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wife cannot return home

Post by krym » Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:04 am

Hi, I have just applied on behalf of my wife an extension of her spouse visa, as non of these applications are guaranteed, if she doesn't get it extended, she''s in a predicament that she cannot return home, as she''s from the Crimes, which is now under Russian control, what would her options be if UKVI refuse her an extension?

For the record I am looking at this worse case scenario.

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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by Casa » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:33 am

Why are you concerned that her application may be refused?

Does the application meet the following conditions? :?:

1. £18,600 p.a minimum income level with 6 months payslips + 6 months corresponding bank statements. Or without income, £62,500 in savings held in an accessible account for 6 months.

2. Proof of co-habitation with 6 examples in joint names of shared address (or 6 each in single names), from at least 3 different sources, spread evenly over the qualifying period.

3. A2 level English from an UKVI approved test/test provider

4. Adequate accommodation

If your wife doesn't qualify for FLR(M), she would generally be issued with a FLR(FP) Partner visa, which is a 10 year route to settlement (2.5 years x 4). Do you have children together?
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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by krym » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:04 am

yes she/we meet the criteria. Yet I note UKVI are not always straight forward in issuing these things.

Also I wanted to understand if for whatever reason she was refused, how being requested to return to the Crimea (home country) could be challenged?

As it's an unusual circumstance I wanted to understand if anyone has deal with similar: being requested to return to a country now under different nationality/sovereignty via illegal annexation, of which has been condemned by host (current resident country).

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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by Casa » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:19 am

krym wrote:yes she/we meet the criteria. Yet I note UKVI are not always straight forward in issuing these things.

Also I wanted to understand if for whatever reason she was refused, how being requested to return to the Crimea (home country) could be challenged?

As it's an unusual circumstance I wanted to understand if anyone has deal with similar: being requested to return to a country now under different nationality/sovereignty via illegal annexation, of which has been condemned by host (current resident country).
As I've already advised, if she doesn't meet the criteria (although you are confident she does), your wife's application would be considered under FLR(FP) Partner route taking into consideration the situation in her home country.
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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by Wanderer » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:56 am

If worst came to worst she could return to another part of Ukraine or take up Russian citizenship in Krym, the obstacles aren't insurmountable.
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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by krym » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:40 am

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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by krym » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:44 am

to return would mean she is forced to take up Russian citizenship, which would be more problematic if she did want to travel to her Native Ukraine (mainland - parts thereof), and mostly it would be a nightmare for her to then see our kids. As I'm sure it would be harder as a Russian than Ukrainian to visit UK or have those parental rights enacted.

Also to take Russian citizenship would limit her to live only in the Crimea & Russia - of which she has family in Ukraine (Ukraine is now anti Russian) as well as Crimea, it would be hugely problematic to live or work in Ukraine under Russian citizenship. Yet to live in the Crimea it would be a learning curve, as all rules and regulations have changed.

So for what it's worth it could be do-able but would UKVI force someone into such situation? Also knowing war is still prevelant in the Ukraine (that the MSM do not report) and that the Crimea is regularly under attack from the Ukrainians at the border and via insurgents (disturbing water and localised power supplies) so much so all power now comes from Russia but locally it is being tampered with.

In all, not a good situation to live in.

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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by krym » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:47 am

Don't get me wrong I hope my wife gets the visa as is just, but I cannot help feel what if....

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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by CR001 » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:11 pm

krym wrote:Don't get me wrong I hope my wife gets the visa as is just, but I cannot help feel what if....
As Casa has already advised below. Your concern is understandable but we cannot possibly tell you what the outcome might be or what steps HO might take in such a hypothetical future event.
Casa wrote:
krym wrote:yes she/we meet the criteria. Yet I note UKVI are not always straight forward in issuing these things.

Also I wanted to understand if for whatever reason she was refused, how being requested to return to the Crimea (home country) could be challenged?

As it's an unusual circumstance I wanted to understand if anyone has deal with similar: being requested to return to a country now under different nationality/sovereignty via illegal annexation, of which has been condemned by host (current resident country).
As I've already advised, if she doesn't meet the criteria (although you are confident she does), your wife's application would be considered under FLR(FP) Partner route taking into consideration the situation in her home country.
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Re: wife cannot return home

Post by Wanderer » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:53 pm

My partner is Russian (not from Krym), travels with her parents to Kiev to see family no problem, all that's needed is a 'travelling' passport nowadays, the old internal one isn't enough. And no bother either, I feared for her wrt possible anti-Russian sentiments but there was nothing, nothing at all.

I've few friends in Krym and they all seem happy to be 'back' with Russia, and Russians get UK visa more easily than Ukrainians, last time I checked the visa stats, was something like 3% denials for UK, 13% for UA...

Also as far as I know Ukrainians can live in Russia and vice-versa, I'll check with her, she's on the phone to her mum, and you no doubt know how long that can go on for....
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