5 years and have filled in 1.16 (present address with from date) accordingly. Do I therefore leave 1.17 blank, or repeat what I have written in 1.16?

1.49 Address of tax office or tax office reference
- I'm self employed. Do I leave this blank, write my UTR number or something else?

1.50 Employment history
- Do times when I was a university student need to be included?

Supporting Documents:
Section 3 Evidence of lawful residence during the 5 years. Your passport or letters from employers, educational establishments or other Government Departments indicating presence in UK.

- I'm uncertain what to provide here. Is my Permanent Residence card and passport sufficient? As self-employed, I can also include self assessment forms for all years in addition to the most recent Self Assessment Statement of Account that I already provide as Section 7 evidence. Should I do this? What else should I provide as evidence for section 3?

Thank you for your time.

[alterhase58]

1.17 Please provide your addresses for the past five years
- I have lived at my current address for more than 5 years and have filled in 1.16 (present address with from date) accordingly. Do I therefore leave 1.17 blank, or repeat what I have written in 1.16? Leave Blank.

1.49 Address of tax office or tax office reference
- I'm self employed. Do I leave this blank, write my UTR number or something else?
Tax Reference from correspondence, or UTR if that's what identifies you for tax purposes.
1.50 Employment history
- Do times when I was a university student need to be included?
Uni is not employment but if there is a gap in employment due to study, explain gap in the free-form information section.
Supporting Documents:
Section 3 Evidence of lawful residence during the 5 years. Your passport or letters from employers, educational establishments or other Government Departments indicating presence in UK.

- I'm uncertain what to provide here. Is my Permanent Residence card and passport sufficient? As self-employed, I can also include self assessment forms for all years in addition to the most recent Self Assessment Statement of Account that I already provide as Section 7 evidence. Should I do this? What else should I provide as evidence for section 3?
Yes that should be sufficient, employed people normally provide P60 or letter from employer.

[orangesky]

Thank you alterhase58. Regarding your last response: Did you mean that my Permanent Residence card and passport are sufficient or that these documents + self assessment forms for all years are sufficient?

[alterhase58]

Thank you alterhase58. Regarding your last response: Did you mean that my Permanent Residence card and passport are sufficient or that these documents + self assessment forms for all years are sufficient?

Passport/PR Card and SA forms required.

[orangesky]

Thank you again and have a great week.

[D3lboy]

Hello everyone
I've looked throughout the forum and googled it, but could not find anything related to my question.
I've received the letter for biometrics from HO, so today I went to post office to do photo and fingerprints.
So, I've done the 4 fingers on right hand-all ok.
But the right thumb failed- 3 times, and the post office operator said he can't go back in the menu.
Then I've done the left 4 fingers-all fine, also left thumb ok as well.
At the end the person at post office said it shouldn't be a problem, gave me receipt and off my went.
But I'm not sure about it, should I be worried? Is there anything I can do-e.g. call HO?

[softy monster]

Hello everyone
I've looked throughout the forum and googled it, but could not find anything related to my question.
I've received the letter for biometrics from HO, so today I went to post office to do photo and fingerprints.
So, I've done the 4 fingers on right hand-all ok.
But the right thumb failed- 3 times, and the post office operator said he can't go back in the menu.
Then I've done the left 4 fingers-all fine, also left thumb ok as well.
At the end the person at post office said it shouldn't be a problem, gave me receipt and off my went.
But I'm not sure about it, should I be worried? Is there anything I can do-e.g. call HO?

Hi there,
if there will be a problem, HO will send you another letter asking you to re-do it again simple is that! Also make sure you are around the next few weeks just in case they come back to you about!

[skay7777]

Hello guys,

Hope y'all well. I'm filling out Form AN too and have a few questions please:

1. I am on a career break at the moment trying to set up a business. I am the director of a company that hasn't started trading yet. What should I put my employment status as and what proof should I submit with application? I left my job a few months ago.

2. Can my girlfriend whom I live with be one of my referees?

3. For the question 'First date of entering the UK with a view to live long term?' Would that be when I came as a student or started working with tier 2 visa?'' I entered the UK 9 years ago as a student, studied for 3 years and then obtained a tier 2 visa and started working.

I would be very grateful if someone can help me with these questions.

[D3lboy]

Hi softy
Thank for your reply, if that's the process then, it sounds great.
The reason I am worried about is that they would refuse the application and I have to pay again for it and the NCS service (which I've used), and will delay the process much farther.
I don't mean to mistrust you, but is there anyone else that can confirm(maybe Noajthan).
Many thanks again

[CR001]

Hi softy
Thank for your reply, if that's the process then, it sounds great.
The reason I am worried about is that they would refuse the application and I have to pay again for it and the NCS service (which I've used), and will delay the process much farther.
I don't mean to mistrust you, but is there anyone else that can confirm(maybe Noajthan).
Many thanks again

It should be a problem. Not many people have these issues so not sure why you think anyone else might be able to confirm.

P.S. Noajthan has not been active on the forum for a number of months.