*Urgent Info needed,FLR(FP)Parent of British Born child

[A_King]

Hi,
I Don't know where to start from but here is my streamline where i need advice from experts in this forum.

I Came to UK on 12-Mar-2014 and got some 2.5 years Spouse Visa which is Due Ending on 20-Nov-2016.

I am currently spouse of my wife(British Citizen), and we have 2 year old child (British Born)+ one step Child 6 year from wife's previous broken relationship (British Born).

(The Hard Part) , Due to few some close corrupted peoples involvement from her side/in to our life that created unpleasant attitude of her towards me, and my wife unfortunately don't want to go ahead with my spouse visa extension which is due after some 2.5 months on 20-Nov-2016 ,

(And before that , we were planning on , how should be do the extention FLR (M)!) (what a surprise)

I have supported my family from day one in every thing. she didn't work for a penny rather then was on housing benefits. my proof of address were at different place for some 18 months and i moved them all in April 2016 to this place where we where living

I have mentioned her to stop claiming benefits after coming to UK on mar 2014 and told her my Further Application will be affected.

She agreed to stop benefits on April 2016 after some 17 months on my request.

Now she want to start benefits again and to go back as single mother to claim housing benefits.(which is not happened yet). but iam aware she waiting for appointment date. and she ask me leave the house !

Dear experts Kindly advice me as iam in very troublesome situation,

Please Advise, which is best FLR (M) or FLR (FP) and

what are the senario if i want to get my extension done on the basis of my Child?
what proof i have to give and how many years it will take for the settlement?
What are the requirements for FLR (FP) for Parent of British Child?

Any Advice will be much appreciated,

Many Thanks,

[Casa]

If you are no longer living with your spouse but are sharing in your child's upbringing, you can apply under FLR(FP) parent route.

[A_King]

Hello Casa,

Many thanks for your prompt reply, Further to that.

Is that true if i apply on basis of my child FLR (FP) my previous some 25 months will be of no advantage to me for settlement?

i read that FLR (FP) is 10 or 5 years route on parent of Child base ?

Do i need to get court order to see my child and to submit when applying for FLR (FP)

I have all the receipt of house hold support from Day one. (Luckily)

Also worst come to worst if i have to move from this property , what documents do i require to submit that i was living with my wife for that time from day one ? and provide support to both children.

Many Thanks again for your advice sir.

[Casa]

Hello Casa,

Many thanks for your prompt reply, Further to that.

Is that true if i apply on basis of my child FLR (FP) my previous some 25 months will be of no advantage to me for settlement? Correct, unless applying under long residence.

i read that FLR (FP) is 10 or 5 years route on parent of Child base ? Correct

Do i need to get court order to see my child and to submit when applying for FLR (FP) Preferable. Also GP's and/or nursery/school letter

I have all the receipt of house hold support from Day one. (Luckily)

Also worst come to worst if i have to move from this property , what documents do i require to submit that i was living with my wife for that time from day one ? and provide support to both children. Examples such as utility bills, tenancy agreement, council tax etc.

Many Thanks again for your advice sir. Wrongly assumed (Mrs)

Bear in mind that you will be unable to apply under the parent route if you are still living in the same property as your spouse.

[Obie]

To be perfectly honest the rule did not say they cannot live in the same household, but the father and mother cannot be in a sexual relationship.

Have you thought about the fact that she may be pursuing a claim because she does not get financial support from you and going through hardship.

Perhaps if you supported her so she is less dependent, and then you work harder, you may well meet the financial requirements without the need for her to stop her housing benefit.

If she is going through financial difficulties, it is her right to claim these benefit. She is a British Citizen and cannot be precluded to make these claims, provided of course it is not fraudulent.

[A_King]

Hello Casa,

Many thanks for your prompt reply, Further to that.

Is that true if i apply on basis of my child FLR (FP) my previous some 25 months will be of no advantage to me for settlement? Correct, unless applying under long residence.

i read that FLR (FP) is 10 or 5 years route on parent of Child base ? Correct

Do i need to get court order to see my child and to submit when applying for FLR (FP) Preferable. Also GP's and/or nursery/school letter

I have all the receipt of house hold support from Day one. (Luckily)

Also worst come to worst if i have to move from this property , what documents do i require to submit that i was living with my wife for that time from day one ? and provide support to both children. Examples such as utility bills, tenancy agreement, council tax etc.

Many Thanks again for your advice sir. Wrongly assumed (Mrs)

Bear in mind that you will be unable to apply under the parent route if you are still living in the same property as your spouse.

Many Thanks for the reply Madam , your advise is very helpfull.

To be perfectly honest the rule did not say they cannot live in the same household, but the father and mother cannot be in a sexual relationship.

Have you thought about the fact that she may be pursuing a claim because she does not get financial support from you and going through hardship.

Perhaps if you supported her so she is less dependent, and then you work harder, you may well meet the financial requirements without the need for her to stop her housing benefit.

If she is going through financial difficulties, it is her right to claim these benefit. She is a British Citizen and cannot be precluded to make these claims, provided of course it is not fraudulent.

Hi Obie,

Thanks for mentioning this, i know why you thinking this way , but i can assure you there is no financial difficulty as i am supporting and working hard days and nights to meet all the end needs and wants. From rent to all household. from personal expense of her to the desires and kids support ,

there is a missguidance which is leading her to this separation and decision, i dont know how she thinks that benefit will pay every penny of from House rent to food and personal expense.

but think this way if wife gets easy money from benefit then why you need a husband for.

i am at the stage where i also need her support in every thing but she is not of that nature to chip in and wasting number of days in planning i will do this and this and this but never actually do anything.

iam keeping my options open, as iam responsible father and a husband. as at this stage she need a separation that will lead me to leaving this house leaving my job and leaving this country.

i know iam off the topic but thanks obie for your concern.

Any other Advise from expert will be much appreciated.

Thanks

[Obie]

OP please I am not seeking to throw any aspersions on you. You may well be a very hard working husband and treasured father.

I was just making a logical deduction.

Housing benefit is for people who cannot afford to pay their rent, and i assume that she will only have sought to claim it, if she is experiencing difficulty paying the rent and not receiving adequate support from you.

I hope she will see sense, as living with a caring husband that looks after is family is much better than a loan mother on benefits.

I am sure there are many women who will happily cease benefit claim if they have an husband or partner seeking to assist.

Anyway coming back to you immigration query, if she does not want to live with you, then you best option is to come to a formal or informal arrangements in regards to the children, and you will be able to apply under the children under the 5 years route.

[secret.simon]

but think this way if wife gets easy money from benefit then why you need a husband for.

That is a profound thought, with many possible analyses and answers regarding various different aspects.

[Obie]

That is a profound thought, with many possible analyses and answers regarding various different aspects.

It would have been nice to seek your expertise in dissecting the various possible analysis, had it not been for the fact that this will amount to going out of topic.

[A_King]

OP please I am not seeking to throw any aspersions on you. You may well be a very hard working husband and treasured father.

I was just making a logical deduction.

Housing benefit is for people who cannot afford to pay their rent, and i assume that she will only have sought to claim it, if she is experiencing difficulty paying the rent and not receiving adequate support from you.

I hope she will see sense, as living with a caring husband that looks after is family is much better than a loan mother on benefits.

I am sure there are many women who will happily cease benefit claim if they have an husband or partner seeking to assist.

Anyway coming back to you immigration query, if she does not want to live with you, then you best option is to come to a formal or informal arrangements in regards to the children, and you will be able to apply under the children under the 5 years route.

Hi Obie,

Many Thanks for the reply , yes i totally agree with you. but lets see as she is the decision maker of her and kids life.

can you please advise me on the 5 years route ,

My previous 2.5 years will be counted as well ?

How much the fee costs ?

please can you mention what are the requirements for this 5 years route ?

how much time the time duration is after submission of the application?

Premium service is better or sending by post is better option?

what other important evidence and documents will be needed ?

many thanks again obie.

[Obie]

The cost to date including NHS surcharge is 1311.

You do not meet the requirement yet, as it appears that notwithstanding the threats, you still seem to be in a relationship, albeit a shaky one.

I am not sure she will want you to have much to do with kids, as this may affect any loan parents benefit you may wish to claim. Therefore she may not allows a formal or informal arrangement on the child to be drafted.

In those circumstances, you may need to approach the court for a Child Arrangement order.

[secret.simon]

That is a profound thought, with many possible analyses and answers regarding various different aspects.

It would have been nice to seek your expertise in dissecting the various possible analysis, had it not been for the fact that this will amount to going out of topic.

Which is why I did not expand further.