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Jistice, Ireland Dublin is worst than UK... UK is more better i believejustice12 wrote:They are really making a big mistake by refusing people with British children are they nuts , expecting people to leave their kids and go just like that ! ,all this for 2,5 years visa that's you have to renew for the next 10 years of you life ,and go through all this shit again and again and not allowed to claim a penny . that's no right , and they so call it civilised country ! no country in Europe treated people like that .
I provided everything from passport photocopies (my daughters and partners), birth certificates, support letters from family, photos, letters, emails, cards to proof of cohabitation since we moved in together (council tax, utility bills, surgery letters, hospital, doctors appointments) !! I am very nervous now, they just don't care about anyone do they! Yes my solicitor did everything , I submitted every possible documents u can think of . I'm shocked and upset , it don't make sense to me at all .[/quote]justice12 wrote:
You're right Keisha, let's hope for the best, what are you applying for? what's your timeline?Keisha wrote:@Why...Don't give up the fight and like cookie mentined,get a second opinion as ur case sound very strong.U been here for 10yrs and hv a British partner and child.This is seriously amiss and totally utter rubbish with the reason they've given.Fight till all avenues are exhausted....they allow rapists and nurderers to stay here but geniune caring people have to be refused.Write to ur MP and try to google organisation that help with legal aid...the last one will be to take the media route and expose their shroudy decisions!!
Cookie...Don't let them scare you doll and pray that all goes well!These £6.50 decisions must just come to an end,which really questions are they realy doing their job properly.
Its really sad to hear such decisions....*sighs*.Lord have mercy on us!!
What section on the flro form did you apply under? Right to access a british child? or "other" 8L?Why lie wrote:My girlfriend supported my application the best way she could by writing on my behalf how I am helpful in bringing up my daughter for the past 6 years . But they still have the cheek to refuse me saying I don't do enough in her upbringing , so who else will they believe ?
I live with her , she has 2 other children I call my own , including my daughter , we provided photos of all of us . I couldn't prove I live with them cos I'm not in the system , i been here 10 yrs only 6 months legal ,I don't have nothing in my name , no bank account no nothing , so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?Keisha wrote:@Why.....that reason is utterly atrocious.I don't think the case-worker knew what they were doing honestly.So,all they want is to separate u from ur daughter and bring emotional instability owards your daughter's welfare.These people are joking and how dare they say that...it really upsets me when I think about their decision.Don't let them get away with this Why coz your family needs you!!
this doesnt make any sense at all,you've got a kid, and spouse lived here for that long no criminal record and you still got refused, your caseworker is bnp mate, this goes to show how your case can end up in the wrong hands if unlucky,i know people in worst situations and still got granted.Why lie wrote:My girlfriend supported my application the best way she could by writing on my behalf how I am helpful in bringing up my daughter for the past 6 years . But they still have the cheek to refuse me saying I don't do enough in her upbringing , so who else will they believe ?
That's probably it, my solicitor made me collect all joint bills (utility, council tax, random receipts from deliveries, and joint tenancy agreements!) all with my name on it. That's all he wanted. Is there any way you can get docs like that stating that you do live with them? a letter from the landlord (if your house is rented) or delivery receipts that can prove you live there?Why lie wrote:I live with her , she has 2 other children I call my own , including my daughter , we provided photos of all of us . I couldn't prove I live with them cos I'm not in the system , i been here 10 yrs only 6 months legal ,I don't have nothing in my name , no bank account no nothing , so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?Keisha wrote:@Why.....that reason is utterly atrocious.I don't think the case-worker knew what they were doing honestly.So,all they want is to separate u from ur daughter and bring emotional instability owards your daughter's welfare.These people are joking and how dare they say that...it really upsets me when I think about their decision.Don't let them get away with this Why coz your family needs you!!
Came on man you lived in this country long enough to know how to manage to get prove of cohabitation, is not that hard , you can register on the tesco online and they will send you hundred letter on your name !!Why lie wrote:I live with her , she has 2 other children I call my own , including my daughter , we provided photos of all of us . I couldn't prove I live with them cos I'm not in the system , i been here 10 yrs only 6 months legal ,I don't have nothing in my name , no bank account no nothing , so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?Keisha wrote:@Why.....that reason is utterly atrocious.I don't think the case-worker knew what they were doing honestly.So,all they want is to separate u from ur daughter and bring emotional instability owards your daughter's welfare.These people are joking and how dare they say that...it really upsets me when I think about their decision.Don't let them get away with this Why coz your family needs you!!
justice12 wrote:Came on man you lived in this country long enough to know how to manage to get prove of cohabitation, is not that hard , you can register on the tesco online and they will send you hundred letter on your name !!Why lie wrote:I live with her , she has 2 other children I call my own , including my daughter , we provided photos of all of us . I couldn't prove I live with them cos I'm not in the system , i been here 10 yrs only 6 months legal ,I don't have nothing in my name , no bank account no nothing , so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?Keisha wrote:@Why.....that reason is utterly atrocious.I don't think the case-worker knew what they were doing honestly.So,all they want is to separate u from ur daughter and bring emotional instability owards your daughter's welfare.These people are joking and how dare they say that...it really upsets me when I think about their decision.Don't let them get away with this Why coz your family needs you!!
you could't prove that's you lived with your daughter and girl friend that's why you have been refused
and they asked for the prove of cohabitation and you didn't provide it .
Keisha is right! (and I will indeed keep you guys posted) Why lie: you need to start looking for random post that has your name on it, either be tescos or anything else like brochures, or anything! you can still win this, that's all you need! How about contacting your MP for advice!Keisha wrote:@Justice...if he knew that the decision was gonna be based on that,he could have done that.Besides,te solicitor was supposed to have advised him with hat regard,so saying what you just said, won't help and he just needs to hear positiveness from us instead of pointing out,the what not!
@Cookie...plz do keep us posted how yours turns out.
The OP is asking for an opinion on what ground he was refused and I am trying hard to find out why he was refused , my be some people in this forum learn from it .I am giving him idea what he should do next by privet messagejustice12 wrote:so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?
[/quote]Prince74 wrote:The OP is asking for an opinion on what ground he was refused and I am trying hard to find out why he was refused , my be some people in this forum learn from it .I am giving him idea what he should do next by privet messagejustice12 wrote:so I couldn't prove on the that grounds that I live with them , maybe that's why I was refused , what do u guys think ?
so don't misunderstand me !!!
Utility bills are conclusive proof of cohabitation, things like: gas/electric bills, council tax statements, bank statements, store card statement, tv licence, etc.Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
This is a clean article 8 case man, I still can't figure out what went wrong, but next time when u apply again state a major role u play in the child's life like for instance doing the school run and looking at him/her at home daily, while your wife's out working, with that they'll know the child will suffer without u so they will grant u to keep u safeguarding the child. They are interested in such situations.Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
Looking after***Fayvritt wrote:This is a clean article 8 case man, I still can't figure out what went wrong, but next time when u apply again state a major role u play in the child's life like for instance doing the school run and looking at him/her at home daily, while your wife's out working, with that they'll know the child will suffer without u so they will grant u to keep u safeguarding the child. They are interested in such situations.Why lie wrote:I had like less than 48 hours to provide them , I added all the letters written to me from my local mp , which had my name on it . Wasn't that enough ?
