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Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:10 pm

Thanks
They got back to me today asking for a DNA test from child and other biological parent.
That's insane if you ask me...they should have asked for that on the beginning...what a waste of time!!!

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by asadbhatti99978 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 pm

Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:10 pm
Thanks
They got back to me today asking for a DNA test from child and other biological parent.
That's insane if you ask me...they should have asked for that on the beginning...what a waste of time!!!
Resident unit 4 just waste people time
They ask DNA test when they don't find any excuse
So now your are almost there do DNA ASAP when you done DNA exect after with in 4 to 6 weeks you will get decision
Good luck 🤞

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm

asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:10 pm
Thanks
They got back to me today asking for a DNA test from child and other biological parent.
That's insane if you ask me...they should have asked for that on the beginning...what a waste of time!!!
Resident unit 4 just waste people time
They ask DNA test when they don't find any excuse
So now your are almost there do DNA ASAP when you done DNA exect after with in 4 to 6 weeks you will get decision
Good luck 🤞
Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??

asadbhatti99978
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by asadbhatti99978 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am

Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:10 pm
Thanks
They got back to me today asking for a DNA test from child and other biological parent.
That's insane if you ask me...they should have asked for that on the beginning...what a waste of time!!!
Resident unit 4 just waste people time
They ask DNA test when they don't find any excuse
So now your are almost there do DNA ASAP when you done DNA exect after with in 4 to 6 weeks you will get decision
Good luck 🤞
Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??
it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
[/quote]

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm

asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:10 pm
Thanks
They got back to me today asking for a DNA test from child and other biological parent.
That's insane if you ask me...they should have asked for that on the beginning...what a waste of time!!!
Resident unit 4 just waste people time
They ask DNA test when they don't find any excuse
So now your are almost there do DNA ASAP when you done DNA exect after with in 4 to 6 weeks you will get decision
Good luck 🤞
Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??
it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
[/quote]
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!

asadbhatti99978
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by asadbhatti99978 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:28 pm

Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 pm


Resident unit 4 just waste people time
They ask DNA test when they don't find any excuse
So now your are almost there do DNA ASAP when you done DNA exect after with in 4 to 6 weeks you will get decision
Good luck 🤞
Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??
it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!
[/quote]
Simple is that they don't believe you have geniean relationship with other boilogical parent so your aplication is behalf of your irish child so they want to make sure the irish child is yours that's all matter
You can't argument with them thanks

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by BobDuru » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm

Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:31 pm

BobDuru wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck
Thanks
I already booked it and going tomorrow morning after being told on Monday it's requested.

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by BobDuru » Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:10 pm

Best of luck
You will be Victorious

Keviabella
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Keviabella » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:06 pm

Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:31 pm
BobDuru wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck
Thanks
I already booked it and going tomorrow morning after being told on Monday it's requested.
Best of luck. Hope it all goes great for you

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:15 pm

Keviabella wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:06 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:31 pm
BobDuru wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck
Thanks
I already booked it and going tomorrow morning after being told on Monday it's requested.
Best of luck. Hope it all goes great for you
Any news on your application?

Keviabella
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Keviabella » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:27 pm

Amaizac wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:15 pm
Keviabella wrote:
Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:06 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:31 pm
BobDuru wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck
Thanks
I already booked it and going tomorrow morning after being told on Monday it's requested.
Best of luck. Hope it all goes great for you
Any news on your application?
None yet. Other than an acknowledgement letter, i have not received any other correspondence since I submitted my additional information/documents as requested

Keviabella
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Keviabella » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:29 pm

Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:31 pm
BobDuru wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck
Thanks
I already booked it and going tomorrow morning after being told on Monday it's requested.
That's great that you were able to secure a really quick appointment. How much is the DNA test and was a representative from the residency unit present ?

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:31 pm

Keviabella wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:29 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:31 pm
BobDuru wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
Everything is going to be fine.
Just make sure you do the DNA as requested by the minister of justice via a court approved DNA testing centre.
Morealso, try to look for a quick appointment for the DNA test.
It usually costs 600 euros
After testing, your results will be out in 2 weeks after which a copy of the DNA results will be forwarded to you and the Residence DIVISION for verification and onwards approval.

I wish you Goodluck
Thanks
I already booked it and going tomorrow morning after being told on Monday it's requested.
That's great that you were able to secure a really quick appointment. How much is the DNA test and was a representative from the residency unit present ?
It was like 590 euros.
No representative apparently since covid no one from the unit comes

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:00 pm

asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:28 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm


Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??
it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!
Simple is that they don't believe you have geniean relationship with other boilogical parent so your aplication is behalf of your irish child so they want to make sure the irish child is yours that's all matter
You can't argument with them thanks
[/quote]

What's funny is that the test is between the father and him as they know I'm the mother

Keviabella
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Keviabella » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:35 pm

Amaizac wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:00 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:28 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am


it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!
Simple is that they don't believe you have geniean relationship with other boilogical parent so your aplication is behalf of your irish child so they want to make sure the irish child is yours that's all matter
You can't argument with them thanks
What's funny is that the test is between the father and him as they know I'm the mother
[/quote]

DNA test is often for fathers, not mothers, to ascertain they are truly the father, (and not just a name included on the birth certificate )except there is doubt that a mother did truly birth her baby but that's unlikely in Irish hospitals

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:47 pm

Keviabella wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:35 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:00 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:28 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!
Simple is that they don't believe you have geniean relationship with other boilogical parent so your aplication is behalf of your irish child so they want to make sure the irish child is yours that's all matter
You can't argument with them thanks
What's funny is that the test is between the father and him as they know I'm the mother
DNA test is often for fathers, not mothers, to ascertain they are truly the father, (and not just a name included on the birth certificate )except there is doubt that a mother did truly birth her baby but that's unlikely in Irish hospitals
[/quote]
Yup but I'm the one making the application not the father.. but anyway they said they don't think it's a subsisting relationship as we don't live together and he has other kids but never been married...I just think sometimes they just wanna frustrate the applicant

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by malikmahmood » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:34 am

Hi I am mahmood
I also apply on the basis of IBC
in February 2019 I give them all documents what they ask even DNA as well
Here I want explain more for my self
I got stamp eu fame in 2015 which was revoked by D Jutice 2 time My wife is European we together around three years and then we get separated and she is not living in the state any more
We are not divorced yet
After this I met with an Irish girl we start living together we have 2 kids
Now recently they send me a letter and asking about my relation with European wife or did take any action or what is the status of our relation
I don’t have any contact with her
So any one can please who understand my situation and advise me about or what steps I need to take now

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by malikmahmood » Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:45 am

Hi friends please guide it’s urgent
I got married in 2015 with European girl have a stamp eu fame which was revoked in 2017 we get separated but never divorced
After this I met with an Irish girl we start living together we have kids in 2019 in month of February I again apply on the basis of IBC I give them all supporting docs including DNA but they keep asking on and on and now
Recently they ask to me about the relation with my wife who is European and she is not living in the state any more and we are not divorced and I am job less as well please guide me thanks kind regards

Keviabella
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Keviabella » Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:32 am

malikmahmood wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:45 am
Hi friends please guide it’s urgent
I got married in 2015 with European girl have a stamp eu fame which was revoked in 2017 we get separated but never divorced
After this I met with an Irish girl we start living together we have kids in 2019 in month of February I again apply on the basis of IBC I give them all supporting docs including DNA but they keep asking on and on and now
Recently they ask to me about the relation with my wife who is European and she is not living in the state any more and we are not divorced and I am job less as well please guide me thanks kind regards
You may need a solicitor to guide you better.
However I know someone who was in similar situation over 6 years ago but got his residency.
He was married to an irish lady, got eu family but they separated and he couldn't renew his stamp, hence he became undocumented. He got together with another irish girl and they had a baby which allowed him to apply with zambrano. They asked for a lot of documents and explanation as to his first wife and he had to explain that sadly, the marriage was over and they have been living apart since (state the year). They were not on good terms and had no contact with each other. Moreso, because he had no contact with her and no job, he couldn't begin the process of divorce nor could he afford divorce as it's a costly process in Ireland.
Then further explained that he is not married to his new partner but they have a rerelationship, they live together and have a child together whom he contributes to her financial ,physical and emotional care.
Although since you say you are jobless, you would have to show how you are surviving in the state and how you are contributing to your child(ren)'s upkeep.

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by malikmahmood » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:04 am

I recently quit my job because I have rights to do a job in state but last three years I was doing job and they knows
Now I spending all my time with my kids and with partner we live together and now you can say I am just playing emotional role or just look after them and an other thing I explain them three different time about my previous relation we are not in contact to last three years and she is not even living in state as well but they still keep asking for her

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by asadbhatti99978 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:44 am

malikmahmood wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:45 am
Hi friends please guide it’s urgent
I got married in 2015 with European girl have a stamp eu fame which was revoked in 2017 we get separated but never divorced
After this I met with an Irish girl we start living together we have kids in 2019 in month of February I again apply on the basis of IBC I give them all supporting docs including DNA but they keep asking on and on and now
Recently they ask to me about the relation with my wife who is European and she is not living in the state any more and we are not divorced and I am job less as well please guide me thanks kind regards
Listen Mr Malik residence unit 4 just waist people time they ask unnecessary things one thing did you let them know when you had separate from eu wife. The reason is eufam stamp was revoked so that's why they are asking those question .so now you have to hire good solicitor who I'll fight for your case other they will delayed your case years and years.
Here is my email contect me by email email address removed by moderaror
So next I I'll discuss this matter thanks

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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Keviabella » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:23 pm

malikmahmood wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:04 am
I recently quit my job because I have rights to do a job in state but last three years I was doing job and they knows
Now I spending all my time with my kids and with partner we live together and now you can say I am just playing emotional role or just look after them and an other thing I explain them three different time about my previous relation we are not in contact to last three years and she is not even living in state as well but they still keep asking for her
It's normal that they ask the same question repeatedly, sometimes very annoying too but be persistent in your response and it might be best if you spoke to an immigration solicitor like Brian Burns, they might be able to give you better advise since they handle lots of applications and immigration legality quite often.
Best of luck

Amaizac
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Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:27 pm

asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:28 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm


Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??
it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!
Simple is that they don't believe you have geniean relationship with other boilogical parent so your aplication is behalf of your irish child so they want to make sure the irish child is yours that's all matter
You can't argument with them thanks
[/quote]

I have just received my DNA results and it's a positive response. Now how long until the department gets back to me roughly?
Thanks

Amaizac
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Zimbabwe

Re: IBC (Zambrano)

Post by Amaizac » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:27 pm

asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:28 pm
Amaizac wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
asadbhatti99978 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am
Amaizac wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:16 pm


Thanks.
Does the ruling of zambrano have anything to do with the relationship between the biological parents or is it just the role of the parent in the child's life??
it is just the role of the parent in the child's life
Nothing to do with other biological parent
as long as you play the role of your irish citizen child
Thanks for that.
But the reason I have to go for a DNA test is cause they say that the relationship with the other parent is not a subsisting relationship. Which is pathetic?!
Simple is that they don't believe you have geniean relationship with other boilogical parent so your aplication is behalf of your irish child so they want to make sure the irish child is yours that's all matter
You can't argument with them thanks
[/quote]

I have just received my DNA results and it's a positive response. Now how long until the department gets back to me roughly?
Thanks

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