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goodmans
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ILR & P45 Help Please

Post by goodmans » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:38 pm

Hi,

I have 2 questions relating to ILR Application form and P45.
Question 1:
It seems like every one in the forum talking about submitting last 5 years p45s+p60s. But when I asked for p45 from my previous employers they said that they can not issue the duplicate p45 and what ever they gave me has been passed on to my new employers. And my previous employer didnt give me p45, but I have p60.

I guess p45 will be passed on to the new employers. in that case how can i get last 5 years p45's, am i wrong?

Question 2:
I am on HSMP and I am an IT contractor. Working as director for my own LTD company.

Q 9G: Highly Skilled Migrant:
Should I ticke the "If you are employed" box (as I am employee of my own LTD company)
or
"if you are self employed" box
or
both?

Regards,
G
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Sten
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Re: ILR & P45

Post by Sten » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:54 pm

2) Its up to you to decide wether you are an employee or self-employed (caseworker's reply to this question). Probably the latter will be easier to support, expecially if you are paying yourself the minimum salary ..
Good luck !

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Re: ILR & P45 Help Please

Post by MrBaboo » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:23 pm

P45s are only given when you leave a job. You should (usually) be given 2 sheets attached together - one you keep for your records, one you pass on to your new employer so they know how much tax they should be taking out of your salary.

P60s are only given by your employer if you are in employment on the last day of the financial year. If you leave before that day you will not normally be given a P60 by that employer.

If you are missing P60s you can write to HMRC and request copies but from personal experience you are unlikely to have any luck with them.

As far as I know there is no way to get duplicate P45s.
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Post by goodmans » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:23 pm

Thanks

But I am drawing around 15k per year. And registered under PAYE schema as well.

Regards
Suresh

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Re: ILR & P45 Help Please

Post by republique » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:25 pm

goodmans wrote:Hi,

I have 2 questions relating to ILR Application form and P45.
Question 1:
It seems like every one in the forum talking about submitting last 5 years p45s+p60s. But when I asked for p45 from my previous employers they said that they can not issue the duplicate p45 and what ever they gave me has been passed on to my new employers. And my previous employer didnt give me p45, but I have p60.

I guess p45 will be passed on to the new employers. in that case how can i get last 5 years p45's, am i wrong?

Question 2:
I am on HSMP and I am an IT contractor. Working as director for my own LTD company.

Q 9G: Highly Skilled Migrant:
Should I ticke the "If you are employed" box (as I am employee of my own LTD company)
or
"if you are self employed" box
or
both?

Regards,
G
You dont need P45 if you have P60
P45 is only relevant if you recently left a position and the P60 hasn't been issued yet.
It doesnt matter what you tick since you have to show the same thing, the p60's, your source of income, your contracts, your recent payslips, depending on your situation.

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Post by goodmans » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:27 pm

I dont know somehow I lost all my p45s, Few were not given to me and few were lost, what is now. Is it going to cause any big problem for me.

:(

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Post by goodmans » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:29 pm

Thanks,

I will try my level best in providing all the docs.

Regards
G

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Post by MrBaboo » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:31 pm

goodmans wrote:I dont know somehow I lost all my p45s, Few were not given to me and few were lost, what is now. Is it going to cause any big problem for me.

:(
How many jobs did you have in the time period? Unless you frequently changed jobs you should not have many P45s. If you were in employment on the last day of the financial each year in the time period, you should have exactly one P60 per year.

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Post by goodmans » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:40 pm

I changed 4 employers in 5 years.

Sep'07 – May’08: i got p60
Jun'05 – Sep'07: i got p60
Dec'04 – May'05: no p60
Dec'03 – Nov'04: i got p45

Since 1 year i am working for my company.

Regards
G

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Post by anandsun » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:25 pm

"Q 9G: Highly Skilled Migrant:
Should I ticke the "If you are employed" box (as I am employee of my own LTD company)
or
"if you are self employed" box
or
both? "

I am an IT contractor and recently got my HSMP stamped. I ticked the employed box, but only because my accountant asked me to do so. It depends on how much salary you draw and how much tax you pay. If you have an accountant that will make things quite easy for you!

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Post by Sten » Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:11 pm

anandsun wrote:If you have an accountant that will make things quite easy for you!
I doubt local accountants know anything about immigration process and can give professional advice on that. Do not forget you are not submitting docs to HMRC but Home Office (or whatever it is called now) ..
Good luck !

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Post by anandsun » Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:39 pm

Well, you are right, they dont know a lot about immigration, but they do know whether you are employed or self-employed based on the tax you are paying - especially if they are filing your papers.

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Post by republique » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:48 pm

anandsun wrote:Well, you are right, they dont know a lot about immigration, but they do know whether you are employed or self-employed based on the tax you are paying - especially if they are filing your papers.
Not exactly
From the HO point of view, it is one thing despite it being technically another status from an HMRC point of view.
As I implied in the other post, it really doesnt matter in that you have to provide recent proof and what is available.
For HSMP it should be easier because we are talking about a smaller range of time than it would be for ILR. It depends on what activity did you do in the last 12 months?
For Naturalization, you should tick selfemployed even though you are working through your limited company because you have to submit your self assessment form. If you ticked employed, it doesnt matter because the bottom line is the HO would want your self assessment.

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Thanks.

Post by goodmans » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:42 am

Thanks to all of you.

After listening to you all. I have decided to pick the employed status and submit

my company's 08-09 accounts +
company 12months bank statements +
income(last 12months) +
my wife's income +
dividend (letter from accountant) +
last 12 months payslips +
p60's what all i got.

Hope that is enough. Wish me luck guys.
Any more suggestions?.

Regards
G

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