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Re: referee question

Post by Angie77 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:32 am

Just to clarify. An Immigration adviser just told me that physiotherapist is acceptable to be a professional referee even though it is not listed. Seems like the list is only a guide and not a rule.

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Re: referee question

Post by CR001 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:32 am

I suspect it is because you are newly registered and don't have 30 posts as yet. Certain features are not available until you have 30 posts.
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Re: referee question

Post by CR001 » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:33 am

Angie77 wrote:Just to clarify. An Immigration adviser just told me that physiotherapist is acceptable to be a professional referee even though it is not listed. Seems like the list is only a guide and not a rule.
Up to you. If HO is unhappy, they will write to you and ask you for another referee.
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Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:01 pm

My husband and I had everything ready for BC application. We even had appointment booked at our local NCS.
However due to being advised in this forum we are going to apply for his SAR to find out his acquired PR status first as his permanent residence certificate has been recently issued. We probably gonna have to put off his application until January.
I have a permanent resident card issued 1 year ago so I would not need to apply for Sar.
Now, I don't know if I apply for my citizenship first as I have everything ready, or if I wait for my husband Sar to confirm his PR status date and apply together with him em January.
What do you guys think it's better? To make a joint application( wife and husband) or to apply separately? Or it does not matter?

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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by noajthan » Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:28 pm

There is no joint application. Even if you apply at same time you will have to apply individually.
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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:03 pm

I am aware that there is not joint form but in the AN application form says in case of joint application to send marriage certificate so I just assumed despite there is not joint application form would be possible for them to consider an application as family and maybe that would be easier.

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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by CR001 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:10 pm

It makes no difference either way. You both have to qualify and meet the requirements individually.

The form is used for many routes to BC and there used to be a joint application and reduced fee scheme but this has been removed now.
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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:19 pm

ok. thank you 8)

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absence days not remember

Post by Angie77 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:00 pm

I have a problem here.
In my PR application I put an approximately date of my only 2 absence from UK in the last 5 years as I could not remember the exactly dates and now I don't remember the dates to put in my AN application .
For sure I did not spend more than 45 days outside UK in the last 6 years.
Does it matter if I put a different day?

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Re: absence days not remember

Post by pentaya » Tue Nov 15, 2016 6:04 pm

That shouldnt be a problem. As long as there is no big difference for the dates. Also, Mention that you dont remember the dates exactly. Or look for travel plan in your emails.

Still if this is a concern, Please request Immigration history from HO for a tenner
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Re: absence days not remember

Post by Angie77 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:24 pm

I am worried if the absences dates from my PR application is different from my AN application.

I have applied for my fast track Sar, Hopefully that will shed some light.

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Re: absence days not remember

Post by LilyLalilu » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:43 pm

A fast-track SAR usually doesn't give any information about absences.
Did you not take a copy of your EEA PR application form before sending it off?
If you cannot get the information required, as the previous poster suggested, just guesstimate the absences and state that you cannot remember exactly but that they did not exceed the allowed absences.
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Re: absence days not remember

Post by Angie77 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:01 pm

I wish I had taken copies! I was so sick and tired from filling that enormous PRC form and gathering all support documentation that I did not even think of taking copies from my application form.

I guess the only alternative is to do what you guys are saying.

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Residence requirement

Post by Angie77 » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:01 am

I am a Non-EU immigrant who hold PRC as dependent of an European.
To prove residence only my passport showing my old residence permits would suffice?
Or do I need to send proof of employment such as payslips or employer letter?

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Re: Residence requirement

Post by noajthan » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:31 am

Angie77 wrote:I am a Non-EU immigrant who hold PRC as dependent of an European.
To prove residence only my passport showing my old residence permits would suffice?
Or do I need to send proof of employment such as payslips or employer letter?
No need to open new topic for every question about your case.
Posts merged.

And follow AN guidance on how EEA applicants prove residence, its quite clear and comprehensive. A RC doesn't prove where you were.
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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:30 am

ok. thanks!

I know in case of European is needed more than a PRC but I am dependent of EU.
I have the biometric residence card and had to go through 3 residency processes throughout these 7 years I have been living in UK. In the guidance notes says;
''Your passports OR say why you are unable to provide one on page 24 and
supply
• Letters from employers, educational establishments or other Government
Departments indicating the applicant’s presence in the United Kingdom during
the relevant period''

Does it mean I have to send all these documents or Can I provide only one of these? In my case I would provide my passports with old stamps. That would suffice?

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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Casa » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:35 am

Angie77 wrote:ok. thanks!

I know in case of European is needed more than a PRC but I am dependent of EU.
I have the biometric residence card and had to go through 3 residency processes throughout these 7 years I have been living in UK. In the guidance notes says;
''Your passports OR say why you are unable to provide one on page 24 and
supply
• Letters from employers, educational establishments or other Government
Departments indicating the applicant’s presence in the United Kingdom during
the relevant period''

Does it mean I have to send all these documents or Can I provide only one of these? In my case I would provide my passports with old stamps. That would suffice?
Note the word OR. :idea: If you are submitting passports you don't need to submit the other examples as proof of residence.
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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by noajthan » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:37 am

Angie77 wrote:ok. thanks!

I know in case of European is needed more than a PRC but I am dependent of EU.
I have the biometric residence card and had to go through 3 residency processes throughout these 7 years I have been living in UK. In the guidance notes says;
...

Does it mean I have to send all these documents or Can I provide only one of these? In my case I would provide my passports with old stamps. That would suffice?
Passports with stamps are fine.
Documents are only required from those with no stamps in passports. (Note the "OR"; did I mention the AN guidance was clear and comprehensive).

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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:41 am

Casa wrote:
Angie77 wrote:ok. thanks!

I know in case of European is needed more than a PRC but I am dependent of EU.
I have the biometric residence card and had to go through 3 residency processes throughout these 7 years I have been living in UK. In the guidance notes says;
''Your passports OR say why you are unable to provide one on page 24 and
supply
• Letters from employers, educational establishments or other Government
Departments indicating the applicant’s presence in the United Kingdom during
the relevant period''

Does it mean I have to send all these documents or Can I provide only one of these? In my case I would provide my passports with old stamps. That would suffice?
Note the word OR. :idea: If you are submitting passports you don't need to submit the other examples as proof of residence.

I was unsure because there are 2 bullet points.
Thank you for your quickly reply and for clarifying this! I love this forum :D

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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:01 pm

I will send a letter from employers covering the last 5 years.
My former employer has sent me a letter by email without his signature.
Is this acceptable?

TIA

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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by alterhase58 » Sun Dec 18, 2016 7:32 pm

Angie77 wrote:I will send a letter from employers covering the last 5 years.
My former employer has sent me a letter by email without his signature.
Is this acceptable?
Being "old school" I would prefer a signed letter, maybe they just forgot. Employers are signing documents all the time so I would ask.
I did note that my HO approval letter was not signed ....
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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by noajthan » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:42 pm

Without a signature anyone could have written that letter on a piece of company letter paper.
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Re: Sole Application or joint application??

Post by Angie77 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:30 am

OMG! I have appointment at NCS next Thursday and my former employer is 800 miles away from me.
Is a digital signature acceptable? As I don't think he will have time to post it to me.

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