marriage ....:(

[honey123]

dear forum,

i desperatly need some help. i have been researching and researching so much and finding evrthing i come up with too difficult to understand. im seveteen and will be turning 18 in 6 months. after that i intend to marry my boyfreind of 2 years. he is here as an asylum seeker and therfore cannot work or travel. hence he canot support me financialy.
1. after we get married will he be granted permission to support us both financialy
2. can we get married since he is an asylum seeker and i am a british citizen
3. how do we go about getting married after i turn 18
4. how much does it cost to get married and can he apply for a visa althought he has be rejected once before?
please please can you help me im in so much mess and in desperate need foranyones help or advice!

[Moderator edit (John) : I have edited out the ridiculous colour and font size. Any repeat of that and posts will get deleted without warning.]

[SYH]

it doesn't help by posting your message in the most objectionable font and color. It is just irritating and the desperation doesn't make your message endearing either.
bye

[sakura]

Agree with SYH.

honey123, you're not the only one in a 'bad' situation. Almost half the people on this board have very big immigration 'nightmares' also. So please respect people's space and eyes by not writing in such a grand font.

To answer your questions....firstly where is your partner from? And what is his current immigration/asylum status That might determine whether or not you can apply for a Certificate of Approval (CoA), as all people who are not a BC, or have ILR or are EEA nationals, will need approval from the BIA (Border and Immigration Agency) to marry in the UK. I suspect that your partner might not be able to get this CoA if his asylum case has been refused and his appeals exhausted. Although there are compassionate grounds, they are used only in exceptional cases.

Your marriage depends on his ability to get a CoA. If his asylum case has been rejected (as a final decision), he'll need to return home because there is nothing he can apply for here, if he doesn't have any type of 'legal' residency.

You can try doing a search on this board for 'asylum' and 'marriage' because there are many many posts about this very issue.

[Jeff Albright]

Well, to my personal opinion, the font used is just very bright and easy to read - I can read it sitting 5 meters away from screen. I find nothing wrong with it, because there are many other forums on the Net where various fonts used all the time and this is perfectly acceptable. I guess everyone has their own opinion in this respect...

First to clarify is whether your fiance has been rejected asylum or his case is still under consideration. In the latter case, probably it is worth trying to apply for COA - the rules for issuing COA have recently been reshuffled although I don't know if the Home Office decided to appeal against Court of Appeal's ruling, I haven't been keeping track of that process.
If his application has been under consideration for some time now without any prospective of decision to be made soon, I think the COA should succeed. However, if the asylum application is subsequently refused, he may have to leave the UK and apply for entry clearance from abroad.

If he is a "failed asylum seeker" the prospective of getting COA is almost nil and you might both decide to marry in his country and then apply for him to return as your spouse.

These choice between these two options depends on your fiance's circumstances.

[OL7MAX]

I find nothing wrong with it, because there are many other forums on the Net where various fonts used all the time and this is perfectly acceptable.

I think the point here is that using such a bold font and colour is worse than using capitals because it's rude. It's objectionable because it screams: I'm so important you should drop everything and listen to me. The exuberance of youth? Perhaps. Or the arrogance of the spoilt brat.

I suggest this honey123 moderates her fonts to maximise the usefulness of the replies she gets.

[Wanderer]

Sometimes I think a dose of realism is in order and accept that sometimes things aren't gonna happen.

As the wheelchair-bound Brian Potter once said "I wanna Moonwalk son, but it's not gonna happen...."

a. He's here illegally

b. It's gonna cost HUGE to regularise his stay, visas and flights say a couple of grand. He will have to do this from his own country.

c. It's young love, chances are it's not gonna last.

So, to answer ur points:

1. No

2. No

3. You can't until he is legal here.

4. From memory, 500 quid for fiance visa, 385 quid for FLR after that, then 750 quid for ILR. then a further 385 quid again all from memory for BC.

[avjones]

where is he from?

Chances are he will have to return to his own country and make an application to return. You would need to prove that you could support him, and that there would be a place for you to live. He wouldn't be able to get benefits.

[olisun]

im seveteen and will be turning 18 in 6 months. after that i intend to marry my boyfreind of 2 years.

If you don't mind telling, what's your BF's age and Nationality?

[Jeff Albright]

I think the point here is that using such a bold font and colour is worse than using capitals because it's rude. It's objectionable because it screams: I'm so important you should drop everything and listen to me. The exuberance of youth? Perhaps. Or the arrogance of the spoilt brat.
I suggest this honey123 moderates her fonts to maximise the usefulness of the replies she gets.

Sorry, mate, I stay with my previous opinion here, if it is ok... Don't see anything rude but again, different people have different views and the right to perceive it different way...

Lets see what this girl says on the advice we have given her so far.

[ball1333]

honey123, what do your families (your own family and his family) think of your situation?

[Wanderer]

dear forum,

i desperatly need some help. i have been researching and researching so much and finding evrthing i come up with too difficult to understand. im seveteen and will be turning 18 in 6 months. after that i intend to marry my boyfreind of 2 years. he is here as an asylum seeker and therfore cannot work or travel. hence he canot support me financialy.
1. after we get married will he be granted permission to support us both financialy
2. can we get married since he is an asylum seeker and i am a british citizen
3. how do we go about getting married after i turn 18
4. how much does it cost to get married and can he apply for a visa althought he has be rejected once before?
please please can you help me im in so much mess and in desperate need foranyones help or advice! :cry:

[Moderator edit (John) : I have edited out the ridiculous colour and font size. Any repeat of that and posts will get deleted without warning.]

John, can you do the spelling and grammar as well, I find that even more offensive.

Under Article 8 of the Human Rights Act is my right not to have bad grammar and poor spelling thrust in my face in big red fonts.

[OL7MAX]

Wanderer, LOL.

On a serious note, many of the people who use these forums speak English as a second language and, however unlikely, that may be true of the OP. As such, I wouldn't hold them to the same standards I would expect of someone who has gone through a "full" British education. Someone who's studied English formally till the age of sixteen but doesn't spell "cannot" correctly is extremely annoying. True, there are some exceptions - there are those who have the euphemistically titled "special needs" like dyslexia - and my full sympathy goes out to them, particularly the ones who bother to use spell check type tools.

For everyone else, at seventeen I would expect that they'd have picked up enough English to appreciate the concept of capital letters.

Shouldn't we be extending our help to the OP rather than criticising her English? It's up to each one, I suppose. Personally, I don't feel inclined to help someone who can't be bovvered to drag herself out of her lazy l33tspeek-txtta1k. It would show great strength of character if she returned to apologise for - if nothing else - at least the font and colour.

[Christophe]

Shouldn't we be extending our help to the OP rather than criticising her English?

I'd certainly second that - the OP's English doesn't strike me as a problem in this context. Personally, too, I'd put the original colour and font down to a misjudgement rather than making it a "hanging offence", unless it was done again, of course. But probably the OP has been frightened off anyway...

[OL7MAX]

It wasn't her knowledge of English that was so much the problem but her laziness, the lack of consideration for those who may want to help and the choice of attention grabbing font and colour.

But probably the OP has been frightened off anyway...

Possibly. She's young and may take away the lesson that it pays to take a bit of trouble over important communication. Especially when it's on a life changing issue (and it's at a venue that's a one-of-a-kind).

[honey123]

dear forum,
i really didnt think i was offending people with my font, spelling, colour ... etc and im sorry if i have-truely. its the first time ive ever been on any kind of forum and just thought adding colours was... well it doesnt matter what i thought... thanks for all the help anyway was all very usefull. yes my boyfreind is from iran and i am 17 as i stated. my family are unaware of the situation as of yet...if that answers anything or makes the situation clearer..

[honey123]

sorry i also forgot to clarify that english is my first language and i did not intentionaly mean to offend readers with my bad spelling althought i am studying it A Level.. secondly i have just discovered he has permission to marry from this country

[John]

i have just discovered he has permission to marry from this country

He does? How? What form does that permission take?

In other words, what exactly is his UK immigration status?

The English! You need to do lots of study. Even the few words I have copied above are not free from error.

[ball1333]

my family are unaware of the situation as of yet...if that answers anything or makes the situation clearer..

The fact you haven't told your family that you want to get married makes me think you believe they won't approve of your plans. If your family are not supportive, you may have a very hard time for many years after you are married.

What about his family? Do they expect him to marry a nice Iranian girl at home in Iran once it's safe for him to return to his country? Remember: asylum seekers are subject to being sent home from the UK at a moment's notice of their home country is deemed 'safe' again! If he has people in Iran expecting him to return but he prefers to stay in the UK with you, his choice could create a very complicated situation for you.

If your bf's family won't approve of your relationship, your bf may have to choose between them and you. You may think he has chosen you now, but *you're* the one doing the work to try to iron out his visa issues aren't you? If he really wants to be with you, let him put forth some effort to stay in the UK legitimately.

What kind of work is he qualified to do if marrying you makes him eligible to work in the UK? Have you drawn up a detailed budget for your household expenses? What is your personal earning potential, or do you intend to be in education while he works to support you both? If that's your plan, how will your budget balance?

[honey123]

thanxu you so much ball1333 ...
well his family are fine about the marriage my families only concern will be my age, thats why am waiting till i turn 18. he is going to the home office tomorrow to tell them he wants to get married in sixth months time and if thats allowed and also if he is allowed 2 work after that.i am going to carry on with my a levels and he plans to work. ino i think im just young and foolish and have no clue to be honest what i have got myslef into. i dont no why ive been critizd so much, i mean isnt forums here for helping? anyway thanxs again.. keep posting as much as advice people its all realy usefull

[John]

he is going to the home office tomorrow to tell them he wants to get married in sixth months time and if thats allowed and also if he is allowed 2 work after that.

So he hasn't got permission to marry. He is going to ask the Home Office if he can! That is rather different, isn't it!

Suspect that he will be told to apply for a Certificate of Approval to Marry, but whilst he is still an asylum seeker, rather than a refugee, IMHO applying for the CoA would be a waste of the £295 application fee.

[honey123]

ok i spoke to my boyfreind properly and im more clear of his situation. Yes he doesn't have permission as he is an asylum seeker. Im not sure what you mean by his asylum seekers status but as far as i no, he is on weekly benefits and the government are also paying for his housing.
I want to also no if he is able to study in college/university under this condition? hopefully ill get more of a clear picture tonight as he is in the home office now.

Further, im not "ironing" out his visa issues as english is not his first language i am supporting him and guiding him with what to do. he is the one who will be facing the home office and providing for the both of us if he is granted anything...

Anyhow- if he does succeed in getting a "CoA" are there any more costs after this and what are they?

Finally, if he is refused and has to return to his home country in Iran what are the steps to be taken after that.

Many thanks once again

[honey123]

if applying for a CoA would be a waste of time, are there any other options of what to do?

[jes2jes]

if applying for a CoA would be a waste of time, are there any other options of what to do?

Go to Iran with him and get married there if that is what you really want and then he applies for a spousal visa or secondly, he goes to Iran alone and applies for a fiance visa.

Bear in mind that, the two scenerios above are likely to fail since:

1. You do not have the means to support yourself let alone another adult. You may definitely fail the test.

2. Unless he has any special skills that he can apply for a WP or HSMP, I doubt he may succeed immediately. He can look for a job in Iran and if his financial situation stabilises then he will pass the financial test unless of course, he has a massive estate way back home.

What is your boyfriends educational background and what skills does he possess? If I may ask too, how old is he?

[honey123]

he has no qualifications of anykind he just wanted to do an acess course in business managment and work part time and save his money. i cannot go to iran because this is against my parents will. i take it the situation is hopeless.

[John]

Im not sure what you mean by his asylum seekers status but as far as i no, he is on weekly benefits and the government are also paying for his housing.

This is rather central to the whole matter, isn't it! Let's take this slowly! At the time of arrival in the UK, or possibly some time later, your boyfriend applies for asylum. Question .... is that application still outstanding? Or has the Government accepted the application and granted him refugee status?

If the application is still outstanding, how far has it got in the process? Has he heard back from the Home Office? Was there a rejection? Has he appealed? If so, has the appeal been heard? If so, the result?