ILR holding children and wife for Naturalisation documents

[HasA62]

Hi all,
I am going to apply Naturalisation for wife and 2 children. Before submitting I need to make sure the documents , including forms, are correct and accurate . please spend a little time to read and advise.

I got ILR . I did not apply for Naturalisation / BC as I dont need for the time being.

My children were born outside Uk and came to the UK with wife on 12 December 2011. Wife and 2 Sons got ILR - PR in 15 August 2013. Sons age are 16 and 17. So, wife , children and me are on ILR now.

As wife and sons have been for 05 years ( 05 years and 07 days today) in the UK they now qualify to apply for Naturalisation . She and sons have no any absence during this 05 year period. I read the UKVI guidance but get confused with some phrases. I can use AN form for wife and MN1 FORM for children as they are under 18. What I need to make sure as I am not a British Citizen but holding ILR only;

Can I register my sons using MN1 ?
Can wife apply for Naturalisation with children ? I can apply through NCS.
please clarify.. I will be very grateful..

[CR001]

Can I register my sons using MN1 ?
Can wife apply for Naturalisation with children ? I can apply through NCS.

Yes, yes and yes. No requirement that you have to apply at the same time.

[HasA62]

Yes, yes and yes. No requirement that you have to apply at the same time.

Thank you very much for prompt reply . When I checked the guidance of MN1 I have found the below paragraph . please tell me about this..

''''Registration at the Home Secretary’s discretion – Section 3(1) application''

Children born abroad to parents who are applying for British citizenship
Where one or both parents are applying for British citizenship they may apply for one
or more children who are not automatically British at birth (see “Automatic acquisition
of British citizenship” above) to be registered as British citizens as part of a “family
application”. Children in this category will be considered at the Home Secretary’s
discretion and will usually be registered only if both the parents are granted or already hold British citizenship, or if one parent holds British citizenship and the other is settled in the UK.

please..

[noajthan]

You can dig into such vital questions here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... structions

[HasA62]

You can dig into such vital questions here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... structions

Thanks noajthan and CR001.. I found the following when digged into the guidance as follows;

Citizenship and immigration status of the parents

9.17.9 We should normally expect that:
 At least one parent is a British citizen or one of the parents has applied to be registered or naturalised as a British citizen and the application is going to be granted (if the parent’s application is to be refused, we should normally refuse the
minor’s application as well);
- 43 - and the other parent is either settled in the United Kingdom (see Annex
F to Chapter 6); or whilst not settled, is unlikely in the short or medium term to be
returnable to his or her country of origin (eg s/he has been granted Discretionary Leave), and there is otherwise no reason to think that the child’s future does not lie in the United Kingdom.

What I understand from the above guidance is if mother is granted Nauturalization then children too will be granted. If mother is refused , then children also will be refused.

There may be a little risk applying Nautralization for wife and children at the same time. I think first apply for wife and after she naturalised as a BC , then register the children using MN1 FORMS ?

At the time of applying for naturalization, both parents are on ILR only . Please help.

[CR001]

You can dig into such vital questions here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... structions

Thanks noajthan and CR001.. I found the following when digged into the guidance as follows;

Citizenship and immigration status of the parents

9.17.9 We should normally expect that:
 At least one parent is a British citizen or one of the parents has applied to be registered or naturalised as a British citizen and the application is going to be granted (if the parent’s application is to be refused, we should normally refuse the
minor’s application as well);
- 43 - and the other parent is either settled in the United Kingdom (see Annex
F to Chapter 6); or whilst not settled, is unlikely in the short or medium term to be
returnable to his or her country of origin (eg s/he has been granted Discretionary Leave), and there is otherwise no reason to think that the child’s future does not lie in the United Kingdom.

What I understand from the above guidance is if mother is granted Nauturalization then children too will be granted. If mother is refused , then children also will be refused.

There may be a little risk applying Nautralization for wife and children at the same time. I think first apply for wife and after she naturalised as a BC , then register the children using MN1 FORMS ?

At the time of applying for naturalization, both parents are on ILR only . Please help.

Did you miss the piece I have bold/underlined/made red above? One parent is applying at the same time as the child and the other parent holds ILR, there is no issue and you are overthinking this.

[HasA62]

Did you miss the piece I have bold/underlined/made red above? One parent is applying at the same time as the child and the other parent holds ILR, there is no issue and you are overthinking this.

Thanks CR001 ,

What I have now understood after reading guidance and replies from this forum , I am going to apply for WIFE's Naturalisation along with children to register using MN1 forms.

I also understand its discretion but in my case its fine to apply for wife and children at the same time as wife , hopefully , naturalised as BC.

Will post checklist ..

[CR001]

Correct, it is fine.

[HasA62]

Correct, it is fine.

Thanks CR001.

pl clear me some questions for MN 1 forms ;

For children , ( 16 and 17 )

Should birth certificates with translation be given ? They born outside UK.

A letter from school covering 02 years need to submit ?