why I voted for brexit

[kamoe]

One thing that got me angry about is why people from European Union can be like someone like who is an British Born person or from outside European union who has got ILR the British government should have given a time limit to the Europeans living in UK before they where allowed to claim any benefits, tax credits etc... I know they have just started doing this.

This is not only anger, it's resentment, which is an even more dangerous feeling. This leads people to do irrational things, based on a past you cannot change, and not the future.

Because you had it difficult, no one should have it easy.
You prefer to lose rights, than have someone else have them.
You prefer to lose alone, than win with friends.

Not a good starting point.

@ Kamoe, you do realise you are quoting a post from Jan 2017 and the user has not logged into the forum for 2 years now.

Yes

People are still reading it though.

[Bran]

what I do not get about the entire Brexit thing is this: it seems everyone knows that at least some promises made before the referendum turned out to be lies, which means that at least some decisions were made based on false premises.

so why this complicated discussion about anything and everything, why not just challenge results of the referendum in Hight Court?

for me, it looks like if there was a vote on if everyone wanted to be granted £1 000 000 for free. everyone has agreed, but then it turned out that it had been some kind of misunderstanding or wishful thinking, the amount meant by the government was just £10 and what had not been told by that time is everyone has to give up their children as slaves for good in order to repay that money. and now we're looking for a way to change our mind in the light of these new conditions, talking about democracy and what not, completely ignoring the fact that we were fooled in the first place.

[secret.simon]

why not just challenge results of the referendum in Hight Court?

That's been done ...and rejected by the Court of Appeal at least twice.

[Bran]

Well, if you meant Carole-Anne Richards, then it was about overspending only and she's just a person. I meant a serious investigation by the government, with all the money and the power and experts involved.

It is obvious people had no way to know what they were voting for, because the word "leave" means nothing without details (or could mean anything you want). And ballot papers had no details.

It seems to me like the greatest scam ever.

[secret.simon]

I was referring to the UK IN EU Challenge. I do not know the names of the main litigants, but I recall Sue Wilson, chair of Bremain in Spain, campaigning for it and JMP Simor QC (I think she is a candidate for the Change UK in London for the EP elections) representing them in court.

The Commons Library has done a summary of the court cases about Brexit which may be worth a read.

[Bran]

Simon, thank you for the link.

[Daneil1988]

Hello, my friend, you know out of 5.000.000 people on benefits in 2014 only 136.000 were Europeans the rest were British. Let's not be hypocrites cos many other nationalities send almost all their money back home Phil Asians and Africans. I don't understand why would you vote for Brexit just because someone sends money back home. At the end of the day even if they send money home they pay rent taxes just like you. If we sit and pick on one community and to make matters worse we start divisive rhetoric then this country won't go forward. And bare in mind Europeans contributed in taxes worth roughly 2,6 billion pounds. To give you an example I wanted to bring my wife here and they've refused me again and again 5 times. Now I send to Zambia 1600£ every month because I am raising my money over there. UKBA wants me to help the economy in another country there is no problem I can easily sort that out.