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boloney
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Post by boloney » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:21 pm

sierra wrote:as i said before holding british passport as eu citizens they can enter and exit poland or any eu country its not going to be a problem .
but if they have a non eu passport than its different as uk is in eu they can enter and exit any european country including poland if you see british passport on cover it says eu, which means they can enter and exit .
as there is no entry or exit req for uk passport holders so why you think in your case they make exception?
uk is in eu :lol: :lol:
as I said before Polish law does`t allow to use other nationality while entering/leaving and in Poland.

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Post by sierra » Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:56 pm

boloney i think we are going in round and roud just in cirle there is no start point and no end.
does polish law allow you to have dual nationality ?
if yes than you can use that nationality and i belive poland does allow you to have dual nationality other wise you would not have uk passports.
and you said abou polish and us passport they use to stop ok .
usa is not in europe dofferent rules can apply for us.
but how poland is going to restrict right of entrance and exit for eu passports or for uk .
though you expain your kids are polish too .but i still doubt that poland can just deny entry or exit for uk nationality holders .

boloney
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Post by boloney » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:21 pm

sierra wrote:boloney i think we are going in round and roud just in cirle there is no start point and no end.
does polish law allow you to have dual nationality ?
if yes than you can use that nationality and i belive poland does allow you to have dual nationality other wise you would not have uk passports.
and you said abou polish and us passport they use to stop ok .
usa is not in europe dofferent rules can apply for us.
but how poland is going to restrict right of entrance and exit for eu passports or for uk .
though you expain your kids are polish too .but i still doubt that poland can just deny entry or exit for uk nationality holders .
poland does`t stop people to hold dual nationality.
but own citizens in poland tread only as polish citizens.
for example if british/polish citizens get arrested in poland they not gonna let him get help from uk embassy in poland.
so if they ever try to stop my kids we should ask why they trying to stop eu citizens to cross the border?

Directive/2004/38/EC
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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:53 pm

As I pointed out, EU law says that if somebody has a passport of an EU member state, then they must be admitted.

You point out the conflict with Polish law.

In general the EU law must be implemented in this area.

But that does not mean that you might possibly have a problem at the border.

But if you ever do have a problem, having a very clear printout from Directive 2004/38/EC would help, and knowing your rights under EU law.

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/eu-coun ... fo-poland/ contains a link to some laws. The english translation does not seem to suggest they have made an exception to disallow entry if the person is also a Polish citizen:
ACT of 14 July 2006
on the entry into, residence in and exit from the Republic of Poland of nationals of the European Union Member States and their family members
(Journal of Laws No. 144, item 1043)


Article 2
Whenever in this Act the reference is made to:
(1) border – it shall signify the state border of the Republic of Poland within the meaning of the Act of 12 October 1990 on the protection of the state border (Dz.U. of 2005 No 226 item 1944);
(2) travel document – it shall signify a travel document within the meaning of the Act of 13 June 2003 on foreign nationals (Dz. U. of 2003, No 128, item 1175 as amended )
(3) Union citizen – it shall mean a foreign national:
(a) national of the European Union Member States,
(b) national of the non-EU European Economic Area states,
(c) national of States, which are not parties to the agreement on European Economic Area, who may exercise their right to move and reside freely within the territory on the grounds of the agreements concluded by these States with the European Community and its Member States;



Article 9
1. Union citizen may enter the territory of the Republic of Poland on the grounds of a valid travel document or other valid documents confirming their identity and citizenship.

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Post by boloney » Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:53 pm

Directive/2004/38/EC wrote:As I pointed out, EU law says that if somebody has a passport of an EU member state, then they must be admitted.

You point out the conflict with Polish law.

In general the EU law must be implemented in this area.

But that does not mean that you might possibly have a problem at the border.

But if you ever do have a problem, having a very clear printout from Directive 2004/38/EC would help, and knowing your rights under EU law.

http://eumovement.wordpress.com/eu-coun ... fo-poland/ contains a link to some laws. The english translation does not seem to suggest they have made an exception to disallow entry if the person is also a Polish citizen:
ACT of 14 July 2006
on the entry into, residence in and exit from the Republic of Poland of nationals of the European Union Member States and their family members
(Journal of Laws No. 144, item 1043)


Article 2
Whenever in this Act the reference is made to:
(1) border – it shall signify the state border of the Republic of Poland within the meaning of the Act of 12 October 1990 on the protection of the state border (Dz.U. of 2005 No 226 item 1944);
(2) travel document – it shall signify a travel document within the meaning of the Act of 13 June 2003 on foreign nationals (Dz. U. of 2003, No 128, item 1175 as amended )
(3) Union citizen – it shall mean a foreign national:
(a) national of the European Union Member States,
(b) national of the non-EU European Economic Area states,
(c) national of States, which are not parties to the agreement on European Economic Area, who may exercise their right to move and reside freely within the territory on the grounds of the agreements concluded by these States with the European Community and its Member States;



Article 9
1. Union citizen may enter the territory of the Republic of Poland on the grounds of a valid travel document or other valid documents confirming their identity and citizenship.
thanks for info.

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Post by sierra » Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:15 pm

dont worry you are going to be ok with british passport . when you travelling and update what happend .

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Post by Directive/2004/38/EC » Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:35 am

sierra wrote:dont worry you are going to be ok with british passport . when you travelling and update what happend .
I agree they should be. But Immigration Officials are not very well trained with European law, so it is best to be prepared with a lot of knowledge so that you can push back appropriately if challenged.

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