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Italy Visit Visa - London

Post by paji1034 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:58 pm

A brief history first......

I have indefinite leave to remain in the UK and same with with my wife. We are originally from Pakistan and have Pakistani nationality. I came here in UK on work-permit visa 6 years ago.

Our daughter was born in the UK and she recently got british passport.

I am planing holiday trip to Europe with my family. I will be first visiting to Italy and then we will have a cruise trip to Italy, Greece, Turkey and then back to Italy.

I have checked on the forum, It seems I will have to apply visit visa Italy embassy in London.

I have following questions if any can help:

- Do I need to apply for single entry visa? Will it cover for all euro countries I will be visiting
- Do I need to buy plane tickets and cruise ticket before I apply for visa ?
- What documents I need to submit for my wife as she is home maker and dependant on me?


Thanks in adv.

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Re: Italy Visit Visa - London

Post by paji1034 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:29 am

Any help 8)

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:59 pm

Have you read this thread?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=102396

Do you need a separate visa for Turkey?

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Post by paji1034 » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:14 pm

EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:Have you read this thread?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=102396

Do you need a separate visa for Turkey?
Thanks for pointing to above link. Helped me a lot.

I think I have few more questions now:

- My wife is financially dependant on me. When I am booking visa appointment, it seems she has to book her own separate appointment. Could I have one family appointment?

- As part of cruise trip I will be also travelling to Tunisia. There is no great deal of information available on the web about Tunisia visit visa. Could I get transit visa for Tunisia? Not sure this is right forum to ask this question. I will give a call to Tunisian embassy in London (they do not even have embassy website...)

- Re: Turkey I have explored as a Pakistani passport holder, I can apply short visit visa on the arrival

- As I am travelling to Turkey and Tunisia, I will need multiple entry schengen visa?

- Last question (hopefully), do I need to book my flight in advance or can I do this once I get the visa ?


Thanks for all help...

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:07 am

paji1034 wrote:
EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:Have you read this thread?

http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=102396

Do you need a separate visa for Turkey?
Thanks for pointing to above link. Helped me a lot.

I think I have few more questions now:

- My wife is financially dependant on me. When I am booking visa appointment, it seems she has to book her own separate appointment. Could I have one family appointment? I imagine that you can go at the same time, email the embassy or their agent to confirm.

- As part of cruise trip I will be also travelling to Tunisia. There is no great deal of information available on the web about Tunisia visit visa. Could I get transit visa for Tunisia? Not sure this is right forum to ask this question. I will give a call to Tunisian embassy in London (they do not even have embassy website...) Please see and search for your specifics http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/

- Re: Turkey I have explored as a Pakistani passport holder, I can apply short visit visa on the arrival Good

- As I am travelling to Turkey and Tunisia, I will need multiple entry schengen visa? I imagine that you do. Explain this in a letter when making the visa application.

- Last question (hopefully), do I need to book my flight in advance or can I do this once I get the visa ? I would not be inclined to get confirmed non-refundable tickets until the visa was issued.


Thanks for all help...
Have you seen the form? Some answers to your questions above.
http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/IMG/pdf/visagb.pdf

I would be inclined to write a covering letter explaining your travel plans and the route you'd like to take.

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Post by paji1034 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:28 pm

Thanks...


Re tickets etc.

See below link of Italy visa requirements:

http://it.vfsglobal.co.uk/nonimmigrant_ ... ments.html


Fully paid return bookings for your complete travel itinerary. Please note that proof of payment must clearly be shown.


It seems I will have to purchase ticket before applying visa...

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:07 pm

paji1034 wrote:Thanks...


Re tickets etc.

See below link of Italy visa requirements:

http://it.vfsglobal.co.uk/nonimmigrant_ ... ments.html


Fully paid return bookings for your complete travel itinerary. Please note that proof of payment must clearly be shown.


It seems I will have to purchase ticket before applying visa...
Ok, best to get refundable / changeable tickets in case of problem then (hope none, but you don't want to waste your money).

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Post by paji1034 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:11 pm

Sorry I am back with two questions:

Question 1

I called help line number for Italian consulate to confirm which documents I need to submit for my wife's visa application as she is dependant on me and I will be paying all her expenses etc and we both are travelling together with our daughter..

They answered they will need attested copy of your marriage certificate from your country high commission/consulate in UK.

Now I am bit confused with the requirement as there is lot of hassle to test marriage certificate from Pakistani high commission:

I raised below points but still it seems I need to provide attested copy of translated marriage certificate (the original certificate is not in English lang)

- My wife's passport clearly states husband name
- My child DOB certificate states parents name

I have translated copy of our marriage certificate attested by notary public in my home country back in 2008.

Would above be sufficient for my wife's application??

Question 2

Me and wife both never applied for Schengen visa before. Could we still ask for multiple entry visa ? (As part of Cruise we are travelling to Turkey etc and will come back to Italy and then back UK)...

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Post by sum1 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:40 pm

Authenication of foreign documents is standard procedure. If the issuing country is not part of the Hague convention like Pakistan this is more complicated. I do not think that a notary public is sufficient.

You can always ask for multiple entry visa but if you want to get one you will have to show that your itinerary requires one. There is also the possibility of a double entry visa.

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Re: Italy Visit Visa - London

Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:38 pm

paji1034 wrote:A brief history first......

I have indefinite leave to remain in the UK and same with with my wife. We are originally from Pakistan and have Pakistani nationality. I came here in UK on work-permit visa 6 years ago.

Our daughter was born in the UK and she recently got british passport.
This will help, it shows that you are your wife can come back to the UK following your vacation.

Your daughter does not need a visa.

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:39 pm

paji1034 wrote: I called help line number for Italian consulate to confirm which documents I need to submit for my wife's visa application as she is dependant on me and I will be paying all her expenses etc and we both are travelling together with our daughter.
You are going on a family holiday, not immigrating to Italy. Do you both satisfy the requirements in this document, if yes, you should get the visa?

http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/polici ... 620_en.pdf

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Post by paji1034 » Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:59 pm

EUsmileWEallsmile wrote:
paji1034 wrote: I called help line number for Italian consulate to confirm which documents I need to submit for my wife's visa application as she is dependant on me and I will be paying all her expenses etc and we both are travelling together with our daughter.
You are going on a family holiday, not immigrating to Italy. Do you both satisfy the requirements in this document, if yes, you should get the visa?

http://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/polici ... 620_en.pdf
Thanks..... this is helping.

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Post by rk_2011 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:53 pm

Marriage certificate:
I was in a similar situation but not visa for Italy but for France. Note, french visas are processed by TLS contact and NOT VFS

My marriage certificate was all in English. Requirements were the same as that you found for Italy - i.e. attestation required as documents issued from my country not inline with Hague convention. Note: India follows Apostille convention, see list of countries

Just to cut a long story short, if your embassy is not willing to attest on the marriage certificate, see if you can get a photocopy of your certificate attested from the embassy. Though these are two different things - getting original attested and getting a photocopy attested, it is better to go with something and see if VFS accepts it. This is just a suggestion as I am not sure about VFS.

The way to get it attested properly is to send it to Foreign affairs or similar institution in your country and get it attested from there on the original. You then take the certificate to your high commission in London and then they will happily stamp it. But this is so of course not feasible given you just got to know the requirements now ... Next time you go to Pakistan you could get this done.

Multiple entry:
I think it is unclear when they issue multiple entry. I got a 6 months multiple entry for my second Schengen. But these things will definitely boost your chances: 1) previous Schengen visas, 2) Annual multi-trip travel insurance, 3) your status in UK, 4) .. and ofcourse you asking for a multiple-entry visa and perhaps provide a cover letter explaining why?

Visiting other countries
With a single-entry visa, you are only allowed one (i.e. single) entry into the Schengen zone. Once inside Schengen zone, you can hop in-out of countries as long as as you stay within the zone.

Tickets
Technically, booking tickets should be fine as they cant oblige you to buy the tickets before you travel. I remember reading somewhere on forum someone booking tickets and still getting a visa. But you have to have confirmation of a return ticket (preferably purchased) before you submit your application for visa.

Finally, it is outrageous, but remember to take 4 photocopies of your own passport before you go to the appointment. You will need two for your own application, one copy for your spouse's application, and one copy each for your children. And photocopies of all supporting docs. They look at the originals and send photocopy with application.

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