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Same immigration system shared between Ireland and the UK

Post by yt1983 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:54 pm

Hi all,


I was refused entry last week at the Heathrow airport coming back from Frankfurt. Had been in the UK since 1st August with a visitor visa they stamped on my passport then flew to Germany for 3 days then it happened.

Long story short, I was sent home after a few interviews and later on found out there is entry refusal stamp left on my passport.

Since I got back home, I have been seeking advice, talking to a lawyer as I am desperate to be back in the UK ASAP as I left all my stuff there.

At this stage, my questions is that, according to what the lawyer says, provided Ireland and the UK have the same immigration system, even if I fly into Ireland and travel to the UK (by air, ferry or bus..) I might get refused entry in Ireland as they can see my entry refusal history in their system. Having said that, if I read this page on UKBA page below, as long as the Irish immigration let me in the country with a visitor visa, I won't be checked when entering the UK border, is it correct?


http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/custo ... ravelarea/


If what I know is right, it would be still risky to fly into London by air so as someone has advised me, I'd consider of travelling by ferry as she told me that, by travelling by a ferry, I can avoid immigration officer. Is this also true?


Your comments and advice will be highly appreciated! Thanks!

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Post by jeupsy » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:36 pm

Did they say why you were refused entry to the UK? Was your visa expired or was there another reason?

In any case, it is not a good idea to try to go back to the UK via Ireland without getting this cleared first.

1. Unless you already have a visa for Ireland you would need to apply for one (the UK visa holder waiver program would not work for you I think since you wouldn't be coming from the UK)
2. The Irish border control officer will see you were refused entry to the UK and question you about this
3. Even you you could get through and then make it to the UK, you would be illegal there

So I think the first thing is to know why you were refused and get that cleared up with British authorities.

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Post by EUsmileWEallsmile » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:29 pm

I suggest you deal with the reasons for your refusal first rather than trying to evade immigration law and compounding matters.

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Post by loverboy2 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:41 pm

And one more thing my friend.this time if u are stopped at uk borders coming from ireland.they gonna put you in a jail for a while and then send u home.so think carefully before you take some action,it happened with my friend.good luck

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Hi jeupsy

Post by yt1983 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:59 am

Yes, they give me the reasons why I was refused.

I had been in the country since the beginning of August with a visitor visa they stamped at the passport control when entering but when coming back from Germany last week, they weren't satisfied with my answers to the questions they asked me;

1)What I had been doing since 1st August; A)I told them that I'd been spending some quality time with my partner

2)Why my return ticket says that I am intending to stay in the country for another 2 months; A)I also told them that I want to spend some more time with my partner

which are both true.

I entered the country with a visitor visa so the visa I was given was basically not valid once I left the country and I was hoping to get another one.

1. As South Korean national, I wouldn't need a visa to travel to Ireland.
2. So you mean, Ireland and the UK share the same immigration system?
3. It won't be illegal if I come to the UK with a visitor visa they will (hopefully) give me if they do?

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Post by vinny » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:54 am

Please contintinue in other thread.
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