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Job Creation Table in SET(O) Form

Post by agnesmary » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:49 pm

Hi fellow members,

Am having slight difficulty figuring out how to fill the Job Creation page in the SET(O) Form, page 42.

I have 3 employees - 2 employees in Marketing, the other an Admin Assistant.

Does that mean I have to fill in 3 job creation tables or 2 job creation tables by combining both marketing employees in 1 table and the admin in another table?

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by zimba » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:36 pm

A table per POSITION in your company
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Job Creation Table in SET(O) Form

Post by agnesmary » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:13 pm

Thank you Zimba for your reply.

Is the Start Date in Job the same as the start date in FPS, assuming there's no change in employee's position within the company?

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by zimba » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:00 pm

Yes
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:49 am

My most recent extension of leave commenced on 15th December 2015.
Employee start date on FPS is 1st May 2015 and leave date is 30th April 2016.

Is the Start Date in Job calculated from the most recent leave extension or the start date on FPS?

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by zimba » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:47 am

Only the hours worked during extension will be counted towards ILR
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:07 pm

When filling up the Job Creation Table in the SET(O) form, the start and end date in job should be the period I'm claiming employment points for during my most recent leave of extension, right? :)

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by zimba » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:21 pm

Yes ideally. The date on the table is the date the position was created and the dates in the table are the periods you are claiming
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:30 pm

Noted. Thank you for the clarification, Zimba. :)

Is the term "Biometric Reference Number" the same as "Biometric Permit Number"?

Question 7.13 (Immigration History Section, page 26) : How long have you lived in the UK?
Does this apply to the previous (3 years) and recent (2 years) leave extension OR must I also include the years I lived & studied in the UK years ago?

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by CR001 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:33 pm

OR must I also include the years I lived & studied in the UK years ago
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:40 pm

Appreciate your speedy response, CR001. :)

So the answer to my enquiry will be = 3 years + 2 years + XX years lived and studied in the UK.

Is the term "Biometric Reference Number" the same as "Biometric Card Number"?

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by CR001 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 pm

So the answer to my enquiry will be = 3 years + 2 years + XX years lived and studied in the UK.
Yes or you can state the time on T1E if applying based on 5 years residence and add a note in the 'Additional Information' page to say your previous time.
Is the term "Biometric Reference Number" the same as "Biometric Card Number"?
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:57 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 pm
So the answer to my enquiry will be = 3 years + 2 years + XX years lived and studied in the UK.
Yes or you can state the time on T1E if applying based on 5 years residence and add a note in the 'Additional Information' page to say your previous time.
Is the term "Biometric Reference Number" the same as "Biometric Card Number"?
Correct.

I'm trying to locate the 'Additional Information' page in the SET(O) form but I could not find it :roll:
Can you please let me know the page number? Thank you.

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by CR001 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:03 pm

Hate it when that happens lol.

You could add a brief letter.
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:12 pm

CR001 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:03 pm
Hate it when that happens lol.

You could add a brief letter.
I know what you mean.. :lol: I don't know what I'll do without the kind assistance from members of this forum. You have a lovely day :)

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by CR001 » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:16 pm

agnesmary wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:12 pm
CR001 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:03 pm
Hate it when that happens lol.

You could add a brief letter.
I know what you mean.. :lol: I don't know what I'll do without the kind assistance from members of this forum. You have a lovely day :)
Enjoy the rest of your day too. Feel free to continue posting questions.

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by marcnath » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:39 am

My interpretation of the dates and what I have used myself is:

Date Post Created = The date an employer hired the first employee in that position
Start Date with Your Business (if this differs from start date in job) = Must be the same start date listed on the employee's FPS.
Start Date in Job = Same as Start Date with your business unless the employee has changed role - say from Admin manager to Sales Manager, in which case it will be different from the Start Date with business.

That is the literal interpretation of the language.

In fact, "(if this differs from start date in job)" seems to imply you can leave this column blank if it is the same as the Start Date in Job.

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:57 am

Thank you for your reply, Marcnath :)

I've got Employee A which was employed during my last leave extension and worked for 3 months during the most recent leave extension. No changes in position role.

Is his Start Date in Job the date he commenced work during the last leave extension OR recent leave extension? I'm stuck. And utterly confused. As always :lol:

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by marcnath » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:03 pm

agnesmary wrote:
Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:57 am
Thank you for your reply, Marcnath :)

I've got Employee A which was employed during my last leave extension and worked for 3 months during the most recent leave extension. No changes in position role.

Is his Start Date in Job the date he commenced work during the last leave extension OR recent leave extension? I'm stuck. And utterly confused. :lol:
I used the Start Date in job as when my employee actually started (it was in the original grant period). Honestly, I don't think that will be thing that CW is going to base the decision on. They will use the evidence document and the Table is more of a reference.
Just don't forget to include the FPS from the original start month in addition to the three FPS for the extension period.
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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by agnesmary » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:11 pm

Points noted. Thanks again Marcnath.

Am hoping this will be a seamless application process :)

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by raj.m » Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:14 am

CR001 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 pm
So the answer to my enquiry will be = 3 years + 2 years + XX years lived and studied in the UK.
Yes or you can state the time on T1E if applying based on 5 years residence and add a note in the 'Additional Information' page to say your previous time.
Is the term "Biometric Reference Number" the same as "Biometric Card Number"?
Correct.
Hi, I have a similar situation. I first entered the UK on a student visa in 2004 and left in 2007. Then came back in 2009 again on a student visa, changed to PSW in 2011 and then eventually to Tier 1 Entrepreneur in 2013.

So, as you suggested to agnesmary, I'll be doing 3+2 years (Tier 1 ent) + previous time spent on student visa/psw to answer "7.13 How long have you lived in the UK?". I made a few family visits (each visit was about 3-4 weeks) throughout my time in the UK. So, while doing my calculations, should I be deducting this time from the total?

Many thanks in advance

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Re: Job Creation for ILR for Tier 1 Entrepreneur visa

Post by CR001 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:45 am

raj.m wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:14 am
CR001 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 pm
So the answer to my enquiry will be = 3 years + 2 years + XX years lived and studied in the UK.
Yes or you can state the time on T1E if applying based on 5 years residence and add a note in the 'Additional Information' page to say your previous time.
Is the term "Biometric Reference Number" the same as "Biometric Card Number"?
Correct.
Hi, I have a similar situation. I first entered the UK on a student visa in 2004 and left in 2007. Then came back in 2009 again on a student visa, changed to PSW in 2011 and then eventually to Tier 1 Entrepreneur in 2013.

So, as you suggested to agnesmary, I'll be doing 3+2 years (Tier 1 ent) + previous time spent on student visa/psw to answer "7.13 How long have you lived in the UK?". I made a few family visits (each visit was about 3-4 weeks) throughout my time in the UK. So, while doing my calculations, should I be deducting this time from the total?

Many thanks in advance
Kindly post in your own topic if your have one or start a new on related to ILR if you don't have one already.
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