nayeem27 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:58 pm
Dear all
Please kindly help me who have already applied for FLR (M) through Sopra Steria (New Service)
My Visa will be expired on 08 Feb 19 , I'm planning to apply 28 days before which is about 14 Jan 19.
My question is if I submit application today (07 Dec 18) or tomorrow (08 Dec 18) after paying (Visa Fees + IHS), which one would be my application date ? Today (07 Dec 18) ? or the date when I will book an appointment for Bio-metric & show document evidences?
There is no clear instruction from UKVI or Sopra Steria...
If anyone could help that would be greatly appreciated..
Kind Regards
Nayeem
Hi nayeem. My wife and I are currently applying for my wife's first extension of leave to remain under the FLR(M) application. We paid on 29 November and she has her appointment on 11 December. My wife's visa is due to expire on 7 Jan 19 so her 28 days begin on 10 December.
The PSC rules before the change to Sopra Steria were such that you could book the appointment online and the date of "submission" for the immigration rules was the date of the appointment. With the Sopra Steria system it is ambiguous and unclear whether "submitted" is when you pay or when you go to the Sopra Steria appointment. In light of this confusion, and no published guidance by the Home Office in respect of any change to the definition of "submitted" for immigration rule purposes, I rang up the Home Office.
The first lady I spoke to said the date of submission was the date you paid for the appointment, and my wife had applied to early and had to withdraw her application with no refund. She then hung up on me... so I rang back. The second person told me that the date of submission was the date of the appointment.
For one, I knew the first lady was incorrect about the refund as I have seen people on the forums getting refunds even when the application was within the country. Secondly, I had received contradictory advice. I then spoke to an immigration lawyer for clarification. He was uncertain as he said the Sopra Steria system was so new he did not know what the rules were. When the Home Office and an immigration lawyer don't know what the rule is, it is evidently unclear. So I wrote to my MP and explained the situation, the urgency for my wife's visa for personal reasons, and the contradiction in the (lack of) definition of "submitted" for the purposes of the immigration rules.
She agreed it was unacceptable to have this uncertainty, and also not acceptable for the Home Office to change the interpretation of "submitted" without published guidance. She spoke to the Home Office and they said to her that our application would be fine. We are going to have our Sopra Steria appointment on 11 Dec and I will let you know how it goes. If we are successful then the interpretation is clear - you can pay for your application before the 28 days starts so long as you go to your appointment during the 28 day period. Regardless of the situation though, if you can avoid applying early and just wait until you are in the 28 day period, that would be easier (assuming you have no urgent need for the visa, unlike we do as we are flying back to my wife's country for Christmas as her mum is ill).
I have also submitted a FOI request so their response on this matter is public - to reduce the uncertainty out there at the moment.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... ng-1274844 is the link. Although it doesn't have the answer yet, by the second week of January it should have been responded to.
I'm trying my best to clear this up for everyone and hopefully I will be able to provide you some further clarity in the next week (give or take!).