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BCMN1 wrote:I got this reply today from:
NationalityPolicyTeam.Liverpool@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
My application took 7 months and 12 days.....!!!!!!!!!Thank you for your further enquiry regarding the requirements for naturalisation as a British citizen under section 6(1) of the British Nationality Act 1981. You specifically refer to the requirement to have been free of immigration time restrictions on the date of application and for the preceding 12 month period.
As previously explained, the Secretary of State does have the discretion to disregard immigration time restrictions in the final 12 months if, consideration of an application for indefinite leave to remain, made more than 15 months before the citizenship application, had been protracted through no fault of the applicant, providing ILR was eventually granted. This policy is covered in Chapter 18 Annex B paragraph 7.5 (g) of the Nationality guidance.
Our service standards, as detailed on our website, states that 95% of postal settlement applications will be decided within six months. Applicants therefore have a legitimate expectation that their application will take 6 months to decide.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas ... tingtimes/
Applications that take longer than this, where the delay was outside of the persons control, will normally be considered under Chapter 18 Annex B paragraph 7.5 (g) when an application for British citizenship is made. However, as detailed in my previous correspondence to you, neither of your applications for Indefinite Leave to Remain can be considered to have been protracted, as referred to in Chapter 18 Annex B paragraph 7.5(g) of the nationality guidance. Both of your ILR applications were considered in accordance with the Immigration Rules and the appropriate decisions were reached by the deciding officer. The fact that discretion was exercised in your second application does not indicate that the first decision was incorrect in any way.
In conclusion, when applying for British citizenship under section 6(1) of the 1981 Act you must ensure that you can fulfil the requirement to have been free of immigration time restrictions for 12 months beforehand. An application received before 7 February 2014 is therefore unlikely to be successful.
Regards
Mrs C R
Seems like they have decided not to approve my BC application before 7 Feb 2014.
I am in a dilemma.........
Dear John,John wrote:I find this very unsatisfactory as regards what UKBA is doing here. I think the wording of 7.5.g is pretty clear and if they really do not mean to have a reference to 15 months in that, but instead really mean to have a reference to 18 months, then they really do need to change the guidance they give to their staff in 7.5.g.
adkh2_1 wrote:Hi All,
i was granted ILR(10 years basis) back in april, although i submitted my application for iLR on the 25th of Sep 2012. Hence according to 15 months rule i can apply for British Citizenship on on 25th of Dec.
is Anybody dealt with similar sort of situation before on this forum ?
you helps on this is much appreciated !!!!
Good luck to those who have applied
Seems pretty clear to me. Plus, whilst UKBA do have a discretion, they need to use their discretion fairly and consistently, and in my opinion the staff instructions quoted above are unambiguous.I can confirm that in accordance with the Nationality staff instructions, discretion to disregard immigration time restrictions would be applied in a case such as outlined below.
BCMN1 wrote:Thanks Spidery_thread,
Actually I did apply via postal route yesterday, with certified copies of my passports.
Lets see what will be the outcome?
Many Thanks
Damanisshallo wrote:I've received a letter from the newly formed UK Visas & Immigration apologizing for the delay caused in dealing with my complaint (Not application) lodged with them after waiting for more than 7 1/2 months and confirming that they've looked into my complaint lately and learnt that I've now been issued with an ILR and that they are closing my complaint apparently.
My next step will be, to write to them attaching this letter (which I've received) asking them to confirm whether the delay in dealing with my application was caused purely due to the overwhelming applications they've received and not of my fault.
I'm hoping to get a response (If at all I get one) within the next 2 months so that I can use this against my Naturalisation Application under Para 7.5g
Out of context, what is Diamond Member means??????
Hi BCMN1,
Any news on your application?
Cheers!
Reply(4 Dec 13):To,
The Chief Caseworker,
Nationality Directorate
Liverpool
Dear Sirs/Madam,
I am writing in relation to my application for Naturalisation which was made on 24 Oct 2013 by Royal Mail Special Delivery No. **GB delivered at your office on 25 Oct 2013.
I am well aware of the fact that as per Royal Mail's website it is delivered to your office however its been more than 5 weeks since this application was made and I am yet to receive an acknowledgement from UKBA and the application fee is also not debited from my credit card account.
I would like to draw your attention to the immigration rules change period of 9 July 2012. Where a very large number of applications were made; 3926 SET(O) applications only and yet I received my ILR application acknowledgement within 5 working days of making the application.
I would also want you to be in my shoes and feel that its very frustrating for an applicant to first surrender the passport for more than 7 months for ILR application with UKBA in one year through another and then again has to wait for 6 months to get a decision on Naturalisation application!
Although I totally understand that UKBA needs to fulfill its responsibility to make correct decisions for a high volume service to quality decisions. But the amount of time taken to reach these decisions beyond imagination.
UKBA Visa & Nationality fee is one of the highest in the world, approx 66% over and above the cost of application and yet delays are quite common.
I therefore request you to kindly look into this matter generally and place a contingency plan to reduce these delays and make the application process digital and online traceable by the applicants(atleast for your own department).
I'll highly appreciate your response in this matter".
2nd Complaint 30 Jan 2014:Thank you for your email.
You should receive an acknowledgment letter between 4-6 weeks after we received your application. During busy periods this may even take 7 weeks as payment will take longer to clear. It is quite likely your application is queued still awaiting payment to clear.
I am sorry that you find it necessary to complain about the service offered by the Home Office. We aim to provide a first class service.
You may also wish to consult our website for more information on our complain procedure:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/about ... complaint/
Your complaint will be managed by one of our customer service units (CSUs). They are responsible for ensuring that your complaint is resolved in a satisfactory and timely manner. We will send you an acknowledgement, telling you which CSU is dealing with your complaint.
We aim to give a full response within 20 working days. If your complaint alleges serious professional misconduct by our staff or people working for us, it may take up to 12 weeks for a detailed, independent investigation to be completed. We may contact you during an investigation for further information.
Kind Regards, Customer Service Advisor.
Thank you for your email. I did receive my acknowledgement letter on 23 Dec 2013.
However its been more than 3 months since I have applied for Naturalization and yet to receive a decision on my application.
I would like to draw your attention towards an online Immigration forum: http://www.immigrationsboards.com
Where some of the applicants have posted their time line for the Naturalisation Applications: e.g:
Date of Application: 1/11/2013
Date of receipt by UKBA: 05/11/2013
Date of receipt of acknowledgement letter : 15/01/09
Date of approval: 15/01/2014
Date of receipt of approval: 22/01/2014
Standard requirements remains the same (except spouse of BC) for all the applicants; so if the above applicant received their approval letter who has applied 1 week after my application and was approved 2 weeks ago, Why my application is taking longer and is not dealt within the above time frame.
At one place your website says: "You should think very carefully before applying if you require your passport within the next three months".
and on the same page: "Our service standards set out how quickly we aim to decide applications for British citizenship. The standard is that we will decide 95% of applications within six months".
Which gives a false sense of idea that an application will be decided within 3 months.
Since Feb 2012 when the service standard for all Immigration applications were changed from 4-14 weeks to 6 months; UKBA's time standard of dealing with applications has drastically declined.
From 2-4 weeks average turnaround time it went above 6 months.
Here are the facts:
All my extensions from Nov 2002 until Oct 2008 took an average of 3 weeks.
My Tier 1 PSW Application took 9 months and 17 days to decide!
MY ILR Application took 7 months and 12 days to decide(which made me eligible to apply for Naturalisation under section 7.5g)
Now its been more than 3 months towards my Naturalisation application.
I therefore request you kindly allocate my application to a case worker and provide me with an actual update on my application.
Sincerely,
Thank you for your email.
I have checked our records and can confirm that no decision has yet been made on your application.
All applications for citizenship are subject to enquiries to ensure that the statutory requirements have been satisfied. Because of these enquiries, we anticipate that applications may take up to six months to complete. Some applications may be dealt with more quickly and some may take longer, depending on the nature of the enquiries to be carried out. Our service standards set out how quickly we aim to decide applications for British citizenship. The standard is that we will decide 95% of applications within six months.
When the decision is made, or if we require further information from you, we will contact you in writing.
Please ensure you notify us promptly if you change your address. Your address can be updated here:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/about ... y-details/
If you require any documents back, these can be requested here: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/about ... documents/. Requesting documents will not negatively impact on the application.
Kind Regards
Customer Service Advisor
I wish to make a formal complaint against the length of time it has been taken to decide Naturalisation Application which is pending with Nationality Directorate for almost over 3 1/2 months.
From the period of 25 Oct 2013 to till date, no decision has been taken on my application; so where is my application?
As per you service standard!!!! which states,"that we will decide 95% of applications within six months".
Why decision on my applications are made near and beyond 6 months mark rather than the beginning or middle of 6 months like other applicants?
I am well aware of an application which was decided in 6 weeks rather than six months. What checks you need to make which cannot be carried out in 6 weeks and need 6 months to complete?
When Home Office brought the new policy of English test require for Naturalisation application; did the staff fail to forecast the number of application Nationality Department will receive and no extra staff was deployed for this massive flock of application?
If I may remind you of 9 July 2012 rules and refer you to a FOI request No. 25651
"time taken to complete a specific SET O application will depend which route of
settlement is being applied for on the application form, a small number of applications are
currently extending beyond the 6 month target however a plan is in place to bring all routes
back within service standard".
Where is this plan? Was there no similar plan placed for Naturalisation Applications to improve the standard from 6 months to a lesser time?
If you put your self in my shoes, you'll imagine how frustrating it is for me to wait unnecessarily for my Nationality Application where in the past I waited 1 year 4 months and 24 days just for 2 applications?
I do not know.BCMN1 wrote:Hi Ged,
One thing I came across and that lady told me yesterday that 'Nationality Character Checks' are done before its allocated to a case worker....!!!!
If this is the case what does a caseworker do then?
Rest is 2+2.
This does look annoying.BCMN1 wrote:Date of Ack Letter: 19-12-2013
Date of Fee Debt: 19-12-2013
BCMN1 wrote:I had Police caution in 2003 which I did mention in my application, always paid my taxes. Clean driving licence, no CCJ, no penalty ticket issues.