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Help please, spouse visa refuse after a long wait :(

Post by kash_hash » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:04 pm

I was on student visa from 2006 and in 2011 i was caught working more than 20 hours, i went to tribunal 1 and court told home office to grant me 6 months visa to get married here with my british fiance(she got 1 kid from previous marriage) and also to complete my degree, in 2012 feb i have applied for the spouse visa, last week home office requested evidence of living together like bills etc, today i got refusal with appeal saying:

(1) the application has limited leave to remaqin in the united kingdom qwhich was given in accordance with any of the provisions of these rules, other than where as a result of that leave he would not have been in the united kingdom beyong 6 months from the date on which he was admitted to the united kingdom on this occasion in accordance with these rules.

you were granted discretionary leave to remain in the uk not in accordance with any of the provisions of these rules for a period of less than 6 months valid from 13 december 2011 until 29 febuary 2012 in view of this fact, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet the requirements in terms of leave set out in paragraph 284(i)

therefore we refuse your spouse application under para 286 and reference to 284(I)

in refusing your application consideration has been given to your family life under article 8 which from july 2012 falls under appendix FM of the rules.



private life

we have consider your claim and refuse because you you last entered united kingdom 8 feb 2008 so you have failed to demonstrate that you have had 20 years residence in the uk as required by rule 276ade(3)


Please advice what should i do next,

i got this decision today morning and my wife at work i dont wanna tell her now until she come home, she work hard for me 7 days a week for 10 months from 9 to 7 just to get approval from home visa and they refused :(

thank you in advance
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Post by kash_hash » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:59 pm

senior members i am waiting for your kindful advices, thank you in advance

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Post by kash_hash » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:03 am

please batleykhan john anyone from senior member any advices?

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Post by Greenie » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:16 am

Do you have a right of appeal?

The decision is correct as to why you don't qualify for leave under para 281.
What was their reasoning as to why you don't qualify for leave due to your family life?

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Post by kash_hash » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:42 am

Greenie wrote:Do you have a right of appeal?

The decision is correct as to why you don't qualify for leave under para 281.
What was their reasoning as to why you don't qualify for leave due to your family life?
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject: Help please, spouse visa refuse after a long wait :(

Thank you greenie for your precious time

yes i have a right of appeal

Here is the Full Refusal below:

(1) the application has limited leave to remain in the united kingdom qwhich was given in accordance with any of the provisions of these rules, other than where as a result of that leave he would not have been in the united kingdom beyong 6 months from the date on which he was admitted to the united kingdom on this occasion in accordance with these rules.

you were granted discretionary leave to remain in the uk not in accordance with any of the provisions of these rules for a period of less than 6 months valid from 13 december 2011 until 29 febuary 2012 in view of this fact, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet the requirements in terms of leave set out in paragraph 284(i)

therefore we refuse your spouse application under para 286 and reference to 284(I)

in refusing your application consideration has been given to your family life under article 8 which from july 2012 falls under appendix FM of the rules.

R-LTRP.1.1. The requirements to be met for limited leave to remain as a partner-

(d) (i) the applicant must not fall for refusal under section S-LTR: Suitability leave to remain; and

(ii) the applicant meets the requirements of paragraphs E-LTRP.1.2-1.12. AND E-LTRP.2.1.;and

(iii) paragraph EX.1.applies.

ELTRP.2.1 The applicant must not be in the UK-

(b) with valid leave granted for a period of 6 months or less, unless that leave is as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner, or was granted pending the outcome of family court or divorce proceedings.

In view of the fact that you are in uk with leave granted for a period of 6 months or less, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet requirements of paragraph E-LTRP.2.1.

You there fail to meet the requirements of the immigration rules for this category and it has been decided to refuse your application for leave to remain as a spouse under the published immigigration rules D-LTRP 1.3 with reference to R-LTRP.1.1(d)

PRIVATE LIFE

consideration has been given to your claim that your removal would breach your right to respect for private and family life under article 8 of the europeon convention on human rights in that you enjoy private life in the united kingdom

your application to remain in the united kingdom has been determined under rule 276ade of the immigiration rules by virtue of rule 326b.

article 8 (2) provides that it can be lawful to interfere with the exercise of the right to respect for family and/or private life where it is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic country, for the prevention of disorder or crime . for the protection of health or morals , or for the protection of the rights and freedom of others


you last entered united kingdom feb 2008

you have failed to demonstrate that you have had 20 years residence in the uk as required by rule 276ade(3)

therefore your claim is refused under paragraph 276BE with reference to 276ADE of HC395( as amended)

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Post by kash_hash » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:49 am

please reply any senior members or greenie

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Post by kash_hash » Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:10 am

please guys a single reply will help me, i will be thankful please...

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Post by Franko » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:54 pm

What are you asking? the reason for the refusal is clear, you were not in a category for which you can apply for a spouse visa in the UK. I dont see that you can really appeal this decision and your only option would be to go back to your home country and reapply from there.

you were granted discretionary leave to remain in the uk not in accordance with any of the provisions of these rules for a period of less than 6 months valid from 13 december 2011 until 29 febuary 2012 in view of this fact, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet the requirements in terms of leave set out in paragraph 284(i)

ELTRP.2.1 The applicant must not be in the UK- (b) with valid leave granted for a period of 6 months or less, unless that leave is as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner, or was granted pending the outcome of family court or divorce proceedings.

In view of the fact that you are in uk with leave granted for a period of 6 months or less, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet requirements of paragraph E-LTRP.2.1.

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Post by kash_hash » Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:01 pm

Franko wrote:What are you asking? the reason for the refusal is clear, you were not in a category for which you can apply for a spouse visa in the UK. I dont see that you can really appeal this decision and your only option would be to go back to your home country and reapply from there.

you were granted discretionary leave to remain in the uk not in accordance with any of the provisions of these rules for a period of less than 6 months valid from 13 december 2011 until 29 febuary 2012 in view of this fact, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet the requirements in terms of leave set out in paragraph 284(i)

ELTRP.2.1 The applicant must not be in the UK- (b) with valid leave granted for a period of 6 months or less, unless that leave is as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner, or was granted pending the outcome of family court or divorce proceedings.

In view of the fact that you are in uk with leave granted for a period of 6 months or less, the secretary of state is not satisfied that you are able to meet requirements of paragraph E-LTRP.2.1.

Thanks for your time, i wanted to ask about article 8, my wife have a son from previous marriage, her x husband was abusive because of that my wife tried suicide several times and we have reports regarding that from surgery and my family is in back country and they are against our marriage because of our different backgrounds and my wife family is here they are against her and several time they abuse her verbally and we did report that to the police here, my wife can not support herself and kid alone here so if i go back than there will be no coming back, on these points is there any chance that i will get decision in favor in the tribunal, i already submitted my appeal at tribunal 1.

is there any chance? thank you in advance :)

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Post by Greenie » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:14 pm

It is worth appealing and arguing article 8 grounds.would suggest you seek legal advice.

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Post by zully » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:57 pm

Greenie wrote:It is worth appealing and arguing article 8 grounds.would suggest you seek legal advice.
Kash_hash,

You need legal advise mate, you do have good grounds but being able to fight it is another matter, artical 8 private life is some thing these guys go on about, but they sent my husband back to pakistan and did not give him right to appeal. I had to do a new visa application,
I have a 12 year old and I was pregnant at the time but none of that was taken in consideration.
application @ ISL 13/01/2012
returned 30/03/2012 Refused app
applied for appeal in uk 19/04/12
deadline given 05/11/2012
Court date: 10 jan 2013
call letter: 08/03/2013
visa stamped?

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Post by sh1981 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:15 am

zully wrote:
Greenie wrote:It is worth appealing and arguing article 8 grounds.would suggest you seek legal advice.
Kash_hash,

You need legal advise mate, you do have good grounds but being able to fight it is another matter, artical 8 private life is some thing these guys go on about, but they sent my husband back to pakistan and did not give him right to appeal. I had to do a new visa application,
I have a 12 year old and I was pregnant at the time but none of that was taken in consideration.
that sounds a bit harsh, why did they send your husband back? what visa was he on? i'm intersted to know more.
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ILR Submit: 05/12/2012
Spouse Visa Exp: 09/12/2012
Ack Rec'd: 12/12/2012
Bio Rec'd: 10/01/2013
Bio Done: 10/01/2013
ILR Approval letter: 05/03/2013
Bio RP Rec'd: 06/03/2013
Current Stat: Settled
My Blog: uk-spouse-visa.blogspot.com

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Post by kash_hash » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:24 am

Greenie wrote:It is worth appealing and arguing article 8 grounds.would suggest you seek legal advice.

thank you Greenie for your reply, yes I have a solicitor and i did appeal in tribunal1, now just waiting for the date

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Post by kash_hash » Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:29 am

zully wrote:
Greenie wrote:It is worth appealing and arguing article 8 grounds.would suggest you seek legal advice.
Kash_hash,

You need legal advise mate, you do have good grounds but being able to fight it is another matter, artical 8 private life is some thing these guys go on about, but they sent my husband back to pakistan and did not give him right to appeal. I had to do a new visa application,
I have a 12 year old and I was pregnant at the time but none of that was taken in consideration.
sorry to hear about your husband, I can feel your pain and i hope you bear the pain, things will be good soon don't worry, few more months than he will be with you :)

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