Application for Ireland Citizenship on behalf of minor

[Southernbird]

Hi everyone, we got Irish citizenship via naturalisation and now we are starting the process for our child.
When looking at the form and info on website, it seems that only documents to produce are the school statement of attendance and the copy of the biometric passport page to be validated by a commissioner of oaths.

Is there anything else required (i.e. original birth certificate, letters from previous schools…) and if so, could you please share a link to the complete list of documents?

Thanks!

[GTO]

While i don't have a link to the list at the moment, I had submitted certified Passport and Birth certificate copy, Certified Naturalization cert of mine, Utility bill, and School letter (covering last 3 years).

[Southernbird]

Thanks for the response, and were all of those required or did you just volunteer them because you had them?
Just thinking the birth certificate will require a trip home…

[ackk]

Thanks for the response, and were all of those required or did you just volunteer them because you had them?
Just thinking the birth certificate will require a trip home…

You will definitely provide your minor certified original birth certificate.

[lenduha]

I think @southernbird refers the list of documents you can find on online application form when you apply on behalf of a minor as a naturalized parent? Apparently, birth certificate is not one of them.

Application by a naturalised Irish parent on behalf of a minor
Criteria for applying as a minor:
• Under 18 yrs
• Meet the relevant conditions for residence.
• Have a naturalised parent
The following documentation must be provided with this application:
• A certified colour copy of the biometric page of your child’s current in date passport. The colour copy must be certified by a solicitor, commissioner for oaths, peace commissioner or notary public.

• A certified copy of your naturalisation certificate or a certified colour copy of the biometric page of your current in date Irish passport.

• Original (not photocopies of) school letters from each school attended by your child for three years. The school letters must show enrolment dates, periods of attendance and the number of days attended in each school year.

o If your child has attended school for less than three years the following documents are acceptable
 A letter from the Creche/Playschool or Montessori can also be provided showing enrolment dates and periods of attendance
 A letter from the Department of Social Protection stating that you are receipt of child benefit for your child, and the date on which payment commenced
 A letter from your doctor stating that your child is registered with the practice, the date your child was first registered and the dates your child attended the surgery, including your child’s Patient Immunisation Record where applicable

• If your child is home schooled please provide a letter from Tusla Educational Support Service

• In rare circumstances where a minor cannot produce a current passport, or a previous passport, you should provide a sworn affidavit giving a full explanation. Such explanation should, where possible, be supported by satisfactory evidence of your attempts to obtain a passport from the relevant authorities and clearly stating the reasons the passport cannot be provided.

• A copy of the minor’s current Irish Residence Permit issued by the Garda National Immigration Bureau (GNIB) or Immigration Service Delivery (ISD) as appropriate (if applicable).

[ackk]

I think @southernbird refers the list of documents you can find on online application form when you apply on behalf of a minor as a naturalized parent? Apparently, birth certificate is not one of them.

Application by a naturalised Irish parent on behalf of a minor
Criteria for applying as a minor:
• Under 18 yrs
• Meet the relevant conditions for residence.
• Have a naturalised parent
The following documentation must be provided with this application:
• A certified colour copy of the biometric page of your child’s current in date passport. The colour copy must be certified by a solicitor, commissioner for oaths, peace commissioner or notary public.

• A certified copy of your naturalisation certificate or a certified colour copy of the biometric page of your current in date Irish passport.

• Original (not photocopies of) school letters from each school attended by your child for three years. The school letters must show enrolment dates, periods of attendance and the number of days attended in each school year.

o If your child has attended school for less than three years the following documents are acceptable
 A letter from the Creche/Playschool or Montessori can also be provided showing enrolment dates and periods of attendance
 A letter from the Department of Social Protection stating that you are receipt of child benefit for your child, and the date on which payment commenced
 A letter from your doctor stating that your child is registered with the practice, the date your child was first registered and the dates your child attended the surgery, including your child’s Patient Immunisation Record where applicable

• If your child is home schooled please provide a letter from Tusla Educational Support Service

• In rare circumstances where a minor cannot produce a current passport, or a previous passport, you should provide a sworn affidavit giving a full explanation. Such explanation should, where possible, be supported by satisfactory evidence of your attempts to obtain a passport from the relevant authorities and clearly stating the reasons the passport cannot be provided.

• A copy of the minor’s current Irish Residence Permit issued by the Garda National Immigration Bureau (GNIB) or Immigration Service Delivery (ISD) as appropriate (if applicable).

If you check the "CHECKLIST" it clearly mentioned a photocopy of minor child's original Civil Birth Certificate that has been certified to be true copy.

[lenduha]

Can you share the link for this CHECKLIST, please? I found this FORM11https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... Oct-23.pdf on web and it's CHECKLIST really mentions the birth certificate, but during online application it does not mention it That part is confusing honestly.

[ackk]

Can you share the link for this CHECKLIST, please? I found this FORM11https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... Oct-23.pdf on web and it's CHECKLIST really mentions the birth certificate, but during online application it does not mention it That part is confusing honestly.

The recent online application does not have CHECKLIST or mention Birth Certificate which only started recently but the old version does, However you cannot apply for citizenship without a birth certificate anywhere in the world. (I submitted birth certificate for my minor child even though she was born in Ireland)

[Southernbird]

Hi, I can now confirm that although birth certificate is not listed in the checklist that @Lenduha shared, when I tried to submit the online form with only certified copies of my child’s passport and my Irish citizenship certificate, and the school letter, an error message appeared and didn’t let me continue.
You need to upload “proof of relationship or family status”, which in practice is the birth certificate
They should update that checklist…

[RiteshMital]

SO WHICH DOCUMENT GOES UNDER WHISH CATEGORY ???

[Applic83]

SO WHICH DOCUMENT GOES UNDER WHISH CATEGORY ???

passport copy (bio page) falls under "proof of identity"
Birth cert of child falls under "proof of relationship"
Parent's citizenship certificate or photo of irish passport falls under "proof of family member citizenship"
The rest (School letters, or GP or child benefit statement) fall under "proof of residency"

[Southernbird]

Hi again, just wondering if anyone that has applied for citizenship on behalf of a minor in recent times could share a timeline (no feedback after a couple of months, not even the Garda vetting request), I thought this one would be quicker…
Also, my child will turn 18 later this year and I’m hoping if the naturalisation happens afterwards, I still need to pay just for the “minor” fee.
Any thoughts?
Thanks

[adnangul]

Hi All

I submitted my online application for my 8 year old daughter on 3rd of March 2024 on the website. I haven't received the acknowledgement letter regarding her application so far. Is that normal and Does anyone is facing same problem Thanks

[Atrides]

The same story, I applied in May for my kids', paid fees, and received a Citizenship Application number. I can see submitted forms on https://inisonline.jahs.ie/.No progress since then. Looks like they are on holidays

[adnangul]

Application Based On: Ireland Citizenship on behalf of minor (7 years)
Applied Date: 03/03/2024
Acknowledgement Date: 03/03/2024
Acknowledgement Letter: Pending
eVetting invitation from ISD received/sent: Pending
eVetting invitation from Garda received/sent: Pending
Approval: Pending
Certificate received: Pending

Kindly ask you to share your one

[adnangul]

Application Based On: Ireland Citizenship on behalf of minor (7 years)
Applied Date: 03/03/2024
Acknowledgement Date: 03/03/2024
Acknowledgement Letter: 15/07/2024
eVetting invitation from ISD received/sent: Pending (I am not sure if it is applicable for minor)
eVetting invitation from Garda received/sent: Pending (I am not sure if it is applicable for minor)
Approval: Pending
Certificate received: Pending

[Henryngo]

Hi All,

I have submitted the Irish Naturalization for my kids by uploaded electronic documents. I received the application acknowledge email with content: "... Citizenship Division will now examine your application, if any further documentation/clarification is required from you we will revert in due course. It is important that you keep the citizenship unit updated of your current address as your ​documents will be sent to the address on ​your application.​ ..."

They don't request physical documents for sending by post.

Do I need to send the physical documents (e.g. copy of passports, original school letter,.. ) to them by post?
If yes, I need to post to the following address?

Citizenship Division
Immigration Service Delivery
Department of Justice
13-14 Burgh Quay
Dublin 2 D02 XK70

Thanks,

[Vadrar]

Hi All,

I have submitted the Irish Naturalization for my kids by uploaded electronic documents. I received the application acknowledge email with content: "... Citizenship Division will now examine your application, if any further documentation/clarification is required from you we will revert in due course. It is important that you keep the citizenship unit updated of your current address as your ​documents will be sent to the address on ​your application.​ ..."

They don't request physical documents for sending by post.

Do I need to send the physical documents (e.g. copy of passports, original school letter,.. ) to them by post?
If yes, I need to post to the following address?

Citizenship Division
Immigration Service Delivery
Department of Justice
13-14 Burgh Quay
Dublin 2 D02 XK70

Thanks,

Online applications are designed for digital submission. There should be no need to submit anything physical (and they’ve no expectation or intention to receive any physical copies), and they definitely do not want unrequested physical duplicates of documents you’ve already uploaded. If they need anything else they’ll contact you by email and expect you to upload their requirements digitally on the portal.

[Henryngo]

Hi Vadrar,

Thanks for your support. However, I still confuse about posting physical documents. In their guidelines,
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... orm-9.docx

"
The following documentation must be provided with this application:
• A certified colour copy of the biometric page of your child’s current in date passport. The colour copy must be certified by a solicitor, commissioner for oaths, peace commissioner or notary public.

• A certified copy of your naturalisation certificate or a certified colour copy of the biometric page of your current in date Irish passport.
"
The Citizenship Division has requested "a certified copy of the Irish naturalisation certificate or Irish passport." I believe they are requesting a physical certified copy because if they only needed an electronic document, they would not specify that it must be certified.

Thanks,

[Vadrar]

Hi Vadrar,

Thanks for your support. However, I still confuse about posting physical documents. In their guidelines,
https://www.irishimmigration.ie/wp-cont ... orm-9.docx

"
The following documentation must be provided with this application:
• A certified colour copy of the biometric page of your child’s current in date passport. The colour copy must be certified by a solicitor, commissioner for oaths, peace commissioner or notary public.

• A certified copy of your naturalisation certificate or a certified colour copy of the biometric page of your current in date Irish passport.
"
The Citizenship Division has requested "a certified copy of the Irish naturalisation certificate or Irish passport." I believe they are requesting a physical certified copy because if they only needed an electronic document, they would not specify that it must be certified.

Thanks,

Form 9 is the paper application, and the guidelines for Form 9 are not the guidelines for the online application.

If you are using the online application you need to use the instructions within the online portal and submit digital documents only. If you are using paper Form 9, then yes you must submit physical documents and no digital documents.

But the digital copies of any identity document *must* indeed be certified, as the online portal clearly states. You need to take your original physical
documents to an eg Justice of the Peace, along with a photocopy. They check the original and are allowed to certify a copy. You upload the certified copy.

Online application = digital upload only of certified copies. Paper form 9 = post certified copies.

[Henryngo]

Hi Vadrar,

I submitted my application online.

With your explanation "But the digital copies of any identity document *must* indeed be certified, as the online portal clearly states. You need to take your original physical
documents to an eg Justice of the Peace, along with a photocopy. They check the original and are allowed to certify a copy. You upload the certified copy."

I am still confused:
Why can't we upload/use the electronic original Irish Passport, instead of the electronic certified photocopy of the Irish Passport?

Thanks,

[Vadrar]

Hi Vadrar,

I submitted my application online.

With your explanation "But the digital copies of any identity document *must* indeed be certified, as the online portal clearly states. You need to take your original physical
documents to an eg Justice of the Peace, along with a photocopy. They check the original and are allowed to certify a copy. You upload the certified copy."

I am still confused:
Why can't we upload/use the electronic original Irish Passport, instead of the electronic certified photocopy of the Irish Passport?

Thanks,

Because in your method, only you have seen the original, so what you are uploading has had no verification outside you, who may want to file a fraudulent application.

A certified document means an Irish official has inspected the original, held it in their hands and written on a copy words to the effect of: an official who is independent of this application is satisfied this copy is based on a real and not forged document. Someone other than the applicant has had a chance to check for fraud.

In practice officials certifying documents may be easily fooled by a good quality forgery, or even unfamiliar with what the original should be. But it’s better than everyone being allowed to upload anything they claim is original with no checks or balances at all.

[Henryngo]

Thanks Vadrar.

[Vadrar]

Thanks Vadrar.

My pleasure

[HADI03]

Hi all,
I applied on the 28/03/2024 for two minors. Acknowledgements Received 28/03/2024. I haven't heard anything back from them yet. Maybe I should let a lawyer handle it.