SEPTEMBER-08 TIER-1 APPLICANTS

[shiva_jaime]

Thanks Deepindar,

FYI., As you said I suppose to submit the payslip with stamped and signed by the Employer. While trying to get it, my HR said, he will not attest the Payslip and company policy is "he or she should resign and relieve, then they should apply for Tier-1".
If they come to know if he/she apply for Tier-1 while in current job, he/she will be terminated from the company. And they said they will not give attestation till I relieve. I have rest of the documents ready with me except the attested payslips.
Could you suggest me on what to do further? Is it any way to get BHC approval for this?
Do you know the BHC chennai region email ID?
Also would like to know if I will not in job during Tier-1 process like Integra verification, will it be any problem in progressing my Tier-1?

Thanks,
Shiva

[shobana]

HI All,

I had applied today for Tier 1. Could you please tell me if it is mandatory to show STAY EVIDENCE as part of the application process. Since the application form or guidence sheet never mentioned anythg about the stay I had not even thought this detail would be required.

Please help me with these questions.
1. Currently I have not submitted any STAY proof for the same. Will my Visa be rejected for the same.
2. If rejected will my Passport be stamped with rejection seal.
3. Is there a way to send additional information after applying. For example can I send the Hotel Online Booking confirmation to any email id which they can consider or CAN we meet VFS center again and provide these documents to them.

HELP greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Shobz

[sandeep.momula]

Hi guys,

I lost my appointment letter from my current employer. However i've a duplicate. will it work? Please suggest.

[deepinder7090]

Shiva,
kindly call me on 9878828009

SHOBANA,

you do not have to show any accomodation proof . It will not effect your application .
2) There is no rejection seal it will be only a entry which shows a date of arrivalof your passport at embassy.
3) There is no way that you can submitt extra docs you can just write to high commission and explain the case and attatch the print out of the booking with the cover letter. Do mention your App.Ref. No at the front of the courrier.
I do not gaurantee you that they will except the docs but you never know as you do not have any option left with you .
You can go to the VFS and submitted the same if the the agree to except the same .

SANDEEP,

definately sir it will work, they just need to verify that are you working with the same organization and recieving the salary as mentioned.
desigination ,date of joining ,location are the other info which they required as per the integra verification goes on.



regards,
deepinder

[newbie01]

I am a WP holder in UK , my wife is also a work permit holder here, can she apply as a dependent on me in the same application when
I applying for Tier1?

However the homeoffice site states:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... dantroute/

This page explains the circumstances in which you can apply for
permission to stay here as the dependant of someone who is already
here in the highly skilled worker category (Tier 1 General) without
having to leave the United Kingdom and apply for entry clearance
(permission to come to the United Kingdom).

How you can switch in to the dependant route
You can apply for permission to stay here as the dependant of a highly
skilled worker without having to leave the United Kingdom and apply
for entry clearance if your last grant of entry clearance or
permission to stay here was as the partner or child of:

an innovator;
a participant in the Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland Scheme;
a participant in the International Graduates Scheme (or the previous
Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme);
a postgraduate doctor or dentist,
a student;
a student nurse;
a student re-sitting an examination;
a student writing up a thesis; or
a work permit holder.

[shiva_jaime]

Deepinder,
Thanks for ur contact no#.
I tried reaching u just now.
Please let me know ur availability. My contact mail is: "shiva_jaime@gmail.com"


Thanks,
Shiva

[quote="deepinder7090"]Shiva,
kindly call me on 9878828009

SHOBANA,

you do not have to show any accomodation proof . It will not effect your application .
2) There is no rejection seal it will be only a entry which shows a date of arrivalof your passport at embassy.
3) There is no way that you can submitt extra docs you can just write to high commission and explain the case and attatch the print out of the booking with the cover letter. Do mention your App.Ref. No at the front of the courrier.
I do not gaurantee you that they will except the docs but you never know as you do not have any option left with you .
You can go to the VFS and submitted the same if the the agree to except the same .

SANDEEP,

definately sir it will work, they just need to verify that are you working with the same organization and recieving the salary as mentioned.
desigination ,date of joining ,location are the other info which they required as per the integra verification goes on.



regards,
deepinder[/quote]

[Sep08T1Applicant]

Hi NewBie,

Homeoffice replied me with "Simple NO" as my wife is not my dependant.

If your wife is your's dependant then she is eligible to apply with you otherwise she has to go back and seek EC.

I am a WP holder in UK , my wife is also a work permit holder here, can she apply as a dependent on me in the same application when
I applying for Tier1?

However the homeoffice site states:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/worki ... dantroute/

This page explains the circumstances in which you can apply for
permission to stay here as the dependant of someone who is already
here in the highly skilled worker category (Tier 1 General) without
having to leave the United Kingdom and apply for entry clearance
(permission to come to the United Kingdom).

How you can switch in to the dependant route
You can apply for permission to stay here as the dependant of a highly
skilled worker without having to leave the United Kingdom and apply
for entry clearance if your last grant of entry clearance or
permission to stay here was as the partner or child of:

an innovator;
a participant in the Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland Scheme;
a participant in the International Graduates Scheme (or the previous
Science and Engineering Graduates Scheme);
a postgraduate doctor or dentist,
a student;
a student nurse;
a student re-sitting an examination;
a student writing up a thesis; or
a work permit holder.

[mjmani]

Shiva_jaime,
Can you try to get Earnings_Statement on company stationery for the required period? You need not go to HR for this, Finance team should be able to give you this and they are authorized to sign, seal as well. You can mention that you need this to apply for Housing Loan or you can say that you are co-signing your father's loan.
Best of luck! Normally a company policy CAN NOT have this kind of clause. It is illegal. If you want to fight it out, you can legally, but the whole purpose here is not that, it is about you getting Tier 1 approved. Sorry friend, I can only suggest you talk to your HR in a friendly manner that you are not trying to leave the company now, but may be later next year.

[shiva_jaime]

Dear Mani,
Thanks for ur advice.
Initially I was stated to HR that I am trying to get the attestation to apply home loan. But he said that people using this attestation for HSMP and no bank was asking for attested payslips. He might be fooling me that its HR policy of the company that people shouldnt apply for job while he is employed with this current company and applying HSMP is equivalent to this. Knowing if he/she apply for HSMP before relieve from company (3months notice period), HR would initiate disciplinary action and terminate from job. So I was scared and resigned the job to count my relieving dates in a friendly manner.
I am totally confused what to do further. At this time, I have to speak to higher management on this to get this done and sure that they also the deny this. Waiting for my good luck.
Could you suggest me something on this.
Thanks,
Shiva

[quote="mjmani"]Shiva_jaime,
Can you try to get Earnings_Statement on company stationery for the required period? You need not go to HR for this, Finance team should be able to give you this and they are authorized to sign, seal as well. You can mention that you need this to apply for Housing Loan or you can say that you are co-signing your father's loan.
Best of luck! Normally a company policy CAN NOT have this kind of clause. It is illegal. If you want to fight it out, you can legally, but the whole purpose here is not that, it is about you getting Tier 1 approved. Sorry friend, I can only suggest you talk to your HR in a friendly manner that you are not trying to leave the company now, but may be later next year.[/quote]

[mjmani]

Payslips and Bank Statements are two different sources of evidences. If payslips can not be attained, can Shiva do the following?
1) Get Bank Statements
2) Get a statement from Chartered Account that so and so is his earning for the given period
3) Also provide Payslips without company seal & sign. Explain clearly in Section 7 of VAF9 form AND in your Covering letter) the exact true reason for not being able to provide signed sealed payslips

I am confident you will get thru this hurdle.

Gurus, help please...

[shiva_jaime]

Dear Mani,
Thanks for your suggestion and help, and it surprises me of another way to apply.
For your information, yesterday I spoke to VFS customer service about this. They clearly stated that payslips with attestation is the one of the main evidence for the previous earning and if not meeting this, BHC might reject the application.
Also I spoke to deepinder (subscriber of this forum) on this. He also clearly stated that application would be rejected.
Let us see what can do further. And again I am planning to negotiate to my management. Lets see how it works...

Others,
Please share your thoughts also...

Thanks,
Siva

[quote="mjmani"]Payslips and Bank Statements are two different sources of evidences. If payslips can not be attained, can Shiva do the following?
1) Get Bank Statements
2) Get a statement from Chartered Account that so and so is his earning for the given period
3) Also provide Payslips without company seal & sign. Explain clearly in Section 7 of VAF9 form AND in your Covering letter) the exact true reason for not being able to provide signed sealed payslips

I am confident you will get thru this hurdle.

Gurus, help please...[/quote]

[kanwar25]

shiva
i understand your concern but we don't make our own policies and guidliens. It as per the BHC guidlines which we have to adhere and if not then we have to face the concequences .

ECO are very strict about the guidlines and moreover if you search the form people applications has been rejected on the basis that they have not provided the exact wordings which is required in the maintanence fund letter.

My suggestion would be if you can provide IT RETURNS which should also correlate with your earnings you recieved

My suggestion are on the basis of my experience ie from the last 1 year i am searching this forms on the differents forms of rejections and approvals


regards,

[ramgsk]

Let's see how does it go
Applied Tier1 from Hyderabad office yesterday September 15

Timelines
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Application Date : 15-Sep-08


Will keep you posted on the timelines and the documents submitted

Some observations for going to VFS center
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• Get Demand Draft, if you come with cash then it is another queue inside for paying the cash, and then you would be given token for application submission, paying the cash at the counter in this busy season (Student season for September intake), took me 2 hours after I have entered inside, instead if we have DD the time we enter in we will be given a token number for submission, that way we can save a lot of time. This token number is a sequence number, if you delay for cash you will get a bigger number and you might have to wait until your turn for submission, I think I lost around 3 hours in that by paying in cash and have got a bigger token number
• Get an appointment booked, otherwise you have to spend a lot of time in the queue outside (again in this busy September intake season for students, you might end up standing in queue for more than an hour outside the center)
• Get Xerox of every copy of document you are submitting, filled in application form, even pay slips and bank statements
• Get Photo exactly as in the site http://www.vfs-uk-in.com/images/photo.jpg , showing whole of your face, should be OK if it shows neck, need not show shoulders[/img]

[Shubhi]

Hi All

I am having a trouble getting statements from my bank as it will take atleast 7 working days to provide me with the same. Can I submit online statements?Do I need to get the statements stamped from the bank?

Do I need 3 seperate sets of statements? One of 12 months,another one of 3 months and one for Integra or only one 12 months statement will do?

Do I need to submit my original documents with Integra form or the photocopies will do?

Please suggest....

Thanks

[Shubhi]

Can someone help me with the contents of 'Balance confirmation letter' from bank? what all information should be included in it?

[vimukt]

hi Shubhi,

You have to submit original bank statements issued by bank...online prints wont work.

Secondly u have option of submitting 2 sets- one containing 12 months statement and other with 3 months OR only 12 months statement as it would reflect past 3 months also

For Integra you need to submit photocopy of everything you are submitting in original for Visa processing...that means you have to submit all documents in original along with one set of photocopy for INTEGRA...

Lastly... BAlance confirmation letter is not necessary if u r submitting original statements from bank..anywaY if u wish you may ask bank to draft a letter which specify how much amount is available in you account since the specified date( 3months before the date u filled the application)

Hope its helpful

Regards,
Vimukt

[vimukt]

Hi Everybody,

I applied Tier1 from Pune office September 9

Timelines
--------------------
Application Date :09-Sep-08


Will keep you posted on the timelines and the documents submitted

till now I got call from my HR that they hv got a mail about my application asking about some verification info

[Shubhi]

Thanks Vimukt!!!!

[Shubhi]

I have one more problem....

My Passport and my degree certificate is showing differet spelling of my name. Can I submit a notarised letter know as affidavitt for that?

Please help

[deepinder7090]

Dear SHUBHI,


yes you can submitt the affidavit attested by the notary


regards
deepinder

[Sweet.Marcus]

Guys n gals, this is definitely going to save your time and effort @ the Visa Application Centre...

***APPOINTMENT**********************************************
#1. Please , Please , Please... Book an appointment before you visit the VFS Visa application centre.. Just drop a mail one\two weeks prior to your application date to appointmentsouth@vfs-uk-in.com

Give them three time slots( Date & Time).. And get a printed copy of your appointment letter, and show it to the security


****ATTITUDE**********************************************

#2. Be a wolf rather than a sheep( Or else the VFS guys are going to inject fear into your mind)

they might ask for some docs , which might be irrelevant for a Tier1 aplication.. The More junk docs you give, tougher would be the Integra screening and processing and guess what, you have a confusedECO officer too..

I have mentioned the list of docs required below..
******VISA FEES)*********************************************

#3. After you take your latest statement(maintenance) , please apply for a Demand Draft from nationalized banks, to pay visa fee.. Forget paying at the counter in VFS centre.. queue is(horrible).

If your application is from the south zone, then your Demand Draft should favour " BRITISH DEPUTY HIGH COMMISSION" and PAYABLE at CHENNAI...

Another tip, any amount in excess of 49000 INR, requires you to submit a CHEQUE leaf (favouring yourself).. So, keep a cheque handy when gettinga DD of 51000.. This is a new IT rule, applicable to all Banks..

*******PHOTOS*********************************************

#4. PHOTOS, if you have travelled you UK before, the standard size of photo's used to be 5 x 5.. this is CHANGED. No more "SQUARISH" type photos.. Please visit VFS-UK-IN.com and check the photo specification and keep two photos ready.. Alternatively, if you reach the VAC centre an hour earlier then an instant photo studio is avaible inside.. 100 bucks for four photos

***************XEROX**************************************

#5. XEROX required... I have attached the exact list

check list..
VAF9 + AppendixForm,
Last 3months salary slip(Submitted for Previous earning),
all Bank Statements (previous earning + Maintenance),
Points Calculator Form ( this form is Online Self-assesment Tool on UK BIA website.. It generates a PDF print),
PBS (Integra Screening- This is available at the Counter),
Education ( Master Degree Certificate)
PAssport Copies( all pages including Blank pages)
Plus, additional XEROX of the first page of your Passport (p1 & p2)

***********************************************************

[Shubhi]

Hi Deepinder

Thanks for the help.

My bank was able to give me 'balance confirmation certificate' on a given date only and they dont have a format stating the balance is maintained in the bank since last 3 months.

In such a scenario I got 3 balance confirmation certificates on a given date of last 3 months...For eg: balance on 17th June, 17th July, 17th Aug and on 17th Sept was so and so, also I will attach 3 month's bank statement to justify the amount....Please suggest will that do?

If I dont submit my Form 16 will there be any problem?

Please help me...

Thanks
Shubhi

Dear SHUBHI,


yes you can submitt the affidavit attested by the notary


regards
deepinder

[mjmani]

Hi Subhi,
I am in same kind of situation. My bank gave me a letter showing I have average balance of so & so for 3 months. This in-spite of explaining exactly what it should contain. Today I called them and blasted. They agreed to provide me the correct letter. I guess you're in India and it should be easy if you directly talk to them explain clearly that you will get rejected for their lazyness/lack of customer satisfaction. You can not take such a chance and force them to give letter in the format you want. I would be getting the letter from bank this Friday. I will post that format here so will help others.
Bottomline is you should demand that letter from them that should address all points mentioned in Tier 1 General guidelines. You can show them a printout from this https://ukvisas-stage.ukvisas.gov.uk/en ... ralmigrant
Main point is the letter should clearly show that your balance did not drop below the minimum 2800 pounds on any single date during the 3 month period.

[devilish]

Frds,

I need to ask a silly question regarding bank maintenance account.
As per the below statement on the ukba website:

"For applications submitted outside of the United Kingdom, all evidence must be dated no more than seven days before the application is submitted."

My understanding is that if someone is applying on the 30thSeptember than a statement dated 23rdSeptember would suffice as it is 7 days before the application date or does the person has to take a statement that is dated 24thSeptember as 30thSeptember is the 7thday from 24th September.

Please could any one guide me on this as this looks a bit tricky?

Thanks,
Devilish.

[mjmani]

"must be dated no more than seven days before the application is submitted" means it should NOT be before 7th day prior to the application date. Again, application date is NOT the date you post it. It is the date they receive it.