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Gettings parents to UK permanently vs Long term visa

Post by rshelar » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:32 pm

Hi all,

Need some guidance please.

I am currently on ILR and planning to apply for long term family visitor visa (5 years) for my parents to visit the UK.

However, after 5 years I would also like to get them to move to UK permanently.
1. ) With regards to this, can someone please point me to the UKBA link regarding rules and how easy/ difficult this is ?

As I understand that I would need to prove that they have no source of income and that they are dependent on me caring for them?
2.) Is this correct, are there any other requirements ?


Currently my father is working and mom is not. He will be retiring in 2 years and will not have an income of his own. My mom doesnt have any income but has large savings in bank account and has a property in her name.

In the current 5 year visa, I intend to show the property ownership and their bank balances for my parents.
3.) Will the bank balances and property ownership be looked upon negatively in future if I intend to do a permanent application for them ? if yes, what would you suggest ?

Thanks and looking forward to assistance.

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Re: Gettings parents to UK permanently vs Long term visa

Post by Amber » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:34 pm

rshelar wrote:Hi all,

Need some guidance please.

I am currently on ILR and planning to apply for long term family visitor visa (5 years) for my parents to visit the UK.

However, after 5 years I would also like to get them to move to UK permanently.
1. ) With regards to this, can someone please point me to the UKBA link regarding rules and how easy/ difficult this is ?

As I understand that I would need to prove that they have no source of income and that they are dependent on me caring for them?
2.) Is this correct, are there any other requirements ?


Currently my father is working and mom is not. He will be retiring in 2 years and will not have an income of his own. My mom doesnt have any income but has large savings in bank account and has a property in her name.

In the current 5 year visa, I intend to show the property ownership and their bank balances for my parents.
3.) Will the bank balances and property ownership be looked upon negatively in future if I intend to do a permanent application for them ? if yes, what would you suggest ?

Thanks and looking forward to assistance.
See http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... dependent/
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Post by rshelar » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:39 pm

Thanks for the quick reply.

I have been informed that the minimum age to bring adult relatives is 65, however the IDI says 18.

Does anyone have confirmation on this ?

Also, any help with other queries in my first post will be appreciated.

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Post by Amber » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:11 pm

rshelar wrote:Thanks for the quick reply.

I have been informed that the minimum age to bring adult relatives is 65, however the IDI says 18.

Does anyone have confirmation on this ?

Also, any help with other queries in my first post will be appreciated.
18 if they meet the criteria as set out in the link provided. There is also the possibility of ILE if there are compassionate grounds i.e. you support a family member financially and they are in exceptional circumstances (the circumstances must be exceptional and you should have proof).
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Post by MPH80 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:57 pm

There is also the possibility of ILE if there are compassionate grounds i.e. you support a family member financially and they are in exceptional circumstances (the circumstances must be exceptional and you should have proof).
I can't see that under the rules ... http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... relatives/

Can you direct me to the right place?

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Post by Amber » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:48 am

MPH80 wrote:
There is also the possibility of ILE if there are compassionate grounds i.e. you support a family member financially and they are in exceptional circumstances (the circumstances must be exceptional and you should have proof).
I can't see that under the rules ... http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... relatives/

Can you direct me to the right place?
See http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... sandother/
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Post by MPH80 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:26 am

The transitional arrangements suggest that 317 is only valid for someone who has held entry clearance under part 8 prior to application and where's it's still in effect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... -8-app-fm/

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Post by Amber » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:04 pm

MPH80 wrote:The transitional arrangements suggest that 317 is only valid for someone who has held entry clearance under part 8 prior to application and where's it's still in effect.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... -8-app-fm/

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Post by MPH80 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:42 pm

Exactly, I count 2 references to 317- paragraphs C and D. Neither of which provide for this person as both require the parents to have existing leave in the UK under part 8.

What am I missing?

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Post by Amber » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:10 pm

MPH80 wrote:Exactly, I count 2 references to 317- paragraphs C and D. Neither of which provide for this person as both require the parents to have existing leave in the UK under part 8.

What am I missing?
You're right the rule has been scrapped.
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Post by MPH80 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:02 pm

D4109125 wrote:
MPH80 wrote:Exactly, I count 2 references to 317- paragraphs C and D. Neither of which provide for this person as both require the parents to have existing leave in the UK under part 8.

What am I missing?
You're right the rule has been scrapped.
Thank you for clarifying - I thought I was going slightly nuts when I was reading the rules.

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Post by rshelar » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:12 pm

Sorry guys, but can you please summarise the few posts above this one ?

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Post by MPH80 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:16 pm

The compassionate option mentioned here:
There is also the possibility of ILE if there are compassionate grounds i.e. you support a family member financially and they are in exceptional circumstances (the circumstances must be exceptional and you should have proof).
Doesn't exist any more.

We were debating the technicalities of the rules.

Please make sure you read the rules - particularly focus on E-ECDR.2.4 and E-ECDR.2.5. These rules make a settlement visa for parents very, very, hard.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/polic ... relatives/

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Post by vinny » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:20 am

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