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You are wrong. Citizenship requires residence and all residence must be lawful.1. It seems that HO has applied 3 years qualifying period to my wife on her application for citizenship. however, she took the route of 196d to get ILR and then applied for Citizenship straightaway as she don't need to be in the country for any specific time to qualify for Citizenship through this route, I might be wrong but would need clarification on this part.
MulderPF is correct. Well-spotted.
The spouse of BC application is based on 3 years residence. To qualify for citizenship and the good character requirement, she must not have any breaches or overstay in the 10 years prior to applying for citizenship.
From my understanding, discretion can be applied if
Correct. But that does not apply in this case because the subsequent "late" application was not granted. It was a much later application well outside the 28 days that was granted.Hstepper07 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:43 amFrom my understanding, discretion can be applied if the person had made a late application for leave to remain which was subsequently granted and either the application was not submitted more than 28 days after the expiry of their previous leave and before 31 October 2016. The application was made a day after leave expired but within 28 days.
Page 27 of Nationality policy: Naturalisation as a British citizen by discretion wrote:You must only exercise discretion to disregard a period of unlawful residence if there are reasons for this which were clearly outside the applicant’s control, or if the breach was genuinely inadvertent and short.
Examples of when you might exercise discretion include where:
• the breach occurred at a time when the applicant was a minor whose parents failed to obtain or renew their leave • the applicant was a victim of domestic violence whose abusive partner prevented the renewal of leave
• the applicant had made an ‘in-time’application, but the application was rejected and so they became in breach
- this is provided there is no reason to doubt that the form was submitted in good faith and a fresh application was submitted within 28 days of the rejection and before 31 October 2016
• the person had made a late application for leave to remain which was subsequently granted and either the:
- application was not submitted more than 28 days after the expiry of their previous leave and before 31 October 2016
- application was not submitted after more than 28 days overstaying if it was an asylum application
- person had a period of more than 28 days between their leave expiring and them making a new application and there were exceptional circumstances such as a family illness or bereavement o period of overstaying ended on or after 31 October 2016 and leave was granted in accordance with paragraph 39E of the Immigration Rules
• the person arrived the UK clandestinely but either presented themself without delay to the immigration authorities or was detected by the immigration authorities shortly after arrival: o the maximum period involved should normally be 1 month, but may be longer if there are extenuating circumstances o in these cases you can waive the breach that occurred from entry until the person’s first application for leave or asylum was determined, provided the application was granted
• an application for asylum or leave to remain was refused but was later acknowledged to be an incorrect decision and the appropriate leave was granted
You must not exercise discretion to disregard a period of unlawful residence in any other circumstances, and particularly not when the breach was both substantial and deliberate.
This puzzles me too. I would have thought she would get a 10 year ban, I.e. she can reapply after 10 years of having been lawfully in the UK. Possibly a typo?
Ok. I assumed it was subsequently granted. That means that even though she was granted temporary admission, it was following a breach of immigration law as an overstayer.secret.simon wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:58 amCorrect. But that does not apply in this case because the subsequent "late" application was not granted. It was a much later application well outside the 28 days that was granted.Hstepper07 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:43 amFrom my understanding, discretion can be applied if the person had made a late application for leave to remain which was subsequently granted and either the application was not submitted more than 28 days after the expiry of their previous leave and before 31 October 2016. The application was made a day after leave expired but within 28 days.
As I see it, the OP's wife does not meet either bulletpoint 2 or 3 below.
Page 27 of Nationality policy: Naturalisation as a British citizen by discretion wrote:You must only exercise discretion to disregard a period of unlawful residence if there are reasons for this which were clearly outside the applicant’s control, or if the breach was genuinely inadvertent and short.
Examples of when you might exercise discretion include where:
• the breach occurred at a time when the applicant was a minor whose parents failed to obtain or renew their leave • the applicant was a victim of domestic violence whose abusive partner prevented the renewal of leave
• the applicant had made an ‘in-time’application, but the application was rejected and so they became in breach
- this is provided there is no reason to doubt that the form was submitted in good faith and a fresh application was submitted within 28 days of the rejection and before 31 October 2016
• the person had made a late application for leave to remain which was subsequently granted and either the:
- application was not submitted more than 28 days after the expiry of their previous leave and before 31 October 2016
- application was not submitted after more than 28 days overstaying if it was an asylum application
- person had a period of more than 28 days between their leave expiring and them making a new application and there were exceptional circumstances such as a family illness or bereavement o period of overstaying ended on or after 31 October 2016 and leave was granted in accordance with paragraph 39E of the Immigration Rules
• the person arrived the UK clandestinely but either presented themself without delay to the immigration authorities or was detected by the immigration authorities shortly after arrival: o the maximum period involved should normally be 1 month, but may be longer if there are extenuating circumstances o in these cases you can waive the breach that occurred from entry until the person’s first application for leave or asylum was determined, provided the application was granted
• an application for asylum or leave to remain was refused but was later acknowledged to be an incorrect decision and the appropriate leave was granted
You must not exercise discretion to disregard a period of unlawful residence in any other circumstances, and particularly not when the breach was both substantial and deliberate.This puzzles me too. I would have thought she would get a 10 year ban, I.e. she can reapply after 10 years of having been lawfully in the UK. Possibly a typo?
This would be overlooked for ILR but not for citizenship.We have applied with in 28-days of visa expired