an audited accounts with application

[jafersadeq]

Dear Gurus,

My accountant how did the annual accounts for the last two years has passed a way, he filed it and he mentioned the he is my accountant, I do not have a hard copy to show his report,
Can I ask another certified accountant (according HO rules) to prepare a hard copy to use it with extension application? same data but different accountant.

Thanks

[zimba]

There is no hard copy All accounts are digitally prepared

[jafersadeq]

There is no hard copy All accounts are digitally prepared

Dear Zimba88,
He reported the digital accounts to HMRC and on paper to Companies House,
I mean, what shall I submit with my application, I have to submit the annual accounts on paper (hard copy), is that right?
I do not have his report on paper, that what I mean.
Please advise,
Thanks

[marcnath]

There is no hard copy All accounts are digitally prepared

Dear Zimba88,
He reported the digital accounts to HMRC and on paper to Companies House,
I mean, what shall I submit with my application, I have to submit the annual accounts on paper (hard copy), is that right?
I do not have his report on paper, that what I mean.
Please advise,
Thanks

I assume you have the electronic (soft) copy of those submissions
Just print them out and you have the hard copy to submit to UKVI

[jafersadeq]

I assume you have the electronic (soft) copy of those submissions
Just print them out and you have the hard copy to submit to UKVI

I have the electronic copy, but it contains the old accountant's name, he passed away, who can sign the accountants report.
Shall I ask an accountant to prepare a digital one and sign it?
Please advise

[hkay1]

Was it an accounting practise. Usually it says prepared on behalf of Accounting Company name.
If it is an accounting practise with more than one directors any director can sign off the accounts if they are practising member of the accounting body.

[jafersadeq]

Was it an accounting practise. Usually it says prepared on behalf of Accounting Company name.
If it is an accounting practise with more than one directors any director can sign off the accounts if they are practising member of the accounting body.

Unfortunately NO, he is the only director.

[zimba]

An accountant does not need to sign anything. There is no such statuary requirement

[jafersadeq]

An accountant does not need to sign anything. There is no such statuary requirement

What about accountant report (accounts compilation report)?

Do you mean that just the director has to sign it??

My question was: Can I ask another accountant to prepare same accounts and to sign the accountant report ? The new accountants name will appear on the new copy.


Thanks

[zimba]

The compilation report is a generic extra page added to the accounts. A director must sign the accounts as correct NOT the accountant. There is no such statuary requirement

[jafersadeq]

The compilation report is a generic extra page added to the accounts. A director must sign the accounts as correct NOT the accountant. There is no such statuary requirement

Dear Zimba88,
Many thanks for your answer,
Please focus on my question !
I want to explain it more to understand it:
2015, 2016 accounts has been prepared by my accountant, for each year ,one reported electronically to HMRC and one on paper to Companies House. My accountant's name was on both, I signed those accounts.
He passed away, and I do not have a signed compilation report for 2015, 2016. If I print out the submitted accounts, I can sign it, it contains the first accountant's name, now I need a signed compilation report with my accounts, if I ask another accountant, he will ask me to prepare the accounts from the beginning to sign a compilation report.
Now I have get a compilation report.. How to do that? this is my question.
Can I ask another accountant to re-produce those accounts to sign the compilation report, if he produces it his name will appear and he can sign it, and I have to sign it. What about the date of producing those accounts. It will be same data.
Please advise
Thanks again

[marcnath]

Dear Zimba88,
Many thanks for your answer,
Please focus on my question !
I want to explain it more to understand it:
2015, 2016 accounts has been prepared by my accountant, for each year ,one reported electronically to HMRC and one on paper to Companies House. My accountant's name was on both, I signed those accounts.
He passed away, and I do not have a signed compilation report for 2015, 2016. If I print out the submitted accounts, I can sign it, it contains the first accountant's name, now I need a signed compilation report with my accounts, if I ask another accountant, he will ask me to prepare the accounts from the beginning to sign a compilation report.
Now I have get a compilation report.. How to do that? this is my question.
Can I ask another accountant to re-produce those accounts to sign the compilation report, if he produces it his name will appear and he can sign it, and I have to sign it. What about the date of producing those accounts. It will be same data.
Please advise
Thanks again

For my own extension application, I only provided the last year accounts (the previous two years I did not use an accountant but filed the accounts myself).
Unless something has changed, I have not seen any need to supply accounts for all the three years.
The requirement is that the submitted accounts should
- clearly show the investment (so the latest account will do that)
- has to be prepared and signed off by an accountant (does not mean physical signature)
- has to have a compilation letter included by the accountant that confirms he is a qualified accountant and has prepared the accounts.

So you only need the accounts and the compilation report for the latest year to meet those needs. And I guess you are getting your new accountant to do that.

[jafersadeq]

Dear Zimba88 & marcnath,

You know that the electronic annual accounts copy contains limited rows-space to write notes,
Can we prepare another copy (without re-submission) and we add more notes and submit it with application, both accounts have same figures, but the second one has more details,

IS that possible?

OR it should be a printout of what is on Companies House website.

Please advise,

[marcnath]

Dear Zimba88 & marcnath,

OR it should be a printout of what is on Companies House website.

Please advise,

As far as I am aware, there is no requirement that they have to be true copies.

The requirement is for a certified Accountant prepared set of accounts - nothing to do with HMRC or companies house. I assume they can cross check if they want to, but it is not like Tier 1 General or Tier 2 where the salary is almost always verified against HMRC.

In my own case, my renewal was in February and the year had ended in Dec, so I had not even submitted the accounts to HMRC or Companies house at the time of my renewal.

[jafersadeq]

Dear marcnath,
Many thanks for your answer,
Have you submitted same accounts (last year only) which you did not submit to HMRC?

[marcnath]

Correct, I only submitted one year's account and that only got submitted to HMRC/Companies house much later

[jafersadeq]

Dear Zimba88 & marcnath,
I found an accountant who prepared two years annual accounts separately with accountant's report, these accounts have same figures which were in my old accounts (submitted to CH & HMRC), but he added more notes in the accounts, now I have ready unaudited accounts but from another accountant (He is a member of ACCA and he has a practicing certificate). Is it ok to submit it with extension application?
Please advise,
Thanks

[marcnath]

Dear Zimba88 & marcnath,
I found an accountant who prepared two years annual accounts separately with accountant's report, these accounts have same figures which were in my old accounts (submitted to CH & HMRC), but he added more notes in the accounts, now I have ready unaudited accounts but from another accountant (He is a member of ACCA and he has a practicing certificate). Is it ok to submit it with extension application?
Please advise,
Thanks

yes, I don't see why not