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Note the application requires only a minimum of documents.NV319 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:59 pmMy questions are:
1- What documents can I provide as evidence to prove I was in the UK on 15/03/2018? Do I need to provide evidence of this at all? I have P60s for the past 5 years, and also Council Tax Bills, would these suffice? You don't need to prove this date.
2- Good Character Requirement. Do I need to provide any evidence for this? Surely they will have my records. I have no caution, penalties or any criminality records. On the application I have declared I have none. Do I need to prove it? No.
3- Because of Brexit, I had to update my BRC which was issued under EEA regulations to the one under EUSS, which was Pre-settled. That BRC is still valid, even though I have now Settled Status, however, when I got settled status (via email), HO did not send me a new BRC stating on it settled status as opposed to the one which I have which states pre-settled on it. Would this make things complicated? No.
4- Proof of living in the UK for me for 5 years. What documents should I submit to prove this? On the application, on documents section, it states that:
“If you are a Non-EEA National, you need to include your passport to prove you have lived in the UK for the relevant 3- or 5-year period.
If you do not have your passport or it was not stamped when you entered the UK, you need to include letters (for example, from your employer or government department) as proof.
Bank statements or household bills are not suitable proof you have been living in the UK.”
My question here is: can I provide P60s and Council Tax Bills for the past 5 years? Would these be suitable proof? P60 for each year is sufficient.
5- For proof of residency in the UK for the past 5 years, I have obtained my travel history from HO, and they have provided it to me. The guidance says that to prove qualifying period and that I have not been absent from the UK for more than 450 days in 5 years and more than 90 days in the last 12 months, I should provide my passport with stamps to evidence these. As family member of an EU national, most of my travels were in the EU and therefore, my passports were not stamped at all. What documents can I provide to evidence these? I don't have the tickets however, HO has my travel history and I can see that they have all my travel history for the past 5 years, and according to their records of my travel history, I have not been out of the UK for more than 450 days in the last 5 years and more than 90 days in the last 12 months. Proof of residency are your P60s per #4.
6- To evidence that I intend to live in the UK after I obtain British Citizenship, what documents can I submit? Can I submit my employment contract and the Title of our flat? Is there any other evidence that I should supply? No evidence required.
Apologies for a long list of questions and thank you in advance.
Thank you so much! guess I am all set to apply on 14/03/2023!alterhase58 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 6:53 pmNote the application requires only a minimum of documents.NV319 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:59 pmMy questions are:
1- What documents can I provide as evidence to prove I was in the UK on 15/03/2018? Do I need to provide evidence of this at all? I have P60s for the past 5 years, and also Council Tax Bills, would these suffice? You don't need to prove this date.
2- Good Character Requirement. Do I need to provide any evidence for this? Surely they will have my records. I have no caution, penalties or any criminality records. On the application I have declared I have none. Do I need to prove it? No.
3- Because of Brexit, I had to update my BRC which was issued under EEA regulations to the one under EUSS, which was Pre-settled. That BRC is still valid, even though I have now Settled Status, however, when I got settled status (via email), HO did not send me a new BRC stating on it settled status as opposed to the one which I have which states pre-settled on it. Would this make things complicated? No.
4- Proof of living in the UK for me for 5 years. What documents should I submit to prove this? On the application, on documents section, it states that:
“If you are a Non-EEA National, you need to include your passport to prove you have lived in the UK for the relevant 3- or 5-year period.
If you do not have your passport or it was not stamped when you entered the UK, you need to include letters (for example, from your employer or government department) as proof.
Bank statements or household bills are not suitable proof you have been living in the UK.”
My question here is: can I provide P60s and Council Tax Bills for the past 5 years? Would these be suitable proof? P60 for each year is sufficient.
5- For proof of residency in the UK for the past 5 years, I have obtained my travel history from HO, and they have provided it to me. The guidance says that to prove qualifying period and that I have not been absent from the UK for more than 450 days in 5 years and more than 90 days in the last 12 months, I should provide my passport with stamps to evidence these. As family member of an EU national, most of my travels were in the EU and therefore, my passports were not stamped at all. What documents can I provide to evidence these? I don't have the tickets however, HO has my travel history and I can see that they have all my travel history for the past 5 years, and according to their records of my travel history, I have not been out of the UK for more than 450 days in the last 5 years and more than 90 days in the last 12 months. Proof of residency are your P60s per #4.
6- To evidence that I intend to live in the UK after I obtain British Citizenship, what documents can I submit? Can I submit my employment contract and the Title of our flat? Is there any other evidence that I should supply? No evidence required.
Apologies for a long list of questions and thank you in advance.
I have received my settled status mid March 2022 (as an non EU, family member of an EU national). I just wanted to check with a qualified person if I am able or permitted to apply for my citizenship if I have held my settled status for less than 12 months?
You cannot. The only time you do not have to wait 12 months is if you are married to a British Citizen.I can prove I have been living in the UK for the past 5 years, no issues there. It is just I am unsure if I can apply if I have not held the settle status for 12 full months (mid March 2023, it will be 12 full months).
CR001 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:04 pmI have received my settled status mid March 2022 (as an non EU, family member of an EU national). I just wanted to check with a qualified person if I am able or permitted to apply for my citizenship if I have held my settled status for less than 12 months?
If you are not married to a British citizen, you MUST wait the full 12 months on Settled Status before you can apply. The requirement is very clear on this.
You cannot. The only time you do not have to wait 12 months is if you are married to a British Citizen.I can prove I have been living in the UK for the past 5 years, no issues there. It is just I am unsure if I can apply if I have not held the settle status for 12 full months (mid March 2023, it will be 12 full months).
Great. Thanks for your input. I have contacted the relevant department now and asked them for an outcome. They said they will look into it and will make contact with me. She said that it will either be a no further action, warning, or a fixed penalty. I shall keep you posted on how this goes.alterhase58 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:33 pmIt's difficult to comment or even recommend what to do - there isn't any definitive guidance apart from what's contained in the "Good Character" guidance, which is "wooley" in many areas: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... y-guidance
First of all you haven't been convicted of anything - so the only thing that comes to mind is for you to either wait or contact the relevant council department to find out what is happening. Maybe they have already decided on the case but haven't let you know yet. Absence of a communication doesn't mean it has been resolved.
If you want to progress your application now then best you disclose the case, explain in a covering letter including all details. We can't second-guess caseworkers' views on something like this.
Can I ask if I can still apply for my citizenship if this is taking too long for the Council to get back to me with a decision?NV319 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:10 pmGreat. Thanks for your input. I have contacted the relevant department now and asked them for an outcome. They said they will look into it and will make contact with me. She said that it will either be a no further action, warning, or a fixed penalty. I shall keep you posted on how this goes.alterhase58 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:33 pmIt's difficult to comment or even recommend what to do - there isn't any definitive guidance apart from what's contained in the "Good Character" guidance, which is "wooley" in many areas: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... y-guidance
First of all you haven't been convicted of anything - so the only thing that comes to mind is for you to either wait or contact the relevant council department to find out what is happening. Maybe they have already decided on the case but haven't let you know yet. Absence of a communication doesn't mean it has been resolved.
If you want to progress your application now then best you disclose the case, explain in a covering letter including all details. We can't second-guess caseworkers' views on something like this.
Thanks. That is helpful. I will declare it on the application and provide details of it in the space provided there, it is safer I believe.alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:10 amThere’s no time limit as to when you apply for naturalisation. It’s not an immigration application. As long as you remain resident in the UK you could apply even years after gaining settled status.
The requirement is that you're physically in the UK 5 years ago on the same day. Not that you had to remain in the UK for the whole month.NV319 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:46 pmThanks. That is helpful. I will declare it on the application and provide details of it in the space provided there, it is safer I believe.alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:10 amThere’s no time limit as to when you apply for naturalisation. It’s not an immigration application. As long as you remain resident in the UK you could apply even years after gaining settled status.
I have one another question.
1- I am applying naturalisation (british citizenship) on 14/03/2023 (12 months and 1 day after obtaining EUSS - settled status). The rules say, the day (which will be 14/03/2023 and was in the UK until 18/03/2018) HO receives my application, the same day 5years ago (which is 14/03/2018 and was in UK until 18/03/2018) I I had to physically be in the UK - which I was in the UK.
However, on 19/03/2018, I flew out of the UK and went on holiday for 2 weeks. Came back to the UK on 1/04/2018. Do you advise if the timing of making my application is correct? Can I submit my application on 14/03/2023? as 5 years ago on this day (14/03/2018 to 18/03/2018) I was physically in the UK.
Amazing. I thought the same, but just needed some advice. Thank you.Ticktack wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:24 pmThe requirement is that you're physically in the UK 5 years ago on the same day. Not that you had to remain in the UK for the whole month.NV319 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:46 pmThanks. That is helpful. I will declare it on the application and provide details of it in the space provided there, it is safer I believe.alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:10 amThere’s no time limit as to when you apply for naturalisation. It’s not an immigration application. As long as you remain resident in the UK you could apply even years after gaining settled status.
I have one another question.
1- I am applying naturalisation (british citizenship) on 14/03/2023 (12 months and 1 day after obtaining EUSS - settled status). The rules say, the day (which will be 14/03/2023 and was in the UK until 18/03/2018) HO receives my application, the same day 5years ago (which is 14/03/2018 and was in UK until 18/03/2018) I I had to physically be in the UK - which I was in the UK.
However, on 19/03/2018, I flew out of the UK and went on holiday for 2 weeks. Came back to the UK on 1/04/2018. Do you advise if the timing of making my application is correct? Can I submit my application on 14/03/2023? as 5 years ago on this day (14/03/2018 to 18/03/2018) I was physically in the UK.
What you do 5 days later on the 19th/20th doesn't affect the application.
Summary, it's OK.
So, I have an update on this. Contacted the Council, and they said they will be giving me a Fixed Penalty Notice and if it is paid, then this matter will be resolved/closed.alterhase58 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:10 amThere’s no time limit as to when you apply for naturalisation. It’s not an immigration application. As long as you remain resident in the UK you could apply even years after gaining settled status.
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pmYou can do either, a cover letter which you can load with your other documents, or use the space available if it will fit.
Per the guidance this should not be an issue, see pp17 "Fixed penalty notices, penalty charge notices and penalty notices for disorder":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Sorry I have 2 more questions:NV319 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:17 amalterhase58 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pmYou can do either, a cover letter which you can load with your other documents, or use the space available if it will fit.
Per the guidance this should not be an issue, see pp17 "Fixed penalty notices, penalty charge notices and penalty notices for disorder":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Thank you. Do I need to provide evidence that penalty has been paid? What evidence should I provide?
NV319 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:27 amSorry I have 2 more questions:NV319 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:17 amalterhase58 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pmYou can do either, a cover letter which you can load with your other documents, or use the space available if it will fit.
Per the guidance this should not be an issue, see pp17 "Fixed penalty notices, penalty charge notices and penalty notices for disorder":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Thank you. Do I need to provide evidence that penalty has been paid? What evidence should I provide? No specific guidance, probably best to enclose a copy of the FP notice and state that you paid it.
1- does it matter how long ago the employment letters are? I have obtained them early Feb 2023. It's recent so ok.
2- does it matter how long ago did the referees sign the declaration letters, i.e., 1 month ago before submitting my application. It's recent so ok.
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 7:14 amNV319 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:27 amSorry I have 2 more questions:NV319 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:17 amalterhase58 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pmYou can do either, a cover letter which you can load with your other documents, or use the space available if it will fit.
Per the guidance this should not be an issue, see pp17 "Fixed penalty notices, penalty charge notices and penalty notices for disorder":
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
Thank you. Do I need to provide evidence that penalty has been paid? What evidence should I provide? No specific guidance, probably best to enclose a copy of the FP notice and state that you paid it.
1- does it matter how long ago the employment letters are? I have obtained them early Feb 2023. It's recent so ok.
2- does it matter how long ago did the referees sign the declaration letters, i.e., 1 month ago before submitting my application. It's recent so ok.
alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:01 pmThe two things aren't really connected. There's no time limit as to when you can apply, either now or after you have paid the fine, it's up to you. There's nothing procedural defined for these cases, just provide the details, etc. Caseworkers aren't going to re-examine the case, they'll just see you have disclosed and dealt/dealing with it.
An update on this, the FPN is supposed to be hand delivered to me today, which I will be making the payment and closing the matter fully.NV319 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:21 amThank you!!!alterhase58 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:01 pmThe two things aren't really connected. There's no time limit as to when you can apply, either now or after you have paid the fine, it's up to you. There's nothing procedural defined for these cases, just provide the details, etc. Caseworkers aren't going to re-examine the case, they'll just see you have disclosed and dealt/dealing with it.
You are overthinking, of no impact on the application.NV319 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:39 amHi again. Sorry I am trying to finalise my application, and keep thinking of the past and what has happened to ensure I am submitting correct info.
In 2016, when I was a student at uni in UK, I was rending a studio flat, and my landlady accused me that I had destroyed her shower cubicle due to excessive showering and also that someone else was living with me for 3 months! Both of these allegations were of course incorrect and I got my Uni housing team involved and they had their solicitors get involved and act on my behalf. The landlady made a money claim online of £300 for the damages to the shower. After speaking to my uni solicitor they said that I could counterclaim for £300, which we did.but then the landlady’s claim was struck out by the court because they had failed to provide any evidence for their claim and allegation. My solicitor got in contact with the landlady, and it was agreed to settle the matter out of the court. I terminated my tenancy early and move out and paid half of my rent from the deposit (as it was agreed) and also got remainder of my deposit back. The matter was closed/settled before end of 2016.
Now, I cannot remember more details about this nor do I have any documents on this matter. I am unsure if I need to disclose this on the cover letter as on the application form I don't see anywhere I can disclose this. I am also concern if this may have an impact on my application - any advice?
Thanks. I do not believe this has anything to do with what they actually ask on the application form. They are interested on things like penalties, cautions, and warnings and etc. The above was none of these. It was something between tenant and landlord and was fully resolved anyway ago as we both agreed to drop our claims and settle this matter.AmazonianX wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:55 amYou are overthinking, of no impact on the application.NV319 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:39 amHi again. Sorry I am trying to finalise my application, and keep thinking of the past and what has happened to ensure I am submitting correct info.
In 2016, when I was a student at uni in UK, I was rending a studio flat, and my landlady accused me that I had destroyed her shower cubicle due to excessive showering and also that someone else was living with me for 3 months! Both of these allegations were of course incorrect and I got my Uni housing team involved and they had their solicitors get involved and act on my behalf. The landlady made a money claim online of £300 for the damages to the shower. After speaking to my uni solicitor they said that I could counterclaim for £300, which we did.but then the landlady’s claim was struck out by the court because they had failed to provide any evidence for their claim and allegation. My solicitor got in contact with the landlady, and it was agreed to settle the matter out of the court. I terminated my tenancy early and move out and paid half of my rent from the deposit (as it was agreed) and also got remainder of my deposit back. The matter was closed/settled before end of 2016.
Now, I cannot remember more details about this nor do I have any documents on this matter. I am unsure if I need to disclose this on the cover letter as on the application form I don't see anywhere I can disclose this. I am also concern if this may have an impact on my application - any advice?