ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

ILR parent with child outside UK

Family member & Ancestry immigration; don't post other immigration categories, please!
Marriage | Unmarried Partners | Fiancé | Ancestry

Moderators: Casa, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix, John, ChetanOjha, Administrator

Post Reply
Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 1:29 am

Hi please can I ask for guidance on how I can bring my son to settle with me here in the UK?

I am currently holding ILR now after being my wife’s PBS dependent spouse tier2 in 2019. I have a son before marriage who I want to settle with us here. I had him since he was a toddler and my mum looks after him since i came here. What pathway is best to take pls?
- Is it family visa? If i do this does he still need to apply for ilr after? If so, when can he apply for ilr?
-Or can i apply for ilr straightaway even if he is outside uk? If this possible when can he apply for citizenship?
-or will it easier if i get to be naturalised first before i get him here?

Please kindly advise me. Thank you.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 89307
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 17, 2026 6:35 am

How old is he?

Where is the other parent of rhe child?
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 7:11 am

Thank you kindly for you quick reply. He will be 18 at the end of this year. The mother is at the same country where i come from however my son grew up with me until i came here in the UK. I had him since he was a toddler. My son was born when we were teens and his mother and i went separately after hew was born. His mother has her own family as well.

secret.simon
Moderator
Posts: 11723
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:29 pm

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by secret.simon » Fri Apr 17, 2026 7:26 am

Do you have legal custody of the child? if not, can you prove sole responsibility?

The child will need to start their UK immigration journey before their 18th birthday. After that, they can no longer be sponsored on the family route as a child.
I am not a lawyer or immigration advisor. My statements/comments do not constitute legal advice. E&OE. Please do not PM me for advice.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 8:40 am

I have no legal document for custody as we were never married. The child was given to me physically when he was a toddler and i took care of him since then. The mother is willing to state in writing that i have sole responsibility. Will that be enough? What documents do i need to prove sole responsibilty pls?

By tye way, He was able to come here in the UK last year under visit visa.

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 24281
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by zimba » Fri Apr 17, 2026 10:04 am

Sole responsibility is not about a parent declaring it. The sole parental responsibility means that one parent has abdicated or abandoned parental responsibility, and the remaining parent is exercising sole control in setting and providing the day-to-day direction for the child’s welfare.

There are specific factors that will be considered in assessing sole responsibility:

•Whether the parents are married/in a civil partnership
•If the marriage/civil partnership is dissolved – which parent was awarded legal custody
•If the sponsoring parent has migrated to the UK – how long have they been separated from the child and what relationship they have with the child
•If the sponsoring parent has migrated to the UK, the nature of the child’s care arrangements before and after they migrated
•Who bears the child’s maintenance costs and at what proportion
•Who makes the important decisions about the child’s upbringing, for example, where the child lives, which school they attend, etc

The immigration rules cover this in detail under Appendix Children: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... e_parental
You are not considering whether the child’s parent (or anyone else) has day-to-day responsibility for the child, but whether the parent has continuing sole control and direction of the child’s upbringing, including making all the important decisions in the child’s life. If not, then they do not have sole parental responsibility for the child. You must carefully consider each application on a case-by-case basis. The burden of proof is on the applicant to provide satisfactory evidence that a parent has sole parental responsibility.

For entry clearance cases, it may be necessary to use local intelligence relating to the applicant’s home country or location to advise on what evidence you should expect to see, or what is likely to be available that you could reasonably ask for, as well as how much weight to give to particular types of evidence. Country-specific information can be found in the country of origin information or via the relevant UK embassy or high commission staff.
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 10:46 am

Thank you so much for your response. Regarding this factors

•Whether the parents are married/in a civil partnership - i am not married with the mother as it was teen pregnancy

•If the marriage/civil partnership is dissolved – which parent was awarded legal custody - the child was given to me and i assumed responsibility since then but no legal document

•If the sponsoring parent has migrated to the UK – how long have they been separated from the child and what relationship they have with the child - i came here in 2019, since then he was left in the care of my mother however i still decide for his general welfare

•If the sponsoring parent has migrated to the UK, the nature of the child’s care arrangements before and after they migrated
•Who bears the child’s maintenance costs and at what proportion - before i came here i was solely responsible for the child
•Who makes the important decisions about the child’s upbringing, for example, where the child lives, which school they attend, etc - i decide for the child however it is acted upon by my mother since i am not there with him

Please can you give me an advise on what is best to do? He will be turning 18 soon. Thank you.

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 24281
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by zimba » Fri Apr 17, 2026 11:16 am

Provide whatever evidence you have and make sure to apply for your son before him turning 18. So as soon as possible
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 11:19 am

what pathway would be best pls? Is it family visa or ILE?

User avatar
zimba
Moderator
Posts: 24281
Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2014 6:13 pm
Location: UK
Mood:
United Kingdom

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by zimba » Fri Apr 17, 2026 12:26 pm

It would be ILE
Advice is given based on my personal research and experience only. Do NOT contact me via private message for immigration advice

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 12:32 pm

Thank you so much. I will start the application asap. Is ILE the same as ILR? Or does he still need to apply for ILR when he gets here? If he gets approved with ILE.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 12:46 pm

Also would he be eligible to apply for citizenship under ILE? Im sorry for all the questions and if they sound stupid. I just want to make sure what to do next just in case he gets approved for ILE. Thank you.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 89307
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 17, 2026 1:36 pm

He would need at least 2 years residence if under 18 for citizenship.

As he will be 18 soon, he will have to wait 5 years from date he enters the uk.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 1:46 pm

Thank you for your reply. Is ILE the same as ILR? What set do i use for him pls? Set m, set F or set O? Cause i think mine was set o.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 89307
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:03 pm

IlE is Indefinite Leave to Enter, the equivalent of ILR.

ILR can only be applied within the UK.

ILE is an application outside the UK.

You apply for the family visa, meeting all the requimrnets, ie financial. He might get a 2.5 year visa or he might get ILE.

There is no specific form to apply directly for ILE.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:32 pm

Thank you.

If he takes the family visa path, Will he be able to extend the family visa if he is already over 18 after 2.5 years? Also will he then be able to eventually apply for ILR after staying here for 5years?

I am so sorry but is it possible for you to send me a link on the ILE form as I am confused because when i search ILE only the site for ILR comes up so im not sure if i got the right form. Pls help as i dont want to get it wrong.

If he takes the ILE path he can stay here indefinitely then apply for citizenship after 5 years? Is my understanding correct?

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 89307
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by CR001 » Fri Apr 17, 2026 3:09 pm

If a 2.5 years is issued, then yes he extends and applies for ILR after 5 years.

If ILE is granted, nothing further to do until citizenship.

There is NO form to specifically apply for ILE.

It is the child visa form under Appendix FM you use.

https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/child

Why didn't you bring the child with you in 2019?
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Fri Apr 17, 2026 5:01 pm

Thank you so much for the link as i was really confused on what form to use. Well in 2019 when i initially opened the idea of living with us here he was not very keen and somehow a few life events happened in between then and now that tied us financially like having a baby and my wife being on maternity for a year, getting a mortgage and acquiring some properties in our home country. But then when he visited us here last year for the first time and the idea of living with us was brought up again he was wanting to do it. Hence just applying for him now.

Lapotz
Newly Registered
Posts: 11
Joined: Thu May 13, 2021 7:55 am
Philippines

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by Lapotz » Sun Apr 19, 2026 7:16 am

Hi please can i just ask. If I upload a screenshot of my conversations with my mother who looks after my son which will be in a different language, does it need to be translated in english? Thank you in advance.

User avatar
CR001
Moderator
Posts: 89307
Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: London
Mood:
South Africa

Re: ILR parent with child outside UK

Post by CR001 » Sun Apr 19, 2026 10:38 am

Any supporting documents you submit that are not in English must be translated by an official verifiable translator, ie you cannot do the translation yourself.
Char (CR001 not Casa)
In life you cannot press the Backspace button!!
Please DO NOT send me a PM for immigration advice. I reserve the right to ignore the PM and not respond.

Post Reply