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I've shared my story as well!nshar4 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:30 pmWould ask as many of you to share your story with BBC at haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk . I have shared mine lets do an effort to end this month on month uncertainty
I think the Guardian might be a good betcanadarox wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:01 pmI've shared my story as well!nshar4 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:30 pmWould ask as many of you to share your story with BBC at haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk . I have shared mine lets do an effort to end this month on month uncertainty
Does anyone have suggestions for any other media outlets?
Believe me, Govt is very much aware of this situation. No matter whether these emails,petitions,letters sent, they will respond only when decide to review the situation.Idiot spammer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:20 pmhttps://petition.parliament.uk/sponsors ... tBErQwP8Mv
Hi all – Please send these words via email, letter, social media to everyone and politiciuans/news.
Also – here is a link to the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... 2tKekrlMXL
Dear Reader
By hindering prospective NHS medical practitioners to provide primary/secondary healthcare, the public’s wellbeing and health is being sacrificed by the UK Government. Regardless of one's opinions on Brexit, the Government’s policy decisions on immigration and the NHS are posing a major risk to the health of society and the future of UK businesses. We are at a crucial juncture as skilled, overseas Doctors and General Dentists, those required to support a stricken NHS are being turned away.
Since December 2017, businesses (and inevitably taxpayers) have had to fund the 261.9% increase in salary required for front-line overseas NHS medical practitioners to enter and deliver core primary/secondary health services. For the first time in years the immigration cap has been met. Moreover, for the first time in history the cap has been met for five months in a row. Those required to provide crucial work at the time they are needed the most to meet basic, societal health requirements are prohibited from entering the health system
Action is required in order for businesses to survive and the economy to feel the benefits from professionally skilled high-earners. Of greater importance is that these skilled workers are required to ensure adequate health care is provided, thus:
- Those jobs falling under ‘shortage occupation’ have to be considered out with the annual allocation of Restricted (Tier-2 Non-EU/Overseas) Certificate of Sponsorship
As a sponsoring employer, I have first-hand experience with the successes of previous immigration processes having sponsored many vitally skilled dentists who contribute to the health and wellbeing of society, whilst benefitting the economy in abundance. Since December, I cannot stand idly by whilst patient wellbeing is drastically suffering upon strategic policy decisions overseen by the UK Government and The Rt. Hon. Caroline Nokes MP (Immigration Minister).
The details are as follows. Per Annum, there are 20,700 restricted certificates of sponsorship for employers to sponsor non-EU workers under Tier-2 (General) Visas. The Post-Brexit shortfall of nurses has led to the nursing profession being rightly placed on the shortage occupation list. With the NHS severely under-staffed and under-funded, there is also a major shortage of many medical occupations. So, to declare that the requirements of the shortage occupation list have to be within the total quota is dangerously perilous. The Government’s attempt to rationalise and propagate better immigration numbers comes at the sacrifice to UK businesses, the UK economy, and of gravest concern to myself the wellbeing of society.
This skewed process fundamentally lacks a cogent logic or correlation with the shortage occupation list and the need for other skilled NHS staff. The detrimental impact on UK businesses, employers, the NHS, millions of patients, and the wider public is perilous.
Month
Total Points Required
Salary Required (non-shortage occupation)
Increase in Salary from November 2017
November 2017
21
£21,000
N/A
December 2017
55
£55,000
£34,000
January 2018
46
£46,000
£25,000
February 2018
45
£45,000
£24,000
March 2018
56
£56,000
£35,000
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ponsorship
Current issues concerning the Windrush Generation reflect the level of insecurity and polarised hostility engulfing politics and society. Placing patient care at risk is unpalatable. To quote a prospective NHS worker from Canada:
’ I understand why this system is in place. Every country wants to protect its borders and control flow of immigration. This is fine. I have no issues with that. My issue is that I work for the NHS. Very few make >50K. Especially newly qualified staff. Everyone knows the NHS is short-staffed and in a crises across the board and in particular winter months. It's getting much worse and will continue to do so as EU citizens are leaving the UK at record numbers. Who's going to suffer? At the end of the day it is the patients’
Sincerely,
A Concerned Business-Owner and Citizen
sptula wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pmBelieve me, Govt is very much aware of this situation. No matter whether these emails,petitions,letters sent, they will respond only when decide to review the situation.Idiot spammer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:20 pmhttps://petition.parliament.uk/sponsors ... tBErQwP8Mv
Hi all – Please send these words via email, letter, social media to everyone and politiciuans/news.
Also – here is a link to the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... 2tKekrlMXL
Dear Reader
By hindering prospective NHS medical practitioners to provide primary/secondary healthcare, the public’s wellbeing and health is being sacrificed by the UK Government. Regardless of one's opinions on Brexit, the Government’s policy decisions on immigration and the NHS are posing a major risk to the health of society and the future of UK businesses. We are at a crucial juncture as skilled, overseas Doctors and General Dentists, those required to support a stricken NHS are being turned away.
Since December 2017, businesses (and inevitably taxpayers) have had to fund the 261.9% increase in salary required for front-line overseas NHS medical practitioners to enter and deliver core primary/secondary health services. For the first time in years the immigration cap has been met. Moreover, for the first time in history the cap has been met for five months in a row. Those required to provide crucial work at the time they are needed the most to meet basic, societal health requirements are prohibited from entering the health system
Action is required in order for businesses to survive and the economy to feel the benefits from professionally skilled high-earners. Of greater importance is that these skilled workers are required to ensure adequate health care is provided, thus:
- Those jobs falling under ‘shortage occupation’ have to be considered out with the annual allocation of Restricted (Tier-2 Non-EU/Overseas) Certificate of Sponsorship
As a sponsoring employer, I have first-hand experience with the successes of previous immigration processes having sponsored many vitally skilled dentists who contribute to the health and wellbeing of society, whilst benefitting the economy in abundance. Since December, I cannot stand idly by whilst patient wellbeing is drastically suffering upon strategic policy decisions overseen by the UK Government and The Rt. Hon. Caroline Nokes MP (Immigration Minister).
The details are as follows. Per Annum, there are 20,700 restricted certificates of sponsorship for employers to sponsor non-EU workers under Tier-2 (General) Visas. The Post-Brexit shortfall of nurses has led to the nursing profession being rightly placed on the shortage occupation list. With the NHS severely under-staffed and under-funded, there is also a major shortage of many medical occupations. So, to declare that the requirements of the shortage occupation list have to be within the total quota is dangerously perilous. The Government’s attempt to rationalise and propagate better immigration numbers comes at the sacrifice to UK businesses, the UK economy, and of gravest concern to myself the wellbeing of society.
This skewed process fundamentally lacks a cogent logic or correlation with the shortage occupation list and the need for other skilled NHS staff. The detrimental impact on UK businesses, employers, the NHS, millions of patients, and the wider public is perilous.
Month
Total Points Required
Salary Required (non-shortage occupation)
Increase in Salary from November 2017
November 2017
21
£21,000
N/A
December 2017
55
£55,000
£34,000
January 2018
46
£46,000
£25,000
February 2018
45
£45,000
£24,000
March 2018
56
£56,000
£35,000
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ponsorship
Current issues concerning the Windrush Generation reflect the level of insecurity and polarised hostility engulfing politics and society. Placing patient care at risk is unpalatable. To quote a prospective NHS worker from Canada:
’ I understand why this system is in place. Every country wants to protect its borders and control flow of immigration. This is fine. I have no issues with that. My issue is that I work for the NHS. Very few make >50K. Especially newly qualified staff. Everyone knows the NHS is short-staffed and in a crises across the board and in particular winter months. It's getting much worse and will continue to do so as EU citizens are leaving the UK at record numbers. Who's going to suffer? At the end of the day it is the patients’
Sincerely,
A Concerned Business-Owner and Citizen
Most likely, RCOS cap and approval process wont be reviewed until Immigration deal is agreed part of BREXIT. until then givt can only show empathy to the situation
Idiot spammer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:20 pmhttps://petition.parliament.uk/sponsors ... tBErQwP8Mv
Hi all – Please send these words via email, letter, social media to everyone and politiciuans/news.
Also – here is a link to the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... 2tKekrlMXL
Dear Reader
By hindering prospective NHS medical practitioners to provide primary/secondary healthcare, the public’s wellbeing and health is being sacrificed by the UK Government. Regardless of one's opinions on Brexit, the Government’s policy decisions on immigration and the NHS are posing a major risk to the health of society and the future of UK businesses. We are at a crucial juncture as skilled, overseas Doctors and General Dentists, those required to support a stricken NHS are being turned away.
Since December 2017, businesses (and inevitably taxpayers) have had to fund the 261.9% increase in salary required for front-line overseas NHS medical practitioners to enter and deliver core primary/secondary health services. For the first time in years the immigration cap has been met. Moreover, for the first time in history the cap has been met for five months in a row. Those required to provide crucial work at the time they are needed the most to meet basic, societal health requirements are prohibited from entering the health system
Action is required in order for businesses to survive and the economy to feel the benefits from professionally skilled high-earners. Of greater importance is that these skilled workers are required to ensure adequate health care is provided, thus:
- Those jobs falling under ‘shortage occupation’ have to be considered out with the annual allocation of Restricted (Tier-2 Non-EU/Overseas) Certificate of Sponsorship
As a sponsoring employer, I have first-hand experience with the successes of previous immigration processes having sponsored many vitally skilled dentists who contribute to the health and wellbeing of society, whilst benefitting the economy in abundance. Since December, I cannot stand idly by whilst patient wellbeing is drastically suffering upon strategic policy decisions overseen by the UK Government and The Rt. Hon. Caroline Nokes MP (Immigration Minister).
The details are as follows. Per Annum, there are 20,700 restricted certificates of sponsorship for employers to sponsor non-EU workers under Tier-2 (General) Visas. The Post-Brexit shortfall of nurses has led to the nursing profession being rightly placed on the shortage occupation list. With the NHS severely under-staffed and under-funded, there is also a major shortage of many medical occupations. So, to declare that the requirements of the shortage occupation list have to be within the total quota is dangerously perilous. The Government’s attempt to rationalise and propagate better immigration numbers comes at the sacrifice to UK businesses, the UK economy, and of gravest concern to myself the wellbeing of society.
This skewed process fundamentally lacks a cogent logic or correlation with the shortage occupation list and the need for other skilled NHS staff. The detrimental impact on UK businesses, employers, the NHS, millions of patients, and the wider public is perilous.
Month
Total Points Required
Salary Required (non-shortage occupation)
Increase in Salary from November 2017
November 2017
21
£21,000
N/A
December 2017
55
£55,000
£34,000
January 2018
46
£46,000
£25,000
February 2018
45
£45,000
£24,000
March 2018
56
£56,000
£35,000
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ponsorship
Current issues concerning the Windrush Generation reflect the level of insecurity and polarised hostility engulfing politics and society. Placing patient care at risk is unpalatable. To quote a prospective NHS worker from Canada:
’ I understand why this system is in place. Every country wants to protect its borders and control flow of immigration. This is fine. I have no issues with that. My issue is that I work for the NHS. Very few make >50K. Especially newly qualified staff. Everyone knows the NHS is short-staffed and in a crises across the board and in particular winter months. It's getting much worse and will continue to do so as EU citizens are leaving the UK at record numbers. Who's going to suffer? At the end of the day it is the patients’
Sincerely,
A Concerned Business-Owner and Citizen
I don’t think anyone should be telling other posters what to do. No it certainly doesn’t look good for 30 and under (it doesn’t look good for 40 and under tbh), but you need to remember that this is people’s lives and everyone has different circumstances. Some people that have already lived in the UK need to go back but there are very few options other than tier 2.maticskhadka wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:40 pmBelow 30 should start looking for another option. I see no chance. and Yes UK don't want US.
tension2018 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:00 amHi,
First time posting however reading since January. I have already resigned from my office Jan 2018 and for the past four months i am just waiting for the COS. Now the UK employer is saying that we will apply but we can guarantee anything no specified time limit. Now my ex employer is asking to rejoin. Any suggestions (Points 36). It is worth to wait ???
you are saying of responsecanadarox wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:51 amsptula wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pmBelieve me, Govt is very much aware of this situation. No matter whether these emails,petitions,letters sent, they will respond only when decide to review the situation.Idiot spammer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:20 pmhttps://petition.parliament.uk/sponsors ... tBErQwP8Mv
Hi all – Please send these words via email, letter, social media to everyone and politiciuans/news.
Also – here is a link to the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... 2tKekrlMXL
Dear Reader
By hindering prospective NHS medical practitioners to provide primary/secondary healthcare, the public’s wellbeing and health is being sacrificed by the UK Government. Regardless of one's opinions on Brexit, the Government’s policy decisions on immigration and the NHS are posing a major risk to the health of society and the future of UK businesses. We are at a crucial juncture as skilled, overseas Doctors and General Dentists, those required to support a stricken NHS are being turned away.
Since December 2017, businesses (and inevitably taxpayers) have had to fund the 261.9% increase in salary required for front-line overseas NHS medical practitioners to enter and deliver core primary/secondary health services. For the first time in years the immigration cap has been met. Moreover, for the first time in history the cap has been met for five months in a row. Those required to provide crucial work at the time they are needed the most to meet basic, societal health requirements are prohibited from entering the health system
Action is required in order for businesses to survive and the economy to feel the benefits from professionally skilled high-earners. Of greater importance is that these skilled workers are required to ensure adequate health care is provided, thus:
- Those jobs falling under ‘shortage occupation’ have to be considered out with the annual allocation of Restricted (Tier-2 Non-EU/Overseas) Certificate of Sponsorship
As a sponsoring employer, I have first-hand experience with the successes of previous immigration processes having sponsored many vitally skilled dentists who contribute to the health and wellbeing of society, whilst benefitting the economy in abundance. Since December, I cannot stand idly by whilst patient wellbeing is drastically suffering upon strategic policy decisions overseen by the UK Government and The Rt. Hon. Caroline Nokes MP (Immigration Minister).
The details are as follows. Per Annum, there are 20,700 restricted certificates of sponsorship for employers to sponsor non-EU workers under Tier-2 (General) Visas. The Post-Brexit shortfall of nurses has led to the nursing profession being rightly placed on the shortage occupation list. With the NHS severely under-staffed and under-funded, there is also a major shortage of many medical occupations. So, to declare that the requirements of the shortage occupation list have to be within the total quota is dangerously perilous. The Government’s attempt to rationalise and propagate better immigration numbers comes at the sacrifice to UK businesses, the UK economy, and of gravest concern to myself the wellbeing of society.
This skewed process fundamentally lacks a cogent logic or correlation with the shortage occupation list and the need for other skilled NHS staff. The detrimental impact on UK businesses, employers, the NHS, millions of patients, and the wider public is perilous.
Month
Total Points Required
Salary Required (non-shortage occupation)
Increase in Salary from November 2017
November 2017
21
£21,000
N/A
December 2017
55
£55,000
£34,000
January 2018
46
£46,000
£25,000
February 2018
45
£45,000
£24,000
March 2018
56
£56,000
£35,000
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ponsorship
Current issues concerning the Windrush Generation reflect the level of insecurity and polarised hostility engulfing politics and society. Placing patient care at risk is unpalatable. To quote a prospective NHS worker from Canada:
’ I understand why this system is in place. Every country wants to protect its borders and control flow of immigration. This is fine. I have no issues with that. My issue is that I work for the NHS. Very few make >50K. Especially newly qualified staff. Everyone knows the NHS is short-staffed and in a crises across the board and in particular winter months. It's getting much worse and will continue to do so as EU citizens are leaving the UK at record numbers. Who's going to suffer? At the end of the day it is the patients’
Sincerely,
A Concerned Business-Owner and Citizen
Most likely, RCOS cap and approval process wont be reviewed until Immigration deal is agreed part of BREXIT. until then givt can only show empathy to the situation
10,000 signatures will prompt a response from parliament. That kind of attitude won't help at all. You'd be surprised what people can do when they come together. Also, the public isn't very aware of this situation, it's not being reported as much as it should! So get you're story out. It takes all but 5 minutes and it'll help make a difference no matter how small.
Source? Can you tell me what they said? And anyways it was from the previous months, the fact that this continuing into April and maybe a few months later hasn't been addressed.sptula wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:45 pmyou are saying of responsecanadarox wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:51 amsptula wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pmBelieve me, Govt is very much aware of this situation. No matter whether these emails,petitions,letters sent, they will respond only when decide to review the situation.Idiot spammer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:20 pmhttps://petition.parliament.uk/sponsors ... tBErQwP8Mv
Hi all – Please send these words via email, letter, social media to everyone and politiciuans/news.
Also – here is a link to the petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petition ... 2tKekrlMXL
Dear Reader
By hindering prospective NHS medical practitioners to provide primary/secondary healthcare, the public’s wellbeing and health is being sacrificed by the UK Government. Regardless of one's opinions on Brexit, the Government’s policy decisions on immigration and the NHS are posing a major risk to the health of society and the future of UK businesses. We are at a crucial juncture as skilled, overseas Doctors and General Dentists, those required to support a stricken NHS are being turned away.
Since December 2017, businesses (and inevitably taxpayers) have had to fund the 261.9% increase in salary required for front-line overseas NHS medical practitioners to enter and deliver core primary/secondary health services. For the first time in years the immigration cap has been met. Moreover, for the first time in history the cap has been met for five months in a row. Those required to provide crucial work at the time they are needed the most to meet basic, societal health requirements are prohibited from entering the health system
Action is required in order for businesses to survive and the economy to feel the benefits from professionally skilled high-earners. Of greater importance is that these skilled workers are required to ensure adequate health care is provided, thus:
- Those jobs falling under ‘shortage occupation’ have to be considered out with the annual allocation of Restricted (Tier-2 Non-EU/Overseas) Certificate of Sponsorship
As a sponsoring employer, I have first-hand experience with the successes of previous immigration processes having sponsored many vitally skilled dentists who contribute to the health and wellbeing of society, whilst benefitting the economy in abundance. Since December, I cannot stand idly by whilst patient wellbeing is drastically suffering upon strategic policy decisions overseen by the UK Government and The Rt. Hon. Caroline Nokes MP (Immigration Minister).
The details are as follows. Per Annum, there are 20,700 restricted certificates of sponsorship for employers to sponsor non-EU workers under Tier-2 (General) Visas. The Post-Brexit shortfall of nurses has led to the nursing profession being rightly placed on the shortage occupation list. With the NHS severely under-staffed and under-funded, there is also a major shortage of many medical occupations. So, to declare that the requirements of the shortage occupation list have to be within the total quota is dangerously perilous. The Government’s attempt to rationalise and propagate better immigration numbers comes at the sacrifice to UK businesses, the UK economy, and of gravest concern to myself the wellbeing of society.
This skewed process fundamentally lacks a cogent logic or correlation with the shortage occupation list and the need for other skilled NHS staff. The detrimental impact on UK businesses, employers, the NHS, millions of patients, and the wider public is perilous.
Month
Total Points Required
Salary Required (non-shortage occupation)
Increase in Salary from November 2017
November 2017
21
£21,000
N/A
December 2017
55
£55,000
£34,000
January 2018
46
£46,000
£25,000
February 2018
45
£45,000
£24,000
March 2018
56
£56,000
£35,000
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ponsorship
Current issues concerning the Windrush Generation reflect the level of insecurity and polarised hostility engulfing politics and society. Placing patient care at risk is unpalatable. To quote a prospective NHS worker from Canada:
’ I understand why this system is in place. Every country wants to protect its borders and control flow of immigration. This is fine. I have no issues with that. My issue is that I work for the NHS. Very few make >50K. Especially newly qualified staff. Everyone knows the NHS is short-staffed and in a crises across the board and in particular winter months. It's getting much worse and will continue to do so as EU citizens are leaving the UK at record numbers. Who's going to suffer? At the end of the day it is the patients’
Sincerely,
A Concerned Business-Owner and Citizen
Most likely, RCOS cap and approval process wont be reviewed until Immigration deal is agreed part of BREXIT. until then givt can only show empathy to the situation
10,000 signatures will prompt a response from parliament. That kind of attitude won't help at all. You'd be surprised what people can do when they come together. Also, the public isn't very aware of this situation, it's not being reported as much as it should! So get you're story out. It takes all but 5 minutes and it'll help make a difference no matter how small.
probably you are missing one thing here, UK Immigration minister has already respond in parliment for this issue, PM also responded
Great idea, thanks! I would just make one change and put 45 as another bracket altogether as it covers salaries between 45-49.9k and a lot of people are stuck on 45 so it's a crucial one.StephenH wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:17 pmHey everyone!
I've created a quick poll to kind of get an idea of where everyone is sitting in regards to points. This could be a really useful indicator of how many people are waiting so please go and choose your bracket.
http://pollmaker.vote/p/DJHLPKIM
Great Idea BroStephenH wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:17 pmHey everyone!
I've created a quick poll to kind of get an idea of where everyone is sitting in regards to points. This could be a really useful indicator of how many people are waiting so please go and choose your bracket.
http://pollmaker.vote/p/DJHLPKIM