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I think you need to keep trying for premium service as there will be cancellations but you will have to check frequently. After the 29th if no appointment secured you will need to apply by post before visa expires. You will have over 10 days to send by post (do quickest service so HO receive before 10thsrini2k2ch wrote: ↑Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:11 pmHiFarHorizon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:57 pmHi Scotty P and Swskum - I was in the same situation with a extension of my FLR(M) but managed to luck out and book an appointment today for next week in Birmingham via the old system. Not before sending a very snotty letter to my immigration lawyer however. Apparently they're having a meeting tomorrow with senior consultants to try get some more info on the new system as they getting lots of complaints from clients. I'll report back any news. I also managed to get an email address for the HO applications support who I mailed asking how to book via the new system but waiting on a reply from them. It's applyonlinee-support@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk if you want to try. It's worth checking back on the old Premium Booking system, as frustrating as it is, in case there are cancellations. Good luck and I'll report back if I hear anything. CheersScottyP wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:15 pmHi swskum, my wife and I are in exactly the same boat and looking to get the FLR M done asap after her 30 months are up on 6th December. Ive also tried redoing the online form but still only gives postal option or premium service centre. Please could you share any news or updates you have with me and I will do the same?swskum wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:23 amHey all - I'm new here - filling in the FLR(M) for my wife's extension of leave to remain (initial application completed in June 2016). Is there any news on when the FLR(M) online form will be updated to allow the Sopra Steria system? At the moment it just gives the option for standard and premium, with no premium appointments available at all (as usual!). I redid the form from scratch this eve to ensure it wasn't the case I was using an out of date online form - but still no luck with the new service choice. Wondering whether the new system applies for the FLR(M). It looked like it did from the list (any other leave to remain category), but I'm not sure. Cheers dudes
Thanks
Scott
Anyone, please help us how to book an appointment for FLR(M) premium service we are running out of time my wife' s visa will be expiring by 10th DEC2018 trying to book an appointment from few weeks but no luck and FLR(M) is not in new service either. Please advise me how to get hold an appointment or can we post the application before the expiry date?
Yeah it is odd, but since Sopria are a third party they don't make the decision.Zrj wrote: ↑Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:35 amWhat were you applying for loupiol? It seems odd to take away the same day option for visas and ILR, but I wonder if citizenship applications will also be 3-5 days when they used to take months?
Also, did they say anything about not being able to travel while your application is being processed?
Keep constantly checking for PSC appointments. Cancellations quite often appear but they disappear in seconds, so move quickly if you see anything. Over the past few weeks I've seen a number of short-notice appointments in Croydon (2, 3 or 4 working days in advance), and I only ever check during sensible hours (8am-10pm).srini2k2ch wrote: ↑Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:07 pmHello Sir,swskum wrote: ↑Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:23 amHey all - I'm new here - filling in the FLR(M) for my wife's extension of leave to remain (initial application completed in June 2016). Is there any news on when the FLR(M) online form will be updated to allow the Sopra Steria system? At the moment it just gives the option for standard and premium, with no premium appointments available at all (as usual!). I redid the form from scratch this eve to ensure it wasn't the case I was using an out of date online form - but still no luck with the new service choice. Wondering whether the new system applies for the FLR(M). It looked like it did from the list (any other leave to remain category), but I'm not sure. Cheers dudes
I'm looking to book a premium appointment for FLR(M) for my wife's extension, her visa will be expired by 10th DEC2018. I'm trying from a few weeks but there are no slots can you please advise me any other way to book an appointment. I have gone through new service rules it seems to me FLR(M) is not included in the new service.
I missed this and have just gone online to send you a message! Great news! My husband's application is not for a few months but I want to feel knowledgable and comfortable with the process! One question I am asking is 'can you edit your application form as long as you have not paid and submitted it? Or is it that once you have completed a section, you cannot go back and make changes?' Once again, congratulations!loupiol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:05 pmHi all,
Few updates, last weekend I got a letter with the decision.
It's POSITIVE. I am now settled!
Hiccup: the letter came without the BRP.
I am now waiting for the BRP to arrive.
This was also a bit messy.
They use DX and they don't tell you when the package will arrive.
It must be signed for (for obvious reasons). They tried sending it to me but I wasn't home.
Rescheduling is done online or by phone. You can either have it resent for free but must be at the location all day time slot 9am-5pm or pay an extra GBP 7 to have it sent in the morning or in the pm at your work location.
I can't take time off work again, so paid another GBP 7... *sigh*
@michali, how did your meeting go?
By the way, on my acceptance letter, it clearly stipulates in bold letters that one must not travel outside the UK without the BRP...
I hope my experience helps everybody. Let you know if I get the BRP smoothly.
yes as long as you haven't paid you can amend the sections.michali wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:10 amI missed this and have just gone online to send you a message! Great news! My husband's application is not for a few months but I want to feel knowledgable and comfortable with the process! One question I am asking is 'can you edit your application form as long as you have not paid and submitted it? Or is it that once you have completed a section, you cannot go back and make changes?' Once again, congratulations!loupiol wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:05 pmHi all,
Few updates, last weekend I got a letter with the decision.
It's POSITIVE. I am now settled!
Hiccup: the letter came without the BRP.
I am now waiting for the BRP to arrive.
This was also a bit messy.
They use DX and they don't tell you when the package will arrive.
It must be signed for (for obvious reasons). They tried sending it to me but I wasn't home.
Rescheduling is done online or by phone. You can either have it resent for free but must be at the location all day time slot 9am-5pm or pay an extra GBP 7 to have it sent in the morning or in the pm at your work location.
I can't take time off work again, so paid another GBP 7... *sigh*
@michali, how did your meeting go?
By the way, on my acceptance letter, it clearly stipulates in bold letters that one must not travel outside the UK without the BRP...
I hope my experience helps everybody. Let you know if I get the BRP smoothly.
Hi thereloupiol wrote: ↑Thu Nov 15, 2018 7:34 pmHi everyone,
Sorry for keeping everyone waiting. Work has been very busy.
I paid for super priority service which I think is the new expedited decision?
Unfortunately, it was not a next day decision...
I just got an email saying "A decision has been made, you will hear from us in 3-5 business days".
I am still waitingtomorrow will be day 4 since the appointment!
I am a little stressed out because this e-mail is not clear. They don't say if it's yes or no...
I will try and answer each post one by one.
@Kayden636, yes you can take extra documents to upload. There's an "Others" section, Education section (that is not in the checklist...).
So I added my degree and a proof of address.
@michali, they will scan everything (every single passport page even if it's 100000 pages) don't worry! You paid for this service, they have to do it for you. I don't know if they need the sponsor passport. Is it in your document checklist?
I didn't apply with my spouse who is European and doesn't need this but if you are applying with your spouse, the center will upload all your pages. Again, you paid for this!!
Keep you postedand I am going to stay hopeful!
Hi nayeem. My wife and I are currently applying for my wife's first extension of leave to remain under the FLR(M) application. We paid on 29 November and she has her appointment on 11 December. My wife's visa is due to expire on 7 Jan 19 so her 28 days begin on 10 December.nayeem27 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:58 pmDear all
Please kindly help me who have already applied for FLR (M) through Sopra Steria (New Service)
My Visa will be expired on 08 Feb 19 , I'm planning to apply 28 days before which is about 14 Jan 19.
My question is if I submit application today (07 Dec 18) or tomorrow (08 Dec 18) after paying (Visa Fees + IHS), which one would be my application date ? Today (07 Dec 18) ? or the date when I will book an appointment for Bio-metric & show document evidences?
There is no clear instruction from UKVI or Sopra Steria...
If anyone could help that would be greatly appreciated..
Kind Regards
Nayeem
Application date is the date you submit your application and make payment.
Thanks Swskumswskum wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:35 amHi nayeem. My wife and I are currently applying for my wife's first extension of leave to remain under the FLR(M) application. We paid on 29 November and she has her appointment on 11 December. My wife's visa is due to expire on 7 Jan 19 so her 28 days begin on 10 December.nayeem27 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:58 pmDear all
Please kindly help me who have already applied for FLR (M) through Sopra Steria (New Service)
My Visa will be expired on 08 Feb 19 , I'm planning to apply 28 days before which is about 14 Jan 19.
My question is if I submit application today (07 Dec 18) or tomorrow (08 Dec 18) after paying (Visa Fees + IHS), which one would be my application date ? Today (07 Dec 18) ? or the date when I will book an appointment for Bio-metric & show document evidences?
There is no clear instruction from UKVI or Sopra Steria...
If anyone could help that would be greatly appreciated..
Kind Regards
Nayeem
The PSC rules before the change to Sopra Steria were such that you could book the appointment online and the date of "submission" for the immigration rules was the date of the appointment. With the Sopra Steria system it is ambiguous and unclear whether "submitted" is when you pay or when you go to the Sopra Steria appointment. In light of this confusion, and no published guidance by the Home Office in respect of any change to the definition of "submitted" for immigration rule purposes, I rang up the Home Office.
The first lady I spoke to said the date of submission was the date you paid for the appointment, and my wife had applied to early and had to withdraw her application with no refund. She then hung up on me... so I rang back. The second person told me that the date of submission was the date of the appointment.
For one, I knew the first lady was incorrect about the refund as I have seen people on the forums getting refunds even when the application was within the country. Secondly, I had received contradictory advice. I then spoke to an immigration lawyer for clarification. He was uncertain as he said the Sopra Steria system was so new he did not know what the rules were. When the Home Office and an immigration lawyer don't know what the rule is, it is evidently unclear. So I wrote to my MP and explained the situation, the urgency for my wife's visa for personal reasons, and the contradiction in the (lack of) definition of "submitted" for the purposes of the immigration rules.
She agreed it was unacceptable to have this uncertainty, and also not acceptable for the Home Office to change the interpretation of "submitted" without published guidance. She spoke to the Home Office and they said to her that our application would be fine. We are going to have our Sopra Steria appointment on 11 Dec and I will let you know how it goes. If we are successful then the interpretation is clear - you can pay for your application before the 28 days starts so long as you go to your appointment during the 28 day period. Regardless of the situation though, if you can avoid applying early and just wait until you are in the 28 day period, that would be easier (assuming you have no urgent need for the visa, unlike we do as we are flying back to my wife's country for Christmas as her mum is ill).
I have also submitted a FOI request so their response on this matter is public - to reduce the uncertainty out there at the moment. https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ng-1274844 is the link. Although it doesn't have the answer yet, by the second week of January it should have been responded to.
I'm trying my best to clear this up for everyone and hopefully I will be able to provide you some further clarity in the next week (give or take!).
Hey Nayeem, yes it's good to have someone else in the same boat!nayeem27 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:50 amDear Swskum
Many thanks for kind and elaborate information, I am so glad that I was seeking answer in this group. Your situation is exactly same as mine. It's such a shame for the sophisticated home office for publishing a new portal without any guidance... (Maybe they wanted us to hire solicitors , although solicitors are also uncertain)
However, I have already paid IHS because I couldn't able to predict what will come after IHS payment. Although I haven't paid my Visa fees yet because I got same answer from home office when I called yesterday and incompetent people replied from previous experience.
Please kindly let me know what will happen after 11 dec 18.
Again a big thanks
Dear Swskum, Did you upload documents using the Sopra Steria service? If you did, may I ask, when using the upload service, if I can upload a single PDF file with multiple pages or only 1 Page per PDF file. For example I will be uploading all the pages of my passport. Can I upload 1 PDF with all 28 passport pages OR separate 28 PDF documents?swskum wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:02 pmHey Nayeem, yes it's good to have someone else in the same boat!nayeem27 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:50 amDear Swskum
Many thanks for kind and elaborate information, I am so glad that I was seeking answer in this group. Your situation is exactly same as mine. It's such a shame for the sophisticated home office for publishing a new portal without any guidance... (Maybe they wanted us to hire solicitors , although solicitors are also uncertain)
However, I have already paid IHS because I couldn't able to predict what will come after IHS payment. Although I haven't paid my Visa fees yet because I got same answer from home office when I called yesterday and incompetent people replied from previous experience.
Please kindly let me know what will happen after 11 dec 18.
Again a big thanks
See my post just above this - we got the leave to remain granted! From discussion I had with my MP, who spoke to the Home Office, she said the Home Office said they would show a level of leniency for people who apply before the last 28 day period. What the Home Office said to her - and I wouldn't rely on this too much -was that the 28 day period was designed so that people didn't apply ridiculously too early and have two overlapping visas for a long time (whether that is technically correct I query but besides the point!).
Now I don't know what to make of this, but what I would say is where you can avoid it, try not to apply more than 28 days before the beginning of the 28 days (i.e. no earlier than 56 days before the current visa runs out). I think at that point they may get stricter - although it is hard to tell.But applying a week earlier than the beginning of your last 28 day period is probably OK.
On timing, if you have paid for your IHS, that's fine, as you haven't paid for the appointment itself. Hold off on paying for the application (and the appointment you then have to book on the Sopra Steria page) until nearer 14 January. I think your application will be absolutely fine so far, at least know there is a degree of flexibility.
On the IHS - are you aware that the government is increasing the IHS amount to a (quite honestly outrageous) larger amount? They are doubling it, so what was £200 per year is now £400 per year etc. That means £1000 for the FLR(M) extension rather than £500. I am not sure what that will mean for your IHS given you have paid for it. I have done a little bit of digging for you. The progress of the order bringing into force the larger IHS payment shouldn't come into force until the earliest 10 January at the moment (and that assumes it is formalised tomorrow which is unlikely!). In any event, 10 January is only 4 days before your 28 day period. Given this, if I were you I would be minded to pay for my full application and book my appointment in early January (a week early), and worry more on the timing of the IHS increase than the worry of applying early, so you can ensure you save yourself an extra IHS payment of £500. You can see the status of the current order here: https://beta.parliament.uk/statutory-in ... s/qN5SIpKr. It is waiting to become law and then 28 days from the day it becomes law the increased fees will come into effect.
So to summarise - what you have done so far is fine, I'd recommend given the change to the IHS that you guys pay for your app and book your biometric appointment at the beginning of the second week of Jan (if the order goes through in the next week), or pay for your app and book your biometric appointment on 14 Jan (if they don't approve the order increasing IHS by 17 Dec)!
