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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by ahmedemz » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:36 pm

hi , all I am new to this group. need a bit advice as I gave toeic on 2011 can't remember wat was the fees , but I know which college I gave exam and exam structure as I gave the exam myself .then I was illegal from 2012 to 2015 . then got visa on human rights ground family route on 10 years route from court , went for holiday on the way back stopped me in the airport for 5 minutes , told me they need to check something , then told me after few extension there Ll be no problem . then last December went for same day service , they said they have to do further checks and still no response from them . is there anyone here whose case is similar to me .please let me know .thanks .

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by yasir527 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:35 pm

Hi all
After 6 month UTT grant permission to home office for appeal against FTT judge decision.
But grant of appeal was not given on toiec base thats starnge as they grant permission if appealent goes back home country so its against article 8 .But we never argue or asked for visa in article 8 .
Very strange and totally wrong let see what happnd in july .
Will
Update on it

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Rabilal123 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 am

Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal

Kalex
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:07 pm

hi guys,

I can't see any thread about the cost involved in such type of cases.

Those who have got their decision or still fighting, could you guys please share the money spent.

thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by anabat22 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:19 am

Rabilal123 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 am
Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal
Hello Rabilal, the agreement is not only between Islam and Hossain, the proposal will be sent to all who are waiting for this jusdgement. Who doesn’t have any type of appeal right. So, why are you upset? I was there and heard the hearing. Mr Biggs and knaffler was leading the case.

We (NGO, media, MPs and toeic affected migrants) are going to the parliament next week to raise this issue...... if you would like to join us please come. I would also like to invite anyone who is reading this post please let me know your interest and send me personal message. Please join us on twitter and Facebook regarding toeic issue.

It will be our last attempt to go to the parliament and raise our voice to end this battle... so please come

Ana

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:20 pm

anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:19 am
Rabilal123 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 am
Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal
Hello Rabilal, the agreement is not only between Islam and Hossain, the proposal will be sent to all who are waiting for this jusdgement. Who doesn’t have any type of appeal right. So, why are you upset? I was there and heard the hearing. Mr Biggs and knaffler was leading the case.

We (NGO, media, MPs and toeic affected migrants) are going to the parliament next week to raise this issue...... if you would like to join us please come. I would also like to invite anyone who is reading this post please let me know your interest and send me personal message. Please join us on twitter and Facebook regarding toeic issue.

It will be our last attempt to go to the parliament and raise our voice to end this battle... so please come

Ana
Could you please summarize the proposal here.


Thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by anabat22 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:19 pm

Kalex wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:20 pm
anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:19 am
Rabilal123 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 am
Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal
Hello Rabilal, the agreement is not only between Islam and Hossain, the proposal will be sent to all who are waiting for this jusdgement. Who doesn’t have any type of appeal right. So, why are you upset? I was there and heard the hearing. Mr Biggs and knaffler was leading the case.

We (NGO, media, MPs and toeic affected migrants) are going to the parliament next week to raise this issue...... if you would like to join us please come. I would also like to invite anyone who is reading this post please let me know your interest and send me personal message. Please join us on twitter and Facebook regarding toeic issue.

It will be our last attempt to go to the parliament and raise our voice to end this battle... so please come

Ana
Could you please summarize the proposal here.


Thanks
Proposal will be sent out on individual basis. HO didn't tell at that time.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by ahmedemz » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:06 pm

anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:19 am
Rabilal123 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 am
Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal
Hello Rabilal, the agreement is not only between Islam and Hossain, the proposal will be sent to all who are waiting for this jusdgement. Who doesn’t have any type of appeal right. So, why are you upset? I was there and heard the hearing. Mr Biggs and knaffler was leading the case.

We (NGO, media, MPs and toeic affected migrants) are going to the parliament next week to raise this issue...... if you would like to join us please come. I would also like to invite anyone who is reading this post please let me know your interest and send me personal message. Please join us on twitter and Facebook regarding toeic issue.

It will be our last attempt to go to the parliament and raise our voice to end this battle... so please come

Ana


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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by CR001 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:33 pm

ahmedemz wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:06 pm
I would like to go .please contact mobile number removed by moderator
I strongly suggest you read the forum rules, as you were required to do when registering to join the forum. Personal contact information is not permitted to be posted on the forum.
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:23 am

hi guys,

My ILR has rejected recently because of TOEIC but I didn't get the right of appeal just the AR.

Can anyone advice me if not everyone is getting the appeal right?

thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by CR001 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:26 am

Kalex wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:23 am
hi guys,

My ILR has rejected recently because of TOEIC but I didn't get the right of appeal just the AR.

Can anyone advice me if not everyone is getting the appeal right?

thanks
You should post ILR queries in the ILR sub forum and not in this topic.

Certain routes for ILR do not get appeal rights so it depends on what basis you have applied which is why you should not post these question in this specific ETS topic.
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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:37 am

This is a Toeic based refusal hence I asked it here. I saw people who are not student discussed their toeic refusal in this thread.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by avatar12 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:45 am

Hi,

I have a similar issue my wife is British national, my extension for ilr was refused due to toiec deception in Nov 2016 , got a date in May 2018 in FTT after a long wait. My appeal was dismissed by FTT based on Toiec however it was allowed on human grounds. Article 8.

Received a letter last week that home office seeking permission to FTT for an appeal to UTT.

I don't understand on what grounds ? As my appeal is already dismissed based on toiec by FTT it's been allowed only on human grounds.

Thanks

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by allain » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:52 am

avatar12 wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:45 am
Hi,

I have a similar issue my wife is British national, my extension for ilr was refused due to toiec deception in Nov 2016 , got a date in May 2018 in FTT after a long wait. My appeal was dismissed by FTT based on Toiec however it was allowed on human grounds. Article 8.

Received a letter last week that home office seeking permission to FTT for an appeal to UTT.

I don't understand on what grounds ? As my appeal is already dismissed based on toiec by FTT it's been allowed only on human grounds.

Thanks
Thanks for update , i am similar case, i am going to apply for ILR this week with Toeic issue, let see wht will happen .

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by allain » Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:46 am

avatar12 wrote:
Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:45 am
Hi,

I have a similar issue my wife is British national, my extension for ilr was refused due to toiec deception in Nov 2016 , got a date in May 2018 in FTT after a long wait. My appeal was dismissed by FTT based on Toiec however it was allowed on human grounds. Article 8.

Received a letter last week that home office seeking permission to FTT for an appeal to UTT.

I don't understand on what grounds ? As my appeal is already dismissed based on toiec by FTT it's been allowed only on human grounds.

Thanks

Can i ask you why your appeal was dismissed?

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by avatar12 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:47 am

It was dismissed as the judge wasn’t satisfied with the answers which I gave based on toiec

It was dismissed by judge only the fact and finding.

However She did allow my appeal based on human ground as my wife being British National

I don’t know on what grounds Home office seeking permission to appeal to UTT? As my appeal is allowed on human grounds and not on toiec

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Vasudev1987 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:35 pm

Hi can any body please help

I given the toiec test on 2012 for extend my student visa but unfortunately student visa refuse

I was send back to india 2015 and get entry clearance and got spouse visa 33 month which was expired on 2018 jun

In the mean time I was applied for my extend spouse visa but they was refused because they blame me I was did froud in 2012 about toiec

And they refuse me spouse visa I have one son he is British passports holder and my wife is British citizen

Can any body help I will win the appeal or not thx

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by anabat22 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:59 pm

Vasudev1987 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:35 pm
Hi can any body please help

I given the toiec test on 2012 for extend my student visa but unfortunately student visa refuse

I was send back to india 2015 and get entry clearance and got spouse visa 33 month which was expired on 2018 jun

In the mean time I was applied for my extend spouse visa but they was refused because they blame me I was did froud in 2012 about toiec

And they refuse me spouse visa I have one son he is British passports holder and my wife is British citizen

Can any body help I will win the appeal or not thx
Hopefully, your appeal will be allowed on human grounds. Have you given the right of appeal? Based on all previous post, people who are married and have kids in the UK their appeal allowed on human grounds.

Wish you all the best

Ana

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Vasudev1987 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:04 pm

Hello ana thx very much

Yes I have a right of appeal
And one thing more if I win will that’s adjust me on 5 year route not in 10 year route because I was in 5 year route thx Anastasia god bless you

Pleasereply

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by anabat22 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:15 pm

Vasudev1987 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:04 pm
Hello ana thx very much

Yes I have a right of appeal
And one thing more if I win will that’s adjust me on 5 year route not in 10 year route because I was in 5 year route thx Anastasia god bless you

Pleasereply
As per my understanding 5 year route should not be affected as it is nothing to do with the refusal. If you clear your allegation Home Office will put you on the same route as you were before at the time of refusal. Again, I said as per my knowledge, please consult two to three solicitors and take their opinion.

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Kalex » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:15 pm

anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 3:19 pm
Kalex wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:20 pm
anabat22 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:19 am
Rabilal123 wrote:
Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 am
Hello Ana, Hossain & islam have been heard on COA. Basically those cases for No appeal right holders.Home office and Those guys reached on mutual agreement .I dont know what happens to hundreads of ETS litigations which were relied on them.I am really upset when people can afford expensive legal advice will win the case.Thanks
Hello RaBilal
Hello Rabilal, the agreement is not only between Islam and Hossain, the proposal will be sent to all who are waiting for this jusdgement. Who doesn’t have any type of appeal right. So, why are you upset? I was there and heard the hearing. Mr Biggs and knaffler was leading the case.

We (NGO, media, MPs and toeic affected migrants) are going to the parliament next week to raise this issue...... if you would like to join us please come. I would also like to invite anyone who is reading this post please let me know your interest and send me personal message. Please join us on twitter and Facebook regarding toeic issue.

It will be our last attempt to go to the parliament and raise our voice to end this battle... so please come

Ana
Could you please summarize the proposal here.


Thanks
Proposal will be sent out on individual basis. HO didn't tell at that time.
Do you have any idea when the decision expected?

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by Vasudev1987 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:35 pm

Hi Scott please help me my case same like you I did toiec in 2012

I was married in uk 2015 got entry cleareance and obtain spouse visa which was expired on
Jun 2018 was applied for flrm but they was refused because I was toiec victim and it’s not my voice they said
I just apeal against this matter and also I have twi year son British citizen

Will I win this apeak and how long take please advice

Thank you very much

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by avatar12 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:40 pm

avatar12 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:47 am
It was dismissed as the judge wasn’t satisfied with the answers which I gave based on toiec

It was dismissed by judge only the fact and finding.

However She did allow my appeal based on human ground as my wife being British National

I don’t know on what grounds Home office seeking permission to appeal to UTT? As my appeal is allowed on human grounds and not on toiec
Any update on this plz ?

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by allain » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:55 am

avatar12 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:40 pm
avatar12 wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:47 am
It was dismissed as the judge wasn’t satisfied with the answers which I gave based on toiec

It was dismissed by judge only the fact and finding.

However She did allow my appeal based on human ground as my wife being British National

I don’t know on what grounds Home office seeking permission to appeal to UTT? As my appeal is allowed on human grounds and not on toiec
Any update on this plz ?

Hi can you please tell which question did they ask you in FTT then UTT and then JR regarding TOEIC.
Thanks,

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Re: Victims of ETS Scam

Post by vinny » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:46 am

Home Office urged to let ‘cheating’ students resit language tests wrote:The Home Office accused more than 35,000 students of cheating in 2014 in the English-language proficiency tests some are required to take as part of their visa application process.
Home Office urged to let ‘cheating’ students resit language tests wrote:A spokesperson said: “In February 2014, investigations into the abuse of English-language testing revealed systemic cheating, which was indicative of large-scale organised fraud. The government took immediate robust action on this, which has been measured and proportionate, and so far more than 20 people have received criminal convictions for their role in this deception.
More than 20 people convicted from more than 35,000 accused? Proportionate?
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