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Legitimate reason to stay in UK you must tell us

Post by 123uk » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:50 am

Hello everyone
being here in UK for 16 years. Recently received a removal 3 months windows, in the 7 days before the window start, the solicitor sent a statement based on flrp grounds including all documents from me and my family. ( bank , statements, letter support etc....)
My question :
is the statement the solicitor sent instead of a charge application flrp form is correct?

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Re: Legitimate reason to stay in UK you must tell us

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:08 am

To get 'leave to remain' you need to make an application and pay the fee. A statement from a solicitor is not an application.
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Re: Legitimate reason to stay in UK you must tell us

Post by 123uk » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:41 am

That's what I thought, but the solicitor insist that its the correct way to reply to a removal notice. its like the s120 ( to inform ukba why you should not be removed ? ).

Now is it ok to do or better to say add an application form and send it in the 3 months window? or after the window end? and would that be acceptable now by the home office as why you haven't sent the form from the first time instead?

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Re: Legitimate reason to stay in UK you must tell us

Post by CR001 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:55 am

Applying for a removal notice is not the same thing as applying for leave to remain.
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Re: Legitimate reason to stay in UK you must tell us

Post by 123uk » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:41 am

Thanks CR001. But I think you misread the word reply by apply, yes its a Reply ( response ) to why should stay in UK.
anyway after a deep research I think it can be done by a non application form & fee. ( still I mite be wrong ). and thought I post this in here for a benefit.

3.9 Non-protection human rights cases Further submissions made on ECHR Article 3 (medical) or Article 8 family or private life grounds following the refusal or withdrawal of an earlier application and the conclusion of any appeal must normally be submitted as a valid application to UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) Temporary Migration unless they are made in the context of deportation. Further submissions in non-deportation cases can be submitted by post to the address on the application form or in person at a Premium Service Centre by way of a valid application on:

the FLR(FP) form on the basis of family and private life 
the FLR(O) form on the basis of medical grounds

The circumstances in which the requirement to submit a valid application will not be applied are set out in paragraph 276A0 of the Immigration Rules and in paragraph GEN 1.9 of Appendix FM of those Rules. In cases where the exemptions do not apply and a valid application is not made, caseworkers can consider whether to reject the request to consider further submissions and advise the claimant that they should make a valid application.

Alternatively, where further submissions are submitted, for example in response to a Section 120 notice by way of a statement without a valid application, caseworkers can deal with such claims under paragraph 353 and either grant leave (if appropriate) or enable enforcement action to be taken against those who submit such claims to frustrate removal.

In criminal deportation cases where Article 8 issues are raised, caseworkers must consider whether the family and private life rules in Part 13 are met. See Criminality guidance for Article 8 ECHR cases.

3.10 Cases managed by Immigration Enforcement Removals Casework (RC) or the National Removals Command (NRC) are responsible for non-asylum cases that raise further submissions on human rights grounds not related to protection at the removals stage, except in most deportation cases. Individuals subject to removal (rather than deportation) are not able to circumvent the need for a valid application accompanied by the appropriate fee unless the exemptions in Gen 1.9 of Appendix FM apply. If further submissions are received, RC and NRC should liaise with Temporary Migration to ensure that the submissions are considered promptly.

Further submissions that are managed by Criminal Casework (CC) and Special Cases Unit (SCU) at the removals or deportation stage should be considered in consultation with temporary migration or asylum as appropriate so that unfounded further submissions do not end up delaying the removals or deportation process.

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Re: Legitimate reason to stay in UK you must tell us

Post by bella27 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:36 am

I am the same situation where lawyer responded the removal notice which contains 120 notice.and told us to not to apply new application yet til the reply.but now we received a family meeting letter so I am so confused and worry about the meeting we are a family of five only me different country with my kids with their dad and our first child is 9yrs so , I don't know what next to do but the lawyer says we should not worry and we should attend the meeting. The letter say on this meeting you will not detain or arrested we just want to discuss your current situation and update our record.but again on the same day we got a new signing in me and my partner at the same time.

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