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Double Confirmation Emails with different case IDs

Post by dhyperion » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:55 pm

Hi All

I applied for naturalisation as an EEA national a few weeks ago and all is/was going fine. Got my email and letter confirmation, payment taken and biometrics enrolled. Checked my case id and it sayd "awaiting decision". So far so good.

Today I randomly received second confirmation email (exactly the same as the first one) but with a different case id (??). I have no idea where this came from and I have not made any other applications. The "new" case id doesn't seem to bring any results when I use the online checking service.

Has anyone come across this before? Is this normal? I tried phoning them and they basically said I have to write to them as they can't help me over the phone. I will write to them to get some clarification, but in the meantime I just wanted to check whether anyone has had this happen to them and whether they can shed some light...?

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Re: Double Confirmation Emails with different case IDs

Post by zapzap » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:24 pm

Hi dhyperion

Not the same case and probably it won't help you but I just wanted to share my experience.

The HO works in a mysterious way.

In my case the email acknowledgement was sent to my husband's email address instead of my email which was given on the AN form. I don't know why they used that one but I think they crossed references between my previous application which was linked to my husband's. At this time, I am the only one who is applying for citizenship at the moment and once I receive the approval my husband will apply

I just waited for the acknowledgement letter by post and use that reference instead of the email's one. I applied in July so I won't get an approval until November sometime.

I wouldn't be worried about the two reference numbers, just use the one you received with the biometric letter as it will have your details linked to it.

Just one question, did anyone else applied with you? wife/husband?

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Re: Double Confirmation Emails with different case IDs

Post by dhyperion » Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:18 pm

Hi zapzap

Thanks for replying.

yes, it's definitely mysterious (or cr*p if you ask me). I applied only for myself so there's noone else involved in the process.

I suspect it's someone making a mistake and creating another case and then possibly deleting it, but the system sent out an email automatically. But that's just a theory (?).

It's probably nothing to worry about but I'm quite OCD when it comes to organising and making sure things are done right, and these types of "mistakes" (or otherwise) get on my nerves.

If I search with the original case id I get the status I'm expecting. This new one doesn't return any results on the online status search. So I might leave it for a few days - if I get an actual (second) letter through the post I will write to them.

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Biometric Card

Post by dhyperion » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:41 pm

Hi all

This question may have been asked before but I couldn't find anything when I searched. I have applied for citizenship as an EEA national and received a letter to enrol for biometrics which I have done - so far so good.

It's now been over a month and I haven't received the actual card, but I'm a bit confused as to whether I'm actually going to get one? Reading the guide on the home office website for biometrics it says you'll get the card on approval? This is a bit confusing as we're also required to send the card in to be destroyed when we get the application approved which doesn't make sense?

The way I interpret this is that if you already have a biometric card that you received as part of a previous application (eg ILR etc), you have to post it with your application, and then you get it back if you're successful you have to post it back to for it to get destroyed after the ceremony when it all becomes official.

So seeing as I never had one to begin with as EEA nationals don't get issued biometric cards (as far as I'm aware), does this then mean that I will not be receiving a card even though I have submitted biometric readings?

I'm hoping my question/query above makes sense - basically I can't figure out whether I'm going to get such a card at any point in this process and when I'm suppose to be getting it. Can anyone shed some light on this?

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Re: Biometric Card

Post by CR001 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:47 pm

dhyperion wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:41 pm
Hi all

This question may have been asked before but I couldn't find anything when I searched. I have applied for citizenship as an EEA national and received a letter to enrol for biometrics which I have done - so far so good.

It's now been over a month and I haven't received the actual card, but I'm a bit confused as to whether I'm actually going to get one? Reading the guide on the home office website for biometrics it says you'll get the card on approval? This is a bit confusing as we're also required to send the card in to be destroyed when we get the application approved which doesn't make sense?

The way I interpret this is that if you already have a biometric card that you received as part of a previous application (eg ILR etc), you have to post it with your application, and then you get it back if you're successful you have to post it back to for it to get destroyed after the ceremony when it all becomes official.

So seeing as I never had one to begin with as EEA nationals don't get issued biometric cards (as far as I'm aware), does this then mean that I will not be receiving a card even though I have submitted biometric readings?

I'm hoping my question/query above makes sense - basically I can't figure out whether I'm going to get such a card at any point in this process and when I'm suppose to be getting it. Can anyone shed some light on this?
You don't get a card. You are only required to enroll your biometrics at the Post Office, which are sent to HO electronically. You don't get anything after doing this.

Enrolling your biometrics is only to confirm your identity and that you are the person who submitted the citizenship application.

EDIT : presumably you have a document certifying PR???
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Re: Biometric Card

Post by dhyperion » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:50 pm

Thanks CR001 - that's what I thought and it makes sense.

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Re: Biometric Card

Post by dhyperion » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:51 pm

Yes I do have a PR which was included as part of my application.

Would that need to be sent back and destroyed?

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Re: Biometric Card

Post by CR001 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:55 pm

No you don't have to send your PR card back.
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Re: Biometric Card

Post by Alecarrey » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:33 pm

Hello there.
Few weeks ago I posted similar question regarding sending back the Biometric permanent Residence Card of an EEA family member (plastic format) and someone said that it should be sent back while others said the opposite as it is granted under EU law so belongs to the EEA family member.
So reading this new post I still have no idea what I should do once attend to the ceremony of citizenship.
Again, should I send the BRP (plastic one) of EEA family member back within five days from ceremony?????
Thank you.

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Re: Biometric Card

Post by CR001 » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:54 pm

Alecarrey wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:33 pm
Hello there.
Few weeks ago I posted similar question regarding sending back the Biometric permanent Residence Card of an EEA family member (plastic format) and someone said that it should be sent back while others said the opposite as it is granted under EU law so belongs to the EEA family member.
So reading this new post I still have no idea what I should do once attend to the ceremony of citizenship.
Again, should I send the BRP (plastic one) of EEA family member back within five days from ceremony?????
Thank you.
There is a difference. Applicants applying for PR card are only applying for confirmation of a status they have already automatically attained.

People applying for ILR under the UK immigration rules DO NOT automatically attain ILR at all. They have to qualify for it, meet ALL the requirements and pay substantial sum for ILR. For them, citizeship effectively cancels their ILR and renders the BRP card useless, which is not the case for EU route migrants as they don't lose their status they attained.
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Re: Biometric Card

Post by Alecarrey » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:13 pm

Thank you very much for your response.

As a conclusion:

EEA family member BRP card doesn't need to be send to HO once such a person becomes British citizen.

Am I right?

Any link confirming that?

Once again thank you.

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