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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Godwin111 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:42 pm

I apply befor my visa run out.she was 8months pregant wen i made the application.so after 2months home office wrote that for dem to consider my matter.i should send dem my daugther birth cerficate and DNA test to prove am the father and a letter from my baby health vistor that i hav access rigth to my baby.i gav dem all dey ask for expect the DNA test.dey den refuse my application cos i did not giv me reseasonable exuse not to submit a DNA test.and i was giving the giving of Appeal

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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by strontiumdog74 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:43 pm

CR001 wrote:Any reason why you cannot just cut a small bit of the child hair? Make a bit of effort and use your imagination. You won't succeed if you do not provide DNA evidence.
I just did a google search for approved DNA testers for UKVI, something I am assuming the OP could have done himself and this is the list:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/paternity-t ... boratories

Reading the details on just one of the sites the samples need to be taken by an independent third party and cannot just be provided by the OP himself (for obvious reasons). Details can be found here as an example:

http://dadcheckgold.com/our-dna-testing ... ollection/
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Godwin111 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:46 pm

My lawyer did the grounds of appeal for me.my lawyer said i only need my parnter in court to tell the judge that am the parent of my child and that i play active role in my child upbringin.

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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Casa » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:47 pm

OK. So you have to prove that the child is yours. How will you do that when you're not able to submit a DNA test, a birth certificate won't be sufficient evidence and the court won't accept your ex-partner's word that you are the biological father? :?:
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by strontiumdog74 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:47 pm

Godwin111 wrote:I apply befor my visa run out.she was 8months pregant wen i made the application.so after 2months home office wrote that for dem to consider my matter.i should send dem my daugther birth cerficate and DNA test to prove am the father and a letter from my baby health vistor that i hav access rigth to my baby.i gav dem all dey ask for expect the DNA test.dey den refuse my application cos i did not giv me reseasonable exuse not to submit a DNA test.and i was giving the giving of Appeal
I don't see that you have any grounds for appeal, they told you what evidence you were required to submit and you failed to do so. CR001 or Casa please tell me if I am wrong but I can't see that an appeal would be successful based on the info provided so far.

In that case you need to re-apply for a visa again.

You will therefore be asked to provide the same thing again.

You therefore need to either get your ex to agree to a DNA test by an approved centre or you need to get her compelled to do so by the court.

I think I am back to.... you need to get legal advice on doing this?
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by strontiumdog74 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:49 pm

Godwin111 wrote:My lawyer did the grounds of appeal for me.my lawyer said i only need my parnter in court to tell the judge that am the parent of my child and that i play active role in my child upbringin.
If your lawyer has told you this why do you even need our advice?

I assume you will be paying him on a no win no fee basis?
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Godwin111 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:54 pm

And she is currently 5 months pregnant for me just.we are expectin our second baby.

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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Casa » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:02 pm

@strontiumdog74 I concur with your view.

@Godwin111 Your partner's pregnancy will change nothing apart from the fact that you would need two DNA tests. Are you waiting for members on the forum to agree with your lawyer? I for one, am unable to do that as I don't believe for one moment that a court will simply take your ex-partner's word on the paternity.
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Casa » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:13 pm

Godwin111 wrote:And she is currently 5 months pregnant for me just.we are expectin our second baby.
I thought you said you broke up when your partner had your first baby? :?
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by strontiumdog74 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:55 pm

I'm sorry but your story has more holes than swiss cheese and I'm starting to suspect you're just trolling.

You say you applied for parent visa when she was still pregnant, I have no experience but I find this hard to accept. Surely the forms will ask you for details of the child you're applying for, you know like name, place of birth and Date of Birth.

Assuming that I'm wrong and you can and did apply then, I assume your speed to apply was due to your student visa running out soon. . So how are you not overstaying?

You state that you financially support the child and see it regularly but then state she won't let you see the child. I assume you are independently wealthy as you are able to support a child, yourself and retain legal counsel whilst being on a student visa which restricts your working.

You state that you split with her when the baby was born, it's now 9 months but she's also 5 months pregnant with another child of yours.

How did you pass the English requirements to study in the UK when your use of the English language is so poor?
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by noajthan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:07 pm

Whoopi Goldberg has no problem with DNA and she is of Sierra Leone heritage.

Why do you spell Sierra Leone differently every time?
even with atrocious language skills (for a student) you should be able to spell your near-neighbouring country.

And why can you not make up your mind where the mother actually is?
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by strontiumdog74 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:47 am

OK, as I hate not knowing things and like to get things squared away I searched for the FLR FP form:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... _05-16.pdf

You clearly need to add a lot of information about the child, I don't see how you can possibly do that prior to the child being born.

It also seems that you need to provide a valid IELTS or proof that your course was taught in English, I won't comment any further on that issue for fear it's too aggressive but I think everyone knows what I mean.

On that note unless you can actually clear up the issues and tell a genuine story that doesn't have so many holes in it then I am giving up on this thread. On the plus I have learnt some things about FLR FP so not a total waste of time.
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Family life as parent of a birtish child application refuse

Post by Godwin111 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:21 am

Hello guys remember i posted my case here some months ago and i was advice to get legal advice.so i did it.lawyer said i should tak my child mother to court for me to again access to my child.that if access rigth to my child is granted to me i could use that in my appeal.

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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by noajthan » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:22 am

Posts merged.

No need for multiple posts.
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Godwin111 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:39 am

Godwin111 wrote:Hello guys remember i posted my case here some months ago and i was advice to get legal advice.so i did it.lawyer said i should tak my child mother to court for me to again access to my child.that if access rigth to my child is granted to me i could use that in my appeal.
Pls guys helo me with ur answers

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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by Casa » Tue Aug 23, 2016 9:44 am

Patience! You've bumped your post after only 20 minutes! What exactly is your question?

Your lawyer knows more about your chance of succeeding with a court appearance than anyone on the forum.
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Re: Family life as parent of a birtish child application ref

Post by dante2nv » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:04 am

Guys, pls Stop wasting valuable time on this guy. He's not straightforward, too much stories.

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