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simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:22 am

i recieved a simple caution in 2009 ,,recieved my ilr in 2014 and would like to apply for my citizenship but worried i will be rejected as i recieved a simple caution is 2009..is it worth applying? thanks

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by contorted_svy » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:28 am

If that is your only run in with the law and you didn't receive a prison sentence, I would think that should be OK. Review the full good character guidance here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:42 pm

contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:28 am
If that is your only run in with the law and you didn't receive a prison sentence, I would think that should be OK. Review the full good character guidance here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:09 am

saguy1984 wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:42 pm
contorted_svy wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:28 am
If that is your only run in with the law and you didn't receive a prison sentence, I would think that should be OK. Review the full good character guidance here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... racter.pdf
thanks
do you know how i can challenge the caution? it was 2009..i was young ..im 40 now..and i was also homeleess and i accepted it without even asking to look at the cctv...is there anyway i can see the details of it on file? thanks

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by contorted_svy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:32 am

I think it has been way too long for you to be able to challenge it now but as I explained a simple caution all this time ago is unlikely to affect your application if it is your only incident with the law.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:44 am

contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:32 am
I think it has been way too long for you to be able to challenge it now but as I explained a simple caution all this time ago is unlikely to affect your application if it is your only incident with the law.
yes
it has been
apart from me being a victim of a hate crime

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Post by contorted_svy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:57 am

That is unfortunate and I am sorry. You got past that and it won't affect your chances for naturalisation, hopefully this helps in dealing with this painful memory.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:02 am

contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:57 am
That is unfortunate and I am sorry. You got past that and it won't affect your chances for naturalisation, hopefully this helps in dealing with this painful memory.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:05 am

contorted_svy wrote:
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That is unfortunate and I am sorry. You got past that and it won't affect your chances for naturalisation, hopefully this helps in dealing with this painful memory.
but i obviously say on my application that i have a simple caution?

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Post by contorted_svy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:36 am

Yes I would disclose and comment on how since then your life has changed and you haven't reoffended.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:56 am

contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:36 am
Yes I would disclose and comment on how since then your life has changed and you haven't reoffended.
if they reject my application because of the caution is it worth paying £1600 again or jsut living with residency forever instead of citizenship?

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Post by AmazonianX » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:10 am

saguy1984 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:56 am
contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:36 am
Yes I would disclose and comment on how since then your life has changed and you haven't reoffended.
if they reject my application because of the caution is it worth paying £1600 again or jsut living with residency forever instead of citizenship?
Be of the hope that it will not be rejected.
If unfortunately it is, decision on next step is yours to make.

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by alterhase58 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:14 am

In the end it's your choice - from your postings here it would appear that your offence wasn't a serious one, you are explaining everything upfront, from what we have seen here applicants with more and serious issues than yourself have been approved.
Difficult to see how you could be refused.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am

alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:14 am
In the end it's your choice - from your postings here it would appear that your offence wasn't a serious one, you are explaining everything upfront, from what we have seen here applicants with more and serious issues than yourself have been approved.
Difficult to see how you could be refused.
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...

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Post by contorted_svy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:42 am

I would say it happened so long ago and you haven't reoffended since that your chances of approval are pretty high - you didn't receive a custodial sentence which is more likely to be a deal breaker. It is your call what do here, we have seen some cases of applicants with criminal records more serious than yours who succeeded.
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Post by Ticktack » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:44 am

saguy1984 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
alterhase58 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:14 am
In the end it's your choice - from your postings here it would appear that your offence wasn't a serious one, you are explaining everything upfront, from what we have seen here applicants with more and serious issues than yourself have been approved.
Difficult to see how you could be refused.
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
It's been 15 years. I wouldn't lose sleep over that. Explain that in your application.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:46 am

contorted_svy wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:42 am
I would say it happened so long ago and you haven't reoffended since that your chances of approval are pretty high - you didn't receive a custodial sentence which is more likely to be a deal breaker. It is your call what do here, we have seen some cases of applicants with criminal records more serious than yours who succeeded.
i guess all i can do is try...

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by vinny » Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:42 am

saguy1984 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
Sounds like an accident.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 1:48 pm

vinny wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:42 am
saguy1984 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:20 am
it was common assault...i had a backpack and flung it on my shoulder and it knocked sunglasses off a womans face at a train station...i did not appeal and jsut accepted it in 2009...
Sounds like an accident.
i just accepted the caution in 2009 and didnt even ask to look at the cctv at waterloo train station
is there any way i can challenge it after all this time or what should i do? i was also homeless at the time and was living with borderline personality disorder which i was only later diagnosed with

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by vinny » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:19 pm

CAN I CHALLENGE A CAUTION AFTERWARDS?

Moreover, any cctv evidence is unlikely to exist now.
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:42 pm

vinny wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:19 pm
CAN I CHALLENGE A CAUTION AFTERWARDS?

Moreover, any cctv evidence is unlikely to exist now.
so there is no hope for me really?

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by vinny » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:50 pm

Click on the above link. If you really want to, then there’s probably no harm trying an
Application for expungement
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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:53 pm

vinny wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:50 pm
Click on the above link. If you really want to, then there’s probably no harm trying an
Application for expungement
is it worth applying for british citizenship if i have a simple caution vinny?

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Post by vinny » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:59 pm

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Re: simple caution in 2009..what are chances of getting citizenship?

Post by saguy1984 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:08 pm

vinny wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:59 pm
See also Cautions, warnings and reprimands.
is 2009 too long ago to ask to get it deleted?

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