delay in citizenship application - applied in 2016

[Obie]

No one can publish solicitors details on the forum. This is impermissible.

[Makhtar8155]

Hi guys i had appt with my solicitor he is agree to go to high court but he was asking €3000.thats too much do anybody know any cheap immigration lawyer.

3000 is too much, I know some one who take around bajwa500 and the rest amout they get from department if case continue to high court but dont know how I can pass his details to u.

Can we ask to admin to pass the details of that solicitor?

[Finepaddy]

Yes no one that's why didn't mention his address

[Alixlboy]

Applied in Nov 2016. Rang today to get an update the lady on phone said waiting Foreign Agency Report to further process your app as I said the has been said several times before as well, she then said we have requested a fresh one on 13th feb.
While they sent several letters before that your app is being prepared for submission in 2017 and 18.

If the flag attached to your account is truly representing your country of origin, then it is kind of obvious that they are discriminating you based on your country of origin. Pity that the approach followed by the department seems to play a waiting game and keep people waiting indefinitely till either they leave the country or go for legal action...

Yes many people I know from Pakistan are waiting for 2-3 years and longer and other countries do not take so long. You are correct.

People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.

Agreed. If I get treated like that, I would even get some posters, gather my friends and go outside their burgh Quay office for a protest.
People did that and got rid of the stupid re entry visas.
INIS have this childish excuse that citizenship is not a right, but a privilege. They do forget that protesting against discrimination is our right though.
No countries including Pakistan should be discriminated. Pakistanis pay the taxes in this country as well, just like any other nationalities.

[Makhtar8155]

No one can publish solicitors details on the forum. This is impermissible.

Can you please pass the solicitor details to me .Ta

[CR001]

No one can publish solicitors details on the forum. This is impermissible.

Can you please pass the solicitor details to me .Ta

Read what obie has posted again so that you are clear that solicitor details are NOT permitted to be posted on the forum!!!

[markem]

People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.

I am not sure you can argue that there is special treatment just on the basis of numbers at ceremonies. I understand that you have experienced a long time for approval, but just looking at the numbers from the last ceremony doesn't make the point as in previous ceremonies there have been many more from Pakistan. 115 in the November 2018 ceremony, and 147 in May 2018 Ceremony.

As a point of comparison, there were 84 and 87 in each ceremony from China. If I look at 2016 census, there were 9,600 Chinese nationals and 7,400 Pakistani nationals in Ireland.

[Obie]

According to the 2016 Census report, there are actually 12,891 Pakistani National living in Ireland, an increase of about 5k since 2011. Therefore your figure of the population of Pakistani is much lower than it actually is.

[markem]

According to the 2016 Census report, there are actually 12,891 Pakistani National living in Ireland, an increase of about 5k since 2011. Therefore your figure of the population of Pakistani is much lower than it actually is.

Interesting - can you link to the report?

I am looking at Statbank table E7002 "Population Usually Resident and Present in the State 2011 to 2016 by Nationality, Sex, County of Usual Residence and Census Year"

Also this link has the same number.

In there, I can see: 2011 (6,847) and 2016 (7,351). There is also a number in 2016 of 2,769 Irish-Pakistani. I left this out of my earlier post as this would seem to be people from Pakistan who already have Irish citizenship. That's a total of 10,120 so still not close to your number.

[Obie]

https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/relea ... ersity.pdf

see page 2.

One must note that it is people born in Pakistan, who will usually be Pakistani anyway, unless they are of Afghani origin born in Pakistan.

I accept that some may hold UK nationality also and included in the count. So you figure in the end may be correct.

[rockyguy]

https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/relea ... ersity.pdf

see page 2.

One must note that it is people born in Pakistan, who will usually be Pakistani anyway, unless they are of Afghani origin born in Pakistan.

I accept that some may hold UK nationality also and included in the count. So you figure in the end may be correct.

Guys department dont want to give any decisions on ur cases. If they wanted they would have dont it already. This delay is on purpose not processing anything. Please guys we all have to go to court and organize some protest against the negligence of the department.

[Obie]

Have you contacted your TD or written to the department of justice to seek an update or explanation?

[rockyguy]

Have you contacted your TD or written to the department of justice to seek an update or explanation?

I did it last year. TD got the same copy paste reply. No gain. TD cant do anything. If you know you are a genuine applicant and confident about your case so come forward and take a legal action in the form of JR ( Judicial review ) or the protest. Involve social media aswell.

[aneelrahim]

People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship. So I think we have to create thread to discuss the experience from Pakistan.

I am not sure you can argue that there is special treatment just on the basis of numbers at ceremonies. I understand that you have experienced a long time for approval, but just looking at the numbers from the last ceremony doesn't make the point as in previous ceremonies there have been many more from Pakistan. 115 in the November 2018 ceremony, and 147 in May 2018 Ceremony.

As a point of comparison, there were 84 and 87 in each ceremony from China. If I look at 2016 census, there were 9,600 Chinese nationals and 7,400 Pakistani nationals in Ireland.

Hi Markam
My comparison is not on the basis of number of ppl in ceremony.

PPl from Pakistan get citizenship but normally waiting more then 15 months. Have you find anyone get earlier than it

[markem]

People from Pakistan have special treatment here. The last ceremony in April doesn't mention how many people get citizenship from Pakistan. The minimum number is 61 people from China so I assume people from Pakistan are less than 30 that get citizenship.

My comparison is not on the basis of number of ppl in ceremony.

I was commenting on what you wrote which was about the number of people in the last ceremony from Pakistan compared to the number of people from China.

PPl from Pakistan get citizenship but normally waiting more then 15 months. Have you find anyone get earlier than it

No. But I'm not sure anyone has facts on that by country of origin.

[RajSingh1]

https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/relea ... ersity.pdf

see page 2.

One must note that it is people born in Pakistan, who will usually be Pakistani anyway, unless they are of Afghani origin born in Pakistan.

I accept that some may hold UK nationality also and included in the count. So you figure in the end may be correct.

Guys department dont want to give any decisions on ur cases. If they wanted they would have dont it already. This delay is on purpose not processing anything. Please guys we all have to go to court and organize some protest against the negligence of the department.

Hi rocky guy I just got an email from the department saying my file has been submitted to the minister of justice, how long do you think I will get a decision.

[pissedoffbyinis]

I got this reply 1.5 years ago and still waiting for the decision... so do not trust their words at all.

[aneelrahim]

https://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/relea ... ersity.pdf

see page 2.

One must note that it is people born in Pakistan, who will usually be Pakistani anyway, unless they are of Afghani origin born in Pakistan.

I accept that some may hold UK nationality also and included in the count. So you figure in the end may be correct.

Guys department dont want to give any decisions on ur cases. If they wanted they would have dont it already. This delay is on purpose not processing anything. Please guys we all have to go to court and organize some protest against the negligence of the department.

Hi rocky guy I just got an email from the department saying my file has been submitted to the minister of justice, how long do you think I will get a decision.

They told me January that my file is prepared. After that some week they say file submitted and another week say it is not submitted

So still playing submitted and not submitted....

[Esha011]

This thread is quiet for long time anybody any update ?

[markem]

This thread is quiet for long time anybody any update ?

Perhaps you could post your full timeline?

[Esha011]

Applied in august 2016 recieved seconed stage letter in december 2016.In june 2018 they asked to send copy of gnib and psc card to ceremonies team.i thought they ask for ceremonies team so might get soon but i was wrong nothing since

[Captainf]

No update yet... Sent 2 emails dated 5th June and July, No replies...

[Fountainhill]

Hi ...I can understand the frustration and I think its ridiculous . I am from 2017 timeline and to date I am waiting so yesterday I wrote to them hoping that I will get a response .Maybe you can try that

[markem]

Applied in august 2016 recieved seconed stage letter in december 2016.In june 2018 they asked to send copy of gnib and psc card to ceremonies team.i thought they ask for ceremonies team so might get soon but i was wrong nothing since

According to INIS, in May 2019 there were 763 applications still waiting from 2016 (out of 13,000). On this forum, I think there are only 3 people waiting longer than you. If I were you, I would do a FOI request to find out what is happening.

[Lily3]

Applied in august 2016 recieved seconed stage letter in december 2016.In june 2018 they asked to send copy of gnib and psc card to ceremonies team.i thought they ask for ceremonies team so might get soon but i was wrong nothing since

According to INIS, in May 2019 there were 763 applications still waiting from 2016 (out of 13,000). On this forum, I think there are only 3 people waiting longer than you. If I were you, I would do a FOI request to find out what is happening.

Hi. I got FOI on my application. It has been filled upto question 21 in which someone has signed and sent me second stage letter in the end of 2017 and no other question is filled. But there is another checklist(submission checklist prior to submission for Minister decision) which is all filled and signed in Oct 2018. I don’t understand when everything is done then why they are delaying. Any suggestions what to do please?