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ALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
Thanks for sharing much useful information which will benifit lot of people to prepare proper case.you can upload mp,head teacher ,elderly relative letter format by removing your personal details and upload cover letter in parts if possible. ..it would only help people like me.
I respect site rules not sure why you were not able to read my pm .I just want to speak to you or want you can email me cover letter etc .
But if sites rules are every information should be public then you can upload as many dacuments relating this case it will only help others.
Lot of refusal in past though there were different scenario for everybody .... but now I see lot of people get success as well ...
Regards
Ali
Are both of you (husband and wife) British citizens... yes or no pls. you confused me with your write-upALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
I really appriciate your help.
My circumstances are as follows ...came to UK on tier 1 visa on 2009 with three outside born kids ages 14,12 and 10 year ...
Me and my wife get BC after two extensions....
One child born uk in 2009 got BC in 2009 after my and my wife ilr...I am engineer doing permanent job in factory and recently buy house here as well.
My children never visted outside UK since 2009 ,all kids going school for last 7.5 years in ukand I visted outside once for three weeks.
My 3 children still on tier 1 dependent visa ...they got two extension visa will be expire in April 2016
My children grandfather family (Wife parents)is here in uk as well they are BC ...they came uk 2006.
.would like to apply mn1 earlier but home office took a year for my BC application. .
Above is my whole scenario
Actually your case give me lot of hope that I will be successful.
I will be very great full if u can draft me cover letter etc
Kind regards
Ali
BIG Dobby wrote:Are both of you (husband and wife) British citizens... yes or no pls. you confused me with your write-upALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
I really appriciate your help.
My circumstances are as follows ...came to UK on tier 1 visa on 2009 with three outside born kids ages 14,12 and 10 year ...
Me and my wife get BC after two extensions....
One child born uk in 2009 got BC in 2009 after my and my wife ilr...I am engineer doing permanent job in factory and recently buy house here as well.
My children never visted outside UK since 2009 ,all kids going school for last 7.5 years in ukand I visted outside once for three weeks.
My 3 children still on tier 1 dependent visa ...they got two extension visa will be expire in April 2016
My children grandfather family (Wife parents)is here in uk as well they are BC ...they came uk 2006.
.would like to apply mn1 earlier but home office took a year for my BC application. .
Above is my whole scenario
Actually your case give me lot of hope that I will be successful.
I will be very great full if u can draft me cover letter etc
Kind regards
Ali
If you and ur husband are British Citizens (BCs) and one of your kids is BC, you stand over 80% chances of succeeding.ALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
I really appriciate your help.
My circumstances are as follows ...came to UK on tier 1 visa on 2009 with three outside born kids ages 14,12 and 10 year ...
Me and my wife get BC after two extensions....
One child born uk in 2009 got BC in 2009 after my and my wife ilr...I am engineer doing permanent job in factory and recently buy house here as well.
My children never visted outside UK since 2009 ,all kids going school for last 7.5 years in ukand I visted outside once for three weeks.
My 3 children still on tier 1 dependent visa ...they got two extension visa will be expire in April 2016
My children grandfather family (Wife parents)is here in uk as well they are BC ...they came uk 2006.
.would like to apply mn1 earlier but home office took a year for my BC application. .
Above is my whole scenario
Actually your case give me lot of hope that I will be successful.
I will be very great full if u can draft me cover letter etc
Kind regards
Ali
**** I don't know y u did not put their application when both of you (husband and wife) were applying for citizenship - U need to make this application as soon as possible since their visa expires in April next year (2017)***** They will never refuse them *** NEVER***ALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
Me and my wife both BC
Regards
ALI
.ALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
I really appriciate your help.
My circumstances are as follows ...came to UK on tier 1 visa on 2009 with three outside born kids ages 14,12 and 10 year ...
Me and my wife get BC after two extensions....
One child born uk in 2009 got BC in 2009 after my and my wife ilr...I am engineer doing permanent job in factory and recently buy house here as well.
My children never visted outside UK since 2009 ,all kids going school for last 7.5 years in ukand I visted outside once for three weeks.
My 3 children still on tier 1 dependent visa ...they got two extension visa will be expire in April 2016
My children grandfather family (Wife parents)is here in uk as well they are BC ...they came uk 2006.
.would like to apply mn1 earlier but home office took a year for my BC application. .
Above is my whole scenario
Actually your case give me lot of hope that I will be successful.
I will be very great full if u can draft me cover letter etc
Kind regards
Ali
That letter covers everything... don't tell them what they already know... pretend u dont know. Try and get a letter from your MP and manager. Ring ur MP now. get Ministers of religion to sign the referee forms. go to their school if its a catholic school see the Rev Fr.ALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
I almost got enough information from you to prepare and apply my case ...just one more thing in letter which you draft ..you not mention about chapter 9.17.2, and 9.17.26 etc and article 8 etc ...would you suggest I add these things to letter as well
Otherwise you draft very good letter .
I am ready to apply in one to two days just cover letter ets left.
Regards
Ali
I forgot one last thing:ALI97 wrote:Hi BIG Dobby
I already got school letters confirming their attendance. ...they give me their standard letter as per their policy
I will attached letter and will let you know about outcome of application .
Thanks
Ali
where did u place it? pls provide linknoajthan wrote:To avoid confusion & jumbled responses, I have moved your question to its own thread (this one) .
Additional Info are meant to address other issues. That was exactly the way I wrote mine as it covered all the section 3(1) in chapter 9 of BNA i981. I tell you what: his case is very easy as there are thousands of precedents already set _ they must have to grant it based on Family Unity.noajthan wrote:The letters are without doubt very enthusiastic and gung ho.
Not sure they address all key points from relevant section of legislation, for example, as outlined in HO Chapter 9 guidance on BNA.
Future intentions and plans of both the family unit and the minor, a major theme in the guidance, have been overlooked.
A discretionary section 3(1) application is in no way a 1(3) type of entitlement.
If it was there would be no need for a section 3(1) of BNA with all its discretionary elements and caveats.
Its clear settled minors are preferred and even the presence of BC siblings are not necessarily a deciding factor.
Minor issues such as travel for school trips are readily addressed by the British Council travel letter scheme.
See below -noajthan wrote:Noted, no doubt your application succeeded.
However just because someone is British doesn't mean their future is in UK. So discuss it, demonstrate it.
Guidance is clear, even British siblings don't necessarily determine the outcome although may be factored into the equation.
Parents naturalised and/or naturalising are simply a prerequisite and starting point.
Older teens who have enjoyed a shorter life in UK to date obviously have a higher bar to cross. Achievable and realistic targets and life goals based on life in UK should be discussed.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... structionsAn application which falls outside these criteria should not normally be approved, even if there are British citizen siblings or siblings with entitlements to registration as a British citizen, unless we are satisfied that registration would be in the child's best interests.
It's in the casework guidance, they wont show you that - so don't worry about it. They will only show you Chapter 9 of BNA 1981, which only great minds can understand.noajthan wrote:It's not clear what you are quoting but its not made its way into nationality instructions...
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... structionsAn application which falls outside these criteria should not normally be approved, even if there are British citizen siblings or siblings with entitlements to registration as a British citizen, unless we are satisfied that registration would be in the child's best interests.
Not possible to comment then.BIG Dobby wrote:It's in the casework guidance, they wont show you that - so don't worry about it. They will only show you Chapter 9 of BNA 1981, which only great minds can understand.
E.g: Chapter 6.9 Representations against refusal:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... n-v6_0.pdf
Official – sensitive: Blank thru out....