Tax payment after amendment is must?

[jan39]

Amended tax return recently, got a update tax bill from HMRC, haven't paid yet, was told tax payment is not required by HO as it's something between you and HMRC. Want to pay tax in instalments or after 3-4 months as cannot afford right now.
Any views or info?
Thank you

[monty87]

was told tax payment is not required by HO as it's something between you and HMRC.

Its not between YOU and HMRC, if it was the case then there would not have been so many refusals from Home Office on tax affairs. Home Office expect you to pay tax on declared earnings to HMRC at the time. It is not a credible explanation that you have made profit from earnings and cannot afford to pay tax or why you did not pay tax at the time.

(j) (iv) Verification of previous earnings claims with declarations made in respect of the applicant to other Government Departments, including declarations made in respect of earnings claimed by the applicant in previous applications.

Paragraph 19 (f)(iii) a document produced by a person, business, or company as an official return to a tax authority, showing details of earnings on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, and which has been approved, registered, or stamped by the tax authority.

[jan39]

was told tax payment is not required by HO as it's something between you and HMRC.

Its not between YOU and HMRC, if it was the case then there would not have been so many refusals from Home Office on tax affairs. Home Office expect you to pay tax on declared earnings to HMRC at the time. It is not a credible explanation that you have made profit from earnings and cannot afford to pay tax or why you did not pay tax at the time.

(j) (iv) Verification of previous earnings claims with declarations made in respect of the applicant to other Government Departments, including declarations made in respect of earnings claimed by the applicant in previous applications.

Paragraph 19 (f)(iii) a document produced by a person, business, or company as an official return to a tax authority, showing details of earnings on which tax has been paid or will be paid in a tax year, and which has been approved, registered, or stamped by the tax authority.

I agree with your first logical argument that they expect you to pay but it's not required, as the references you provided say the same thing:
1. Declaration of earnings means to declare to tax authority and that's been done.
2. Document produced to tax authority is a tax return, (amended or not).
I cannot see anywhere through these rules that tax must be paid. The reference you provided clearly says 'tax has been paid or will be paid'.

[monty87]

Anything that falls short of Home office expectation(Standard) will be refused on their discretion whether someone disagree or agree. If everyone keep saying Home Office can expect me to pay tax but I don't think its requirement at the moment it is considered misconduct as per Home office standard. Unless, you can prove to HO that there had been a genuine error with no intention to evade tax at the time.

[Casa]

You should also be aware that in many cases, the HO Case Workers are taking the view that tax amendments were only submitted due to the impending visa application, resulting in a refusal.

[Wanderer]

It's fraud if dividends have been distributed out of revenue collected for HMRC, namely Corporation Tax.

[jan39]

I have amended tax return, sa302 not updated as HMRC says it cannot be updated any more for previous years, the sa302 is still showing old figures but the online tax year overview show the new figures of tax only.
My question is what figures HO get from HMRC in case of any verification, the old ones or new ones after amendment?
Just confused to submit sa302 or tax year overview with application. As I know both are acceptable? But in case of verification they get figures of sa302 only from HMRC?
Share your views please.
Thank you

[CR001]

It is not necessary to start a new topic with each question you have on the same application.

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[jan39]

It is not necessary to start a new topic with each question you have on the same application.

See Multiple Posts/Topics (click)

Ok, but the nature of question was different, I hope you could answer it.
Also I am not sure if it's the right place to complain or not but I tried hard to find the search option on this website, because I know the questions I asked would be already on this forum, but unfortunately there is no search option on this website which should be here to avoid duplicate questions.
I manage to find the search box a few days ago, but now can't find it despite following the FAQs etc. Why is it so complicated to find it? Why not an easy search option on top of the web page to make it easy? Or the search option is not available any more?
Thank you for understanding

[noajthan]

There is a search option. I see it at top of almost every page.

[CR001]

Some or most of the newly registered members don't seem to have the search option.

[jan39]

There is a search option. I see it at top of almost every
page.

Just tried again and realised the fault, not sure but looks like it's the website fault. When I login, the search box disappears and I can't see the search box on any page till I am login, when I log out the search box becomes available on top of the page, tried different browser but same problem.

[jan39]

Some or most of the newly registered members don't seem to have the search option.

What's the reason for it? Search option should be available to anyone regardless new member or old. Very strange, search option is for finding more info easily.

[monty87]

I have amended tax return, sa302 not updated as HMRC says it cannot be updated any more for previous years, the sa302 is still showing old figures but the online tax year overview show the new figures of tax only.
My question is what figures HO get from HMRC in case of any verification, the old ones or new ones after amendment?
Just confused to submit sa302 or tax year overview with application. As I know both are acceptable? But in case of verification they get figures of sa302 only from HMRC?
Share your views please.
Thank you

Home Office don't have access to amended returns data and HMRC don't update out of date tax returns online apart from tax overview that also shows any interests/penalties paid as a result of any amendments.

I would suggest to submit revised paper sa302s from hmrc and tax overview for the amended returns from online account.

[jan39]

Home Office don't have access to amended returns data and HMRC don't update out of date tax returns online apart from tax overview that also shows any interests/penalties paid as a result of any amendments.

I would suggest to submit revised paper sa302s from hmrc and tax overview for the amended returns from online account.[/quote]

What do you mean by 'revised paper sa302s from hmrc'?
sa302 will show the old figures as it cannot be revised/updated any more for that year.
We can get tax overview print or sa302 print from my online account for all years.
Thank you