Drink-driving and British Citizenship

drdrjackbauer · Post by **drdrjackbauer** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:14 pm

can i just say something.

I absultely agreed that if you went to court. that become a fine which will show up in CRB check.

Btw, you have compuhasive insurace on your car, does not really means that you can drive the other ppl's car.

You have to have comp insurance that specificly written in your ceritifcate said you are allow to drive other's car and on the car you drive, need to have at least 3rd party insurance.

drdrjackbauer · Post by **drdrjackbauer** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:19 pm

and btw,

your friend's all that , i understood where u came from. I was in the same pit before.

but in the eyes of judge, it is whether you have insurance or not, or does your insurance allow you to drive other's car or not.

you argument will not work at all and believe when i got caught to take my drunk friend home in his car, i tried, my dad hired laywer, but layer suggest me to take the 6 points and 200 pounds, coz in court, the fine will raise

Smam · Post by **Smam** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:01 am

Hi

I do really appoligize if I hi jacked some one else thread. I dont know what to say now and what no to say I really dont understand that how it'll appear on CRB I really dont understand that it'll never ever be a crimnal offense that's what I've explained to me serveral times by the police officers at the police station and not just by one officer by many different officers.

Please read my reply in my orignal thread.

Many thanks for your useful replies.

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:36 am

Any other thoughts on my first post with regards to drink-driving offense and applying for BC (under the new rules)?

skstorm · Post by **skstorm** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:55 am

Msx2013 in answer to your original post, it is my understanding that with a fine from court you can apply after 3 years have gone. How they will look at it I can't say as I don't think anyone has had there application processed yet. Ours is in with a mobile phone conviction 3.5 years ago. You could always phone NCS and they will advise or contact ukba for you which is what they did for us. Will let you know how we go on

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:31 am

skstorm wrote:Msx2013 in answer to your original post, it is my understanding that with a fine from court you can apply after 3 years have gone. How they will look at it I can't say as I don't think anyone has had there application processed yet. Ours is in with a mobile phone conviction 3.5 years ago. You could always phone NCS and they will advise or contact ukba for you which is what they did for us. Will let you know how we go on

Thank you very much skstorm. I'll be ringing UKBA tomorrow and I'll keep you posted on any further development too.

peter3000 · Post by **peter3000** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:35 pm

Thank you very much skstorm. I'll be ringing UKBA tomorrow and I'll keep you posted on any further development too.[/quote]

Hi msx2013, I am in the exact the same situation like you. Did you call UKBA and what happened?? Thanks mate

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:16 pm

Peter,

No - I haven't been able to find a contact number for UKBA. Could someone help me with this? I remember speaking to them many years ago, but I cannot find a number now.

But I have written to UKBA on the following two email addresses:
ukbanationalityenquiries@ukba.gsi.gov.uk
FurtherNationalityEnquiries@ukba.gsi.gov.uk

As soon as I receive a response, I'll update this topic.

In the meantime, if anyone else is able to provide any further information - it'll be much appreciated.

drdrjackbauer · Post by **drdrjackbauer** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:42 pm

hi there firstly thank you very much for looking my thead and apply

one thing i want to tell you is :

for any kind of fine with no inpresioment, you just need to wait 3 years but there is a catch.

if you are banned or disqu-- for like 12 month, i think under the new rule the 3 years period start when the drive ban lifted.

so my advise to you is to pay like 50 poudns to consulate a immgartion laywer unless you have lotz of cash wined from casino

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:30 pm

drdrjackbauer wrote:
if you are banned or disqu-- for like 12 month, i think under the new rule the 3 years period start when the drive ban lifted.

It's good to hear from you - on what basis do you think under the new rule, the 3 yrs period start when the drive ban is lifted? My interpretation is it's 3 years from the date of conviction. Happy to stand corrected.

drdrjackbauer · Post by **drdrjackbauer** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:21 am

yes you are right , but if you read those impresiment rule, it clear state that the revelant period start once the stanance is finished

i strongly advise u to get a no win no fee lawyer not very experesive computer to the fee

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:37 am

drdrjackbauer wrote:yes you are right , but if you read those impresiment rule, it clear state that the revelant period start once the stanance is finished

i strongly advise u to get a no win no fee lawyer not very experesive computer to the fee

the relevant period starts once the sentence is finished - that's for custodial sentences. a drink-drive ban is a non-custodial sentence - wouldn't it be right to assume this?

yes, i'm either going to go with a immigration solicitor, or even bite the bullet and apply based on my intepretation of the new rules.

will keep you all posted.

peter3000 · Post by **peter3000** » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:54 am

msx2013 wrote:Peter,

No - I haven't been able to find a contact number for UKBA. Could someone help me with this? I remember speaking to them many years ago, but I cannot find a number now.

Hi msx2013,
Ihave found the following contact details of UKBA:

Contact details

Phone:
0870 606 7766

Textphone:
0800 389 8289 (the contact centre also accepts calls by text relay and other similar services)

Address:
UK Border Agency, Lunar House, 40 Wellesley Road, Croydon, Surrey CR9 2BY

Opening Hours:
Monday to Thursday 09:00 to 16:45, Friday 09:00 to 16:30 (excluding public holidays).

Hope that helps, I will try to contact them this afternoon and will keep you updated.

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:47 pm

See this topic - http://www.immigrationboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=124211

I think I am not going to bother contacting UKBA anymore but apply. Busy sorting my application form and paperwork now - I'll post back when I've send it away. I'm not using the NCS.

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:52 pm

this further supports my theory - http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/n ... rule_and_l

i.e. all convictions will need to be declared in your application form, but as long as it complies with the new timeline detailed on UKBA December guideline, then things may all be good.

skstorm · Post by **skstorm** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:01 pm

Hi all just to update - my husband got his approval through today and that was with 2 convictions CU80 & LC20 both given in court with fines in May 2009 and 1 FPN from Oct 2012. All were declared on his application, Good luck to those still waiting

msx2013 · Post by **msx2013** » Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:41 pm

skstorm wrote:Hi all just to update - my husband got his approval through today and that was with 2 convictions CU80 & LC20 both given in court with fines in May 2009 and 1 FPN from Oct 2012. All were declared on his application, Good luck to those still waiting

Fantastic news...thanks for getting back to us. My application will be submitted by end of this week. I'll keep all of you informed!

Ir0nMatt · Post by **Ir0nMatt** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:59 pm

So..... any news? ;-D

peter3000 · Post by **peter3000** » Sat May 11, 2013 2:19 pm

Hi msx,
what is the situation, did your application succeeded?

Ir0nMatt · Post by **Ir0nMatt** » Sat May 11, 2013 2:21 pm

Don't know about his application... but mine, with similar circumstances, was indeed a success!

Citizenship ceremony will be taking place in nineteen days!

Post by **Amber** » Sat May 11, 2013 3:58 pm

Smam wrote:Hi

Many thanks for your useful replies. I think I havent got any more options left now I'll take the consequences what ever it'll come to now as I already have requested for an appeal.

The Police officer reassured me that even if I loose it'll stay as a FPN and not a conviction and I've more chances to win it as I already have the fully comprehensive insurance and the normal insurance law is that if you're fully comprehensive insured you can also drive other vehicles as well.

This is the first time it happens to me I would like to take my chances requesting the judge lets see how it goes now.

The Police officers reassured many time that it'll stay as FPN even if I loose.

Well thanks a lot for your kind replies once again.

If you go to court and lose you will have a conviction that could bar you from naturalisation for 3 years or possibly longer. Moreover, you could face a greater fine and more points at court. Seek advice from a solicitor not a police officer.

skilachi · Post by **skilachi** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:27 pm

Ir0nMatt wrote:Don't know about his application... but mine, with similar circumstances, was indeed a success!

Citizenship ceremony will be taking place in nineteen days!

Hi IronMatt,

When was ur drink driving conviction issued and how long were you ban from driving/breath reading? Still got 5months to go before my ban driving ban non-custodial (from nov 2012) ends and know cant apply for BC until nov/dec 2015 but when be good if we can have a sticky notes for those with drinking driving ban and how long has elapsed (3 or 5)yrs before they applied for BC and if successful or not.

Thanks

Ir0nMatt · Post by **Ir0nMatt** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:37 pm

Ah, sorry, I can't help you with this. I had similar circumstances, but not drink driving. I had an IN10 (Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks) and an LC20 (Driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence). They are similar in severity to drink driving, but I didn't have a driving ban and certainly didn't need any breath reading.

Thankfully, the repercussions of these things does end, and I am pleased to say that I am now a British citizen!

Sorry I couldn't help, and good luck with your case!

Karnavati · Post by **Karnavati** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:35 am

Hi All,

Please can the successful applicants let me know if they had a covering letter while making the application, detailing or explaining their conviction?

If you have, please can you provide me with a format.

Making the application in 2 weeks time.

Thanks.
KS

Post by **Amber** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:34 am

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Drink-driving and British Citizenship

my sotry

btw

thank you for your repaly

Re: thank you for your repaly

yes

Re: yes

Covering Letter while making the application