Do parking fines,bus lane & FPN affect my citizenship ap

[Tahadeel]

It's not a conviction.

Thanks for your respond.

Based in the HO issuance of Nationality Guidance & Casework instructio. In section 3. Criminal convections non-custodial sentences.

"Where a fixed penalty notice or fiscal fine has been referred to a court due to non-payment OR the notice has been unsuccessfully challenged by the person in court, the decision maker will consider this a conviction and assessed in line with the new sentence imposed."
Isn't this rule applied on my case?!

Thanks

[Amber]

A conviction relates to a FPN issued by the police that is defended and the defendant is subsequently found guilty at a Court. I admit that the guidance is poorly worded.

[Tahadeel]

A conviction relates to a FPN issued by the police that is defended and the defendant is subsequently found guilty at a Court. I admit that the guidance is poorly worded.

It's a good news for me but how did you specify it for the FPN issued by police?

[Amber]

Because a conviction can only be attained at a criminal court. I am trying to get a definition of a FPN for the purpose of Good Character and shall update when I do.

[Tahadeel]

Because a conviction can only be attained at a criminal court. I am trying to get a definition of a FPN for the purpose of Good Character and shall update when I do.

Thanks
In next march 2014 I'll have no any FPN or PCN fall in the last 12 prior to my application for citizenship!!!

Do you advise me to apply or not?!

[Tahadeel]

Because a conviction can only be attained at a criminal court. I am trying to get a definition of a FPN for the purpose of Good Character and shall update when I do.

Thanks
In next march 2014 I'll have no any FPN or PCN fall in the last 12 prior to my application for citizenship!!!

Do you advise me to apply or not?!

Hello

I keep saying that my FPN which took place in last Dec 2012 is not through court, but what I'm confused about now that although I did not go to court I have 3 points on my counterpart & under the " Convicting Court Code" I have no. filled in by police or court when I sent my driving licences & and counterpart to be endorsed by 3 points!!!!
Speed limit was 30 while I was driving 47. Police officer stop on spot and did not give the FPN on spot. They sent a letter by post saying I have to pay £60 and accept 3 points!!!
Does that mean the FPN was through court? And if it is I have to wait to Dec 2015????!!!


Please help.

[Amber]

It would appear so. Give the local magistrates a ring tomorrow and ask them to check whether you were convicted. A summons for court is usually at 50mph in a 30mph zone.

[Tahadeel]

It would appear so. Give the local magistrates a ring tomorrow and ask them to check whether you were convicted. A summons for court is usually at 50mph in a 30mph zone.

Hello

I did contact the DVLA to ask them about the FPN I have on my driving license if it was through magistrate court or Conditinal FBN only and they replied back the following:

"I can confirm that convicting court code 1723 is the court/fixed penalty office that dealt with the offence.

You will need to contact the convicting court/fixed penalty office for further information on the details below:

HMCTS
North West Regional Fixed Penalties
PO BOX 399
Manchester
M60 1FB

Tel: 0161 830 4200"

Do you think that the FPN I have is a criminal conviction which will lead home office to refuse me for 3 years?

Thanks

[Heisgood]

It would appear so. Give the local magistrates a ring tomorrow and ask them to check whether you were convicted. A summons for court is usually at 50mph in a 30mph zone.

Hello

I did contact the DVLA to ask them about the FPN I have on my driving license if it was through magistrate court or Conditinal FBN only and they replied back the following:

"I can confirm that convicting court code 1723 is the court/fixed penalty office that dealt with the offence.

You will need to contact the convicting court/fixed penalty office for further information on the details below:

HMCTS
North West Regional Fixed Penalties
PO BOX 399
Manchester
M60 1FB

Tel: 0161 830 4200"

Do you think that the FPN I have is a criminal conviction which will lead home office to refuse me for 3 years?

Thanks

Tahadeel -Are you sure you didn't plead guilty by post? If you did your counterpart will state

Court Code - some number - Usually affiliated to a magistrate court
Offence code
Date of offence - xx/yy/zz
Date of conviction - aa/bb/cc >This is the key bit
Actual sentence or fine

I hope not, else HO will view this as a court conviction and your application will fall into the 3yr refusal category.

[Heisgood]

I am corresponding with a senior caseworker to get clarification.

Hi Amber,

As per above did you get any update from the senior caseworker on this?

[Amber]

Still waiting.will update when I do.

[Tahadeel]

It would appear so. Give the local magistrates a ring tomorrow and ask them to check whether you were convicted. A summons for court is usually at 50mph in a 30mph zone.

Hello

I did contact the DVLA to ask them about the FPN I have on my driving license if it was through magistrate court or Conditinal FBN only and they replied back the following:

"I can confirm that convicting court code 1723 is the court/fixed penalty office that dealt with the offence.

You will need to contact the convicting court/fixed penalty office for further information on the details below:

HMCTS
North West Regional Fixed Penalties
PO BOX 399
Manchester
M60 1FB

Tel: 0161 830 4200"

Do you think that the FPN I have is a criminal conviction which will lead home office to refuse me for 3 years?

Thanks

Tahadeel -Are you sure you didn't plead guilty by post? If you did your counterpart will state

Court Code - some number - Usually affiliated to a magistrate court
Offence code
Date of offence - xx/yy/zz
Date of conviction - aa/bb/cc >This is the key bit
Actual sentence or fine

I hope not, else HO will view this as a court conviction and your application will fall into the 3yr refusal category.

Thank
Today I managed to ring the court/FP office. They said it was not sent to court and it's only FP.

In the counterpart it's mentioned the convicting court code but no date of convicting.

I remember that I did receive a conditional offer which was 3 points with £60.

But I'm still confused!!!!!

[Amber]

If it wasn't issued by the Court it's an FPN.

[Heisgood]

It would appear so. Give the local magistrates a ring tomorrow and ask them to check whether you were convicted. A summons for court is usually at 50mph in a 30mph zone.

Hello

I did contact the DVLA to ask them about the FPN I have on my driving license if it was through magistrate court or Conditinal FBN only and they replied back the following:

"I can confirm that convicting court code 1723 is the court/fixed penalty office that dealt with the offence.

You will need to contact the convicting court/fixed penalty office for further information on the details below:

HMCTS
North West Regional Fixed Penalties
PO BOX 399
Manchester
M60 1FB

Tel: 0161 830 4200"

Do you think that the FPN I have is a criminal conviction which will lead home office to refuse me for 3 years?

Thanks

Tahadeel -Are you sure you didn't plead guilty by post? If you did your counterpart will state

Court Code - some number - Usually affiliated to a magistrate court
Offence code
Date of offence - xx/yy/zz
Date of conviction - aa/bb/cc >This is the key bit
Actual sentence or fine

I hope not, else HO will view this as a court conviction and your application will fall into the 3yr refusal category.

Thank
Today I managed to ring the court/FP office. They said it was not sent to court and it's only FP.

In the counterpart it's mentioned the convicting court code but no date of convicting.

I remember that I did receive a conditional offer which was 3 points with £60.

But I'm still confused!!!!!

But I'm still confused!!!!! ??

You should be rejoicing that you didn't fall in the 3yrs waiting trap. Simple - it's an FPN and not a court conviction. Reread the good character requirements in the sticky above and hopefully the confusion will go away. All the best with your application.

[Tahadeel]

Hello
I rang the HM Court & Tribunals Service, Fixed Penalty Office Court Audd Dept regarding my speed offence occurred on 01/12/2012 and asked them to sent me a letter about the offence, and they did but the letter has the followings:

The Letter is on HM Courts & Tribunal Service headed letter saying: Re: Fixed Penalty Notice No. xxxxxxx Date 01/12/12
Receipt No. xxxxxxx then "I'm writing to confirm receipt of your payment £60...........and your driving licence duly endorsed with 3 penalty points.

Singed by
Regional Fixed Penalty Office."

Does that mean I have been given FPN through court although I was not summoned to court or pleaded guilty on paper?!!!!

What do you think?

Thanks

[mhsadique]

I am corresponding with a senior caseworker to get clarification.

Would you please let me know I did apply already for naturalization. Got a parking ticket with in the bay but cm touch single yellow line. Did pay fine next day.

Q is that need to inform home office or not.
This in only one in this council in 2 year

[runloverun]

Hi Tahadeel,

Did you manage to appy ? and how did the application go

I am prettymuch in the same state, as I got one PCN for junction box and I paid £60 (5th Dec 2014) and applied for naturalisation in 10th December 2014, and today I recieved a FPN with 3 points for not stopping at Red signal.
I didnt disclose the PCN on my application as I only had one in the last 12 months do I need to Inform HO about the FPN I just recieved ?

Regards,
Tharun