Current job less than 6 months

[hillam]

Please advise me as i don't know who else to ask.
Two years ago I was granted 2.5yrs on 10yrs partner route.I have searched the forum and as I understand i can switch to 5yrs so long as i met financial threshold.
Little bit background.i was granted 2.5ys outside immigration rules,my partner is British national and im from Zambia,We been together for 5rs but not married yet.We got little girl 3yrs old.my visa run out in May next year.
I work on a construction site on self employed basis and i would like to switch to 5yrs route rather than keep extending every 2.yrs. I have been on job for 1yr to date.started July 2018.
Does any one knows if i can switch now bearing in mind i will have full year self assessment.or do i have to wait till the end of tax year 2020 before i can switch?
Thanks guys

[zimba]

If between April 2018-19 you made more than £18,600 and you already filed your self assessment, then you can apply now

[hillam]

I started work in July last year(2018) so prior to that i was not working.July this year (2019) is I year and i thought i could do self assessment for last year which in my case will be July -July as that's when i started working.Is is mandatory you have to wait till the end of tax year to do tax return.can i not do it now as i have already completed 1 year being self employed and do the switch application?

Thanks guys

[seagul]

I started work in July last year(2018) so prior to that i was not working.July this year (2019) is I year and i thought i could do self assessment for last year which in my case will be July -July as that's when i started working.Is is mandatory you have to wait till the end of tax year to do tax return.can i not do it now as i have already completed 1 year being self employed and do the switch application?

Thanks guys

Alternatively If your partner is working and earning £18600 then you can use that income alone with less paper work.

[zimba]

I started work in July last year(2018) so prior to that i was not working.July this year (2019) is I year and i thought i could do self assessment for last year which in my case will be July -July as that's when i started working.Is is mandatory you have to wait till the end of tax year to do tax return.can i not do it now as i have already completed 1 year being self employed and do the switch application?

Thanks guys

I am not sure what you are talking about. You do not get to define your own tax year. A tax year runs from April to April and that is the period of the self assessment.

[hillam]

Hi guys
Hope someone would shed some light please.
Im planning to make application to switch from 2.5 yrs to 5yrs partner route .
How much fees are involved ? NHS charges, is that £400 to switch and £1033 for home office fees,please correct me if im wrong.

Thanks guys

[CR001]

£1000 IHS plus visa fee.

IHS is £400 per year

[hillam]

£1000 IHS plus visa fee.

IHS is £400 per year

Thanks CR001

[hillam]

Hi guys
First i must admit this forum has been God sent to many myself included as i got my first visa through advise given by legendary of this forum.
I need help guys hope someone can shed some light.On 2017 i was granted 2.5yrs on 10yr partner route which is expiring on May 4th.and instead of applying for extension i want to switch to 5yrs route (Flr M.) First year was working cash in hand.For the last 3 months i been working with Agency and before that i was self employed for 8 months.my question is can i combine earnings from Agency and self employment to meet financial threshold 18600?.i dont have 6 months payslips as i will be with agency 4 months by time to apply.what category of financial threshold do i fall? Do i also have to include my partner wages to the threshold?

Thanks guys

[seagul]

Hi guys
First i must admit this forum has been God sent to many myself included as i got my first visa through advise given by legendary of this forum.
I need help guys hope someone can shed some light.On 2017 i was granted 2.5yrs on 10yr partner route which is expiring on May 4th.and instead of applying for extension i want to switch to 5yrs route (Flr M.) First year was working cash in hand.For the last 3 months i been working with Agency and before that i was self employed for 8 months.my question is can i combine earnings from Agency and self employment to meet financial threshold 18600?.i dont have 6 months payslips as i will be with agency 4 months by time to apply.what category of financial threshold do i fall? Do i also have to include my partner wages to the threshold?

Thanks guys

For counting the self employment income it must either belongs to last full financial year or is from the average of last 2 full financial years which seems like not to be a case in your situation i am afraid.

[hillam]

Thanks seagul
Just a quick qustion.Can i combine earnings for full year to meet up the financial threshold ?that is self employed 8 months + Agency works 4 months. The self employed job is finished but Agency weekly pay is ongoing.
Any more ideas will be appreciated

[zimba]

Thanks seagul
Just a quick qustion.Can i combine earnings for full year to meet up the financial threshold ?that is self employed 8 months + Agency works 4 months. The self employed job is finished but Agency weekly pay is ongoing.
Any more ideas will be appreciated

You cannot use a source of income if the activity is not ongoing at the time of application. There is huge UKVI guide on this subject.
As far as I know, most people have no interest to read it at all

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... -ext_1.pdf

[hillam]

I have read the guidelines but so more confused .please enlighten me here.my self employment was weekly paid through CIS one employer for 8 months. Then when that job finished i registered with Agencies about 4 of them.2 Agencies were paying me through CIS which falls under self employment for 2 months thats 10 months so far and now Im on PAYE with another Agency which will be 2 months by the end of the tax year whereby that will make full financial year,. If i combine 12 months earnings it will be 21K.
If i can't combine my earnings for full 12 months to meet the financial threshold ,what other options is there for me.Do i fall in any of the categories?

Help me here please

[seagul]

now Im on PAYE with another Agency which will be 2 months by the end of the tax year whereby that will make full financial year,.

Means you are no longer a self employed person because of a paye worker means your self employment activity isn't active and won't be ongoing at the date of application.

[hillam]

Thanks seagul Now i understand what you mean.
If i now go back to CIS which is classified as self employed would i be fitting in any category(A-F)?

Just a bit confused at the moment.

Thanks guys

[zimba]

Thanks seagul Now i understand what you mean.
If i now go back to CIS which is classified as self employed would i be fitting in any category(A-F)?

Just a bit confused at the moment.

Thanks guys

The guide explicitly tells you that you need to provide all sorts of evidence to prove your ongoing self employment activity.

[hillam]

Thanks zimba and seagul i appreciate your advise guys.in my case what option do i have? As it seems i don't qualify as self employed and when i come to apply i wont have 6 months payslip.
What can i do guys?.my leave expires in May 16

[zimba]

Thanks zimba and seagul i appreciate your advise guys.in my case what option do i have? As it seems i don't qualify as self employed and when i come to apply i wont have 6 months payslip.
What can i do guys?.my leave expires in May 16

If you do not have the required income evidence, then you have no option but to apply under FLR(FP) and switch to the 10 year route

[hillam]

Thanks CR001,zimba,seagul for your advises gents
About switching from 10yr to 5yr partner route,and as i understand from you since i don't have 6 months pay slip i can only apply for another flr fp.(1)Does that mean first extension? 

(2)Can i risky it and apply to switch to 5yr ?

(3)If they grant me another flr fp and then switch 2 months later how much fees and charges will i have to pay?

With leave expiring 16th May, I will be 3 payslips short and hence i ask if i can risky it and provide cover letter for the shortage of payslips?

(4) How easy to make the application? solicitor charging £1200 which i don't have.


Thanks guys

[zimba]

FLR(FP) has no income requirement. That also means you would end up on a new ILR path of 10 years. Switching back means you should pay the fees for FLR(M) as normal again and start the 5 years from scratch

[seagul]

Thanks CR001,zimba,seagul for your advises gents
About switching from 10yr to 5yr partner route,and as i understand from you since i don't have 6 months pay slip i can only apply for another flr fp.(1)Does that mean first extension? 

(2)Can i risky it and apply to switch to 5yr ?

(3)If they grant me another flr fp and then switch 2 months later how much fees and charges will i have to pay?

With leave expiring 16th May, I will be 3 payslips short and hence i ask if i can risky it and provide cover letter for the shortage of payslips?

(4) How easy to make the application? solicitor charging £1200 which i don't have.


Thanks guys

In my opinion it will not only be a costly risk apart of financial wise but also a dangerous manoeuvre because UKVI caseworker excercise zero discretion especially where financial requirement isn't met. Moreover, refusal of FLRM doesn't always results in granting the flrfp rather the application can be refused on grounds of having no insurmountable obstacles in settling back home/outside of UK with family. Therefore, better to extend your existing visa under similar category unless you and/or partner has cash savings and if not then after few months if you will have surplus funds than may switch into flrm 5 years of route. Also usually a sound mind person with healthy immigration history having average level of literacy to laptop/smartphone & English language doesn't need solicitor with the help of board & other official guidance.

[hillam]

Thanks seagul and zimba for your advise guys.
As i dont meet financial requirement i.e 1 month short payslip,i think i will do first extension as you advised and probably switch to FLM.my problem is my leave expires in 16th May and planning to extend on 10th.
If i had till end of May i would have obtained enough payslip to switch to flm instead of extending to flr fp.
My last question guys is by end of May i will have all the requirements to switch to flm.can i still switch and do i still have pay another IHS bearing in mind I would have already paid in May 10th while extending.what will the fees be for switching? .
Thanks again guys

[seagul]

.my problem is my leave expires in 16th May and planning to extend on 10th.
If i had till end of May i would have obtained enough payslip to switch to flm instead of extending to flr fp.

The supporting documents must not be dated after the date of application. Therefore, better to apply flrfp in timely and then more likely you won't get decision probably for the next few months. In that case once you will get your missing payslip and A1 English language test then may vary into flrm application.

[hillam]

Seagul thanks again pal you are priceless cheers bruv

[hillam]

Hi seagul zimba ,CR001 please have a look on below advise i was given by solicitor.Tell me what do you think?
I wrote the following about switching from flr fp 10yr partner route to 5yr .

Hi solicitor
Just a quick question more of a concern.
I have been scanning internet religiously looking for an answer with no avail.been reading home office guidelines on switching from 10 flr fp to 5 yrs on self employment and it seems i don't fall in any category A,B,F or any other category as my self employment is inactive at the time of application.The other thing is that after finishing self employment in November last year,i have been working with agency and needing 6 months payslips,i will be 1 month short henceforth not falling in any category. Although my earnings for last year will be 22K and doing B1 test,it seems i don't meet the financial requirements and therefore im stressed and in a limbo my leave expires 16th May
What do you advise?

Hi Patrick
You are just going to have to trust me on this rather than trawling the internet!

We wll be using a combination of your self employment and employment, as long as you earned over £18,600 with a combination of your employment and self employment then you will be fine, furthermore the worst thing that can happen is that you are kept on the 10 year route. There is nothing to lose in trying to got on the 5 year route and everything to gain!!!