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Would you mind starting this in a new thread? The reason I ask is that I would like to have people's feedback (positive and negative) of flying using an article 10 or 20 residence card. Actual experience, not theoretical. We often get people asking, can I fly here, can I fly there? Will I be denied boarding? Will I have no problem?docteurbenway wrote:Hi guys, i have been reading UK Immigration Regulations 2006 again, mainly:
Right of admission to the United Kingdom
11.—(1) An EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he produces on arrival a
valid national identity card or passport issued by an EEA State.
(2) A person who is not an EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he is a family member of an EEA national, a family member who has retained the right of residence or a person with a permanent right of residence under regulation 15 and produces on arrival—
(a) a valid passport; and
(b) an EEA family permit, a residence card or a permanent residence card.
Here it does not say that the residence card should be issued by the UK authorities, so this could be used as an argument when producing lets say an Italian Family card?
Or is there a paragraph where it says "issued by UK authorities"?
Thanks
See Regulation 2.docteurbenway wrote:Hi guys, i have been reading UK Immigration Regulations 2006 again, mainly:
Right of admission to the United Kingdom
11.—(1) An EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he produces on arrival a
valid national identity card or passport issued by an EEA State.
(2) A person who is not an EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he is a family member of an EEA national, a family member who has retained the right of residence or a person with a permanent right of residence under regulation 15 and produces on arrival—
(a) a valid passport; and
(b) an EEA family permit, a residence card or a permanent residence card.
Here it does not say that the residence card should be issued by the UK authorities, so this could be used as an argument when producing lets say an Italian Family card?
Or is there a paragraph where it says "issued by UK authorities"?
Thanks
It doesnt say so anywhere explicitly, however that´s the UK´s interpretation, and this is exactly what all the numerous complaints are about.docteurbenway wrote:...Here it does not say that the residence card should be issued by the UK authorities, so this could be used as an argument when producing lets say an Italian Family card?
Or is there a paragraph where it says "issued by UK authorities"?...
Actually Jubo is right, it says UK right here:ca.funke wrote:It doesnt say so anywhere explicitly, however that´s the UK´s interpretation, and this is exactly what all the numerous complaints are about.docteurbenway wrote:...Here it does not say that the residence card should be issued by the UK authorities, so this could be used as an argument when producing lets say an Italian Family card?
Or is there a paragraph where it says "issued by UK authorities"?...
You can find a lot about this topic in the forum.
Sure, no probEUsmileWEallsmile wrote:Would you mind starting this in a new thread? The reason I ask is that I would like to have people's feedback (positive and negative) of flying using an article 10 or 20 residence card. Actual experience, not theoretical. We often get people asking, can I fly here, can I fly there? Will I be denied boarding? Will I have no problem?docteurbenway wrote:Hi guys, i have been reading UK Immigration Regulations 2006 again, mainly:
Right of admission to the United Kingdom
11.—(1) An EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he produces on arrival a
valid national identity card or passport issued by an EEA State.
(2) A person who is not an EEA national must be admitted to the United Kingdom if he is a family member of an EEA national, a family member who has retained the right of residence or a person with a permanent right of residence under regulation 15 and produces on arrival—
(a) a valid passport; and
(b) an EEA family permit, a residence card or a permanent residence card.
Here it does not say that the residence card should be issued by the UK authorities, so this could be used as an argument when producing lets say an Italian Family card?
Or is there a paragraph where it says "issued by UK authorities"?
Thanks
To answer your specific question, yes the definition of a residence card under the 2006 regulations is one issued under those same regulations (by the UK).
Thanks. Have you read the conformance study? They did not spot this problem when the analysed the Uk's transposition, but as you see it is there.docteurbenway wrote: Sure, no prob