Naturalisation Questions

[sh1981]

I was wondeirng if a local shopkeeper I've been going to to buy fruit, veg and the occassional pot noodles would qualify as my referee for naturalisation application?

She pays VAT.

Looking at this list http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immigrat ... ferees.pdf I can see that we got:

Director/Manager/Personnel
Officer of a VAT
registered Company

However a shopkeeper wouldnt really qualify as a company would they? I mean technically they're sole trader but she does pay the VAT.

And what do they mean when they say you got to know them personally. I mean where do they draw the line, I mean you should have sort of regular contact with them or does it go as far as knowing the colour of your underwear?

[sh1981]

anyone?

[Amber]

I was wondeirng if a local shopkeeper I've been going to to buy fruit, veg and the occassional pot noodles would qualify as my referee for naturalisation application?

She pays VAT.

Looking at this list http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immigrat ... ferees.pdf I can see that we got:

Director/Manager/Personnel
Officer of a VAT
registered Company

However a shopkeeper wouldnt really qualify as a company would they? I mean technically they're sole trader but she does pay the VAT.

And what do they mean when they say you got to know them personally. I mean where do they draw the line, I mean you should have sort of regular contact with them or does it go as far as knowing the colour of your underwear?

Does the shop sell alcohol? And has the owner known you personally for 3 years?

[sh1981]

I was wondeirng if a local shopkeeper I've been going to to buy fruit, veg and the occassional pot noodles would qualify as my referee for naturalisation application?

She pays VAT.

Looking at this list http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immigrat ... ferees.pdf I can see that we got:

Director/Manager/Personnel
Officer of a VAT
registered Company

However a shopkeeper wouldnt really qualify as a company would they? I mean technically they're sole trader but she does pay the VAT.

And what do they mean when they say you got to know them personally. I mean where do they draw the line, I mean you should have sort of regular contact with them or does it go as far as knowing the colour of your underwear?

Does the shop sell alcohol? And has the owner known you personally for 3 years?

She sells fruits and veg and well pot noodles. Known my wife for ages, knows about me and my situation and well no, no alcohol. Does she qualify? BTW im on about using her as a 'professional' referee, ill use my neighbor or someone as the bog standard british citizen one.

[Amber]

I was wondeirng if a local shopkeeper I've been going to to buy fruit, veg and the occassional pot noodles would qualify as my referee for naturalisation application?

She pays VAT.

Looking at this list http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immigrat ... ferees.pdf I can see that we got:

Director/Manager/Personnel
Officer of a VAT
registered Company

However a shopkeeper wouldnt really qualify as a company would they? I mean technically they're sole trader but she does pay the VAT.

And what do they mean when they say you got to know them personally. I mean where do they draw the line, I mean you should have sort of regular contact with them or does it go as far as knowing the colour of your underwear?

Does the shop sell alcohol? And has the owner known you personally for 3 years?

She sells fruits and veg and well pot noodles. Known my wife for ages, knows about me and my situation and well no, no alcohol. Does she qualify? BTW im on about using her as a 'professional' referee, ill use my neighbor or someone as the bog standard british citizen one.

She qualifies if she's a manager/director of a VAT registered company. She must have known you personally for 3 years.

[sh1981]

I was wondeirng if a local shopkeeper I've been going to to buy fruit, veg and the occassional pot noodles would qualify as my referee for naturalisation application?

She pays VAT.

Looking at this list http://www.gov.im/lib/docs/cso/immigrat ... ferees.pdf I can see that we got:

Director/Manager/Personnel
Officer of a VAT
registered Company

However a shopkeeper wouldnt really qualify as a company would they? I mean technically they're sole trader but she does pay the VAT.

And what do they mean when they say you got to know them personally. I mean where do they draw the line, I mean you should have sort of regular contact with them or does it go as far as knowing the colour of your underwear?

Does the shop sell alcohol? And has the owner known you personally for 3 years?

She sells fruits and veg and well pot noodles. Known my wife for ages, knows about me and my situation and well no, no alcohol. Does she qualify? BTW im on about using her as a 'professional' referee, ill use my neighbor or someone as the bog standard british citizen one.

She qualifies if she's a manager/director of a VAT registered company. She must have known you personally for 3 years.

i know but shes a sole trader! that's what im askin! you honestly think a manager/director of a VAT registered company would be selling fruits and pot noodles?

[Amber]

Does the shop sell alcohol? And has the owner known you personally for 3 years?

She sells fruits and veg and well pot noodles. Known my wife for ages, knows about me and my situation and well no, no alcohol. Does she qualify? BTW im on about using her as a 'professional' referee, ill use my neighbor or someone as the bog standard british citizen one.

She qualifies if she's a manager/director of a VAT registered company. She must have known you personally for 3 years.

i know but shes a sole trader! that's what im askin! you honestly think a manager/director of a VAT registered company would be selling fruits and pot noodles?

If you know the answer why ask the question? Being sarcastic only means you won't get an answer.

[sh1981]

She sells fruits and veg and well pot noodles. Known my wife for ages, knows about me and my situation and well no, no alcohol. Does she qualify? BTW im on about using her as a 'professional' referee, ill use my neighbor or someone as the bog standard british citizen one.

She qualifies if she's a manager/director of a VAT registered company. She must have known you personally for 3 years.

i know but shes a sole trader! that's what im askin! you honestly think a manager/director of a VAT registered company would be selling fruits and pot noodles?

If you know the answer why ask the question? Being sarcastic only means you won't get an answer.

but i dont!
technically doctors are not on list either but ive read they get accepted.

[sh1981]

tell me about the MP!!!!
would he do?

what about someone from home country?

HEY HEY HEY ... what about the POSTMAN????????? POSTMAN!!!!! i see him everyday, last 3 years, YES!!! aaaaaaaaaaayay!

What do you guys think about that?

[cobra]

1. I do not understand why are you stressing yourself to get referees? why can`t you just get anyone with a profession who knows you at least 3 years to sign it. In 2011, we had referees: 1 butcher and and 1 off license salesman to sign my wife AN form and kids MN1 Form. To be honest with you, my wife and 2 kids were granted British citizenship.

2. I recently submitted my own AN Form 2 weeks ago.
My referees are:
Retired Home care
Asylum seekers Social Worker

[Amber]

1. I do not understand why are you stressing yourself to get referees? why can`t you just get anyone with a profession who knows you at least 3 years to sign it. In 2011, we had referees: 1 butcher and and 1 off license salesman to sign my wife AN form and kids MN1 Form. To be honest with you, my wife and 2 kids were granted British citizenship.

2. I recently submitted my own AN Form 2 weeks ago.
My referees are:
Retired Home care
Asylum seekers Social Worker

I think the op is trolling.

[cobra]

1. I do not understand why are you stressing yourself to get referees? why can`t you just get anyone with a profession who knows you at least 3 years to sign it. In 2011, we had referees: 1 butcher and and 1 off license salesman to sign my wife AN form and kids MN1 Form. To be honest with you, my wife and 2 kids were granted British citizenship.

2. I recently submitted my own AN Form 2 weeks ago.
My referees are:
Retired Home care
Asylum seekers Social Worker

I think the op is trolling.

I am not here to troll. I`ve got better things to do than provoking other members. I was giving this info base to my experience.

[sh1981]

1. I do not understand why are you stressing yourself to get referees? why can`t you just get anyone with a profession who knows you at least 3 years to sign it. In 2011, we had referees: 1 butcher and and 1 off license salesman to sign my wife AN form and kids MN1 Form. To be honest with you, my wife and 2 kids were granted British citizenship.

2. I recently submitted my own AN Form 2 weeks ago.
My referees are:
Retired Home care
Asylum seekers Social Worker

now THATs the kind of answer i was looking for. in fact, im going to go see the butcher.

see the thing why i was so worried was because of that damn list where it says acceptable professions. if a butcher did it for you, im sure the vegetable shop owner can do it for me, plus my butcher too. cheers then!

[Amber]

1. I do not understand why are you stressing yourself to get referees? why can`t you just get anyone with a profession who knows you at least 3 years to sign it. In 2011, we had referees: 1 butcher and and 1 off license salesman to sign my wife AN form and kids MN1 Form. To be honest with you, my wife and 2 kids were granted British citizenship.

2. I recently submitted my own AN Form 2 weeks ago.
My referees are:
Retired Home care
Asylum seekers Social Worker

I think the op is trolling.

I am not here to troll. I`ve got better things to do than provoking other members. I was giving this info base to my experience.

I didn't say you were trolling I said the op is trolling.

[sh1981]

1. I do not understand why are you stressing yourself to get referees? why can`t you just get anyone with a profession who knows you at least 3 years to sign it. In 2011, we had referees: 1 butcher and and 1 off license salesman to sign my wife AN form and kids MN1 Form. To be honest with you, my wife and 2 kids were granted British citizenship.

2. I recently submitted my own AN Form 2 weeks ago.
My referees are:
Retired Home care
Asylum seekers Social Worker

I think the op is trolling.

I am not here to troll. I`ve got better things to do than provoking other members. I was giving this info base to my experience.

I didn't say you were trolling I said the op is trolling.

oi stop following my threads! i got my answer

[Amber]

Do we need to send our ILR Biometric card with teh naturalisation application as spouse of a british citizen?

[Amber]

Yes, if using the NCS, it will be a copy of the BRP.

[sh1981]

Yes, if using the NCS, it will be a copy of the BRP.

it wont be at ncs, it'll be by post, do i need to send brp.?

[Amber]

Yes or a certified copy. On a side note, learn some manners when sending someone a PM.

[sh1981]

Yes or a certified copy. On a side note, learn some manners when sending someone a PM.

no on the contrary, you need to learn manners and stop deleting peoples threads. and keep replies to pm's in pm's. anyway thanks for the reply though had you NOT deleted my original thread and directed me to this irrelevant old one, perhaps someone else more knowledgable might have answered it. stop misusing your little authority and leave peoples threads alone.

[Amber]

Perhaps if you aquatint yourself with the rules, you'll drop the attitude.

[Amber]

there is a ques on the AN nationalty form that asks when i got ilr.

did i get ilr on day my spouse visa exipred or did i get ilr on date of issue on the brp?

[Amber]

How many times do you need to be told to stick to this thread?

You are granted ILR on the day you receive the letter stating so. However, for ease most people go by the date of issue on the BRP.

[sh1981]

How many times do you need to be told to stick to this thread?

You are granted ILR on the day you receive the letter stating so. However, for ease most people go by the date of issue on the BRP.

so what happens to the months between end of spouse visa and issue of brp...do those months not count towards anything?

[Amber]

The end of your spouse leave is irrelevant as your leave was extended until such time a decision was made. If you're the spouse/civil partner of a British a Citizen then you don't have to wait for any period after being granted ILR, so long as you have 3 years residency and were physically present in the UK, 3 years prior to the Home Office receiving your application as well as meeting the other standard requirements.