ESC

Click the "allow" button if you want to receive important news and updates from immigrationboards.com


Immigrationboards.com: Immigration, work visa and work permit discussion board

Welcome to immigrationboards.com!

Login Register Do not show

EEA Family Permit + Residence card application

Use this section for any queries concerning the EU Settlement Scheme, for applicants holding pre-settled and settled status.

Moderators: Casa, John, ChetanOjha, archigabe, CR001, push, JAJ, ca.funke, Amber, zimba, vinny, Obie, EUsmileWEallsmile, batleykhan, meself2, geriatrix

Locked
laluchasigue
Newly Registered
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:28 pm
Venezuela

EEA Family Permit + Residence card application

Post by laluchasigue » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:35 pm

Hi,

I am a venezuelan citizen living in the UK with a EEA Family Permit set to expire in late December 2017. I am married to a EEA national. As some of you might know, I need a visa to enter the UK, even as a tourist. As of right now, I am preparing my residence card application, and I am expecting to hear back from the Home Office in regards of my application after my EEA family permit expires. My questions are the following:

- Can I legally be in the UK after my EEA family permit expires and my residence card hasn't come through? Or will I be overstaying? Can I work?
- Will I need to leave the UK and apply for another EEA Family Permit?

Thank you

Richard W
- thin ice -
Posts: 1950
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:25 am
Location: Stevenage
England

Re: EEA Family Permit + Residence card application

Post by Richard W » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:28 am

laluchasigue wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:35 pm
- Can I legally be in the UK after my EEA family permit expires and my residence card hasn't come through?
Yes.
laluchasigue wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:35 pm
Or will I be overstaying?
No.
laluchasigue wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:35 pm
Can I work?
Yes. In practice, to work as an employee you will need to receive a certificate of application (CoA) confirming a right to work as a result of your application for an RC.
laluchasigue wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:35 pm
- Will I need to leave the UK and apply for another EEA Family Permit?
No. However, if you leave the UK, you are likely to need an EEA family permit to be able to reach the British border.

Wendy D
Newly Registered
Posts: 1
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:07 am
France

Re: EEA Family Permit + Residence card application

Post by Wendy D » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:16 am

Hi, Richard,

Please may i further clarify with you, if the non-EEA person enters into UK with tourist visa and subsequently applied for EEA residence card, is it the same case that he/she can stay while waiting for the results even though the tourist visa would be expired before the result is released?

What is the exact regulation / clause to support this? ... just want to get more reassurance as i am a bit paranoid. :oops:

Your answer and help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Best,
Wendy

Richard W
- thin ice -
Posts: 1950
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:25 am
Location: Stevenage
England

Re: EEA Family Permit + Residence card application

Post by Richard W » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:25 pm

Wendy D wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:16 am
Please may i further clarify with you, if the non-EEA person enters into UK with tourist visa and subsequently applied for EEA residence card, is it the same case that he/she can stay while waiting for the results even though the tourist visa would be expired before the result is released?
It's good that the answer is also applicable to Laluchasigue, as a tourist visa is not the same as a family permit.

Nowadays, the practical answer is Regulation 14, 'extended right of residence'. The regulation grants an automatic right; it does not say when permission to reside should be granted. Regulation 13 sometimes applies, but the right under that regulation lasts for no more than 3 months, which is currently not time enough to get a residence card.

There is one exception to this automatic right. According to the regulations, an extended family member is a family member and therefore has rights only so long as they hold a valid family permit or residence card. This could be embarrassing if the family permit expires while waiting for the residence card. There is a belief that Section 3C of the Immigration Act 1971 would apply in such a case, but this is hotly disputed. In practical terms, it would be unlikely to be 'proportionate' to remove from the UK someone who had entered on a family permit and would qualify for a residence card if they were a family member.

Note that the fact of applying for a residence card does not entitle (except possibly in the case of extended family members) one to remain in the UK. It is having the right that the residence card would evidence that provides the entitlement. If the EEA sponsor is not a permanent resident and is not a qualified person, one is not entitled to stay while waiting for the decision. This is quite different to Section 3C.

Locked