Visa issues. Dissertation Resubmission

Hi,
I was requested to resubmit my dissertation from.my University by 15th January 24. Unfortunately my visa expires 27th Jan. My department informed me that my results will be published by 26th Feb. I requested for a new cas but they refused. Also they refused to do adjustments in early release of my results or even submission of the dissertation. I would like to know what can be done in this case. Please help

Is your university willing to offer a graduate visa if you pass? If not, then you need to look at another visa route before the expiry of your student visa expires.

VinTho wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:25 pm

I requested for a new cas but they refused.

Why did they refuse to issue a CAS? This would be their choice, so I hope they are not hiding behind Home Office rules saying they are not allowed to.

Frontier Mole wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:34 pm

Is your university willing to offer a graduate visa if you pass? If not, then you need to look at another visa route before the expiry of your student visa expires.

I think university cannot decide about graduate as they are not providing graduate visa. Results won't be published within the date of visa expiry.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 10:18 am

VinTho wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:25 pm

I requested for a new cas but they refused.

Why did they refuse to issue a CAS? This would be their choice, so I hope they are not hiding behind Home Office rules saying they are not allowed to.

Hi have seen your comments in many other cases in this platform. Visa department of the university refused such possibility of getting cas and all.
I had a meeting with my hod today he said he will check the possibility. Can you help with the requirements of extending visa with new CAS if they issued. Before how many days I should apply. Do you have any link from gov.uk saying about giving CAS on resits for universities. I couldn't find any documents on CAS and such things. If you have anything of that sort I can forward it to my HOD

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:28 pm

Visa department of the university refused such possibility of getting cas and all.

Yes, but why? Is it the university policy, or are they saying Home Office rules don't allow it?

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:28 pm

Do you have any link from gov.uk saying about giving CAS on resits for universities. I couldn't find any documents on CAS and such things. If you have anything of that sort I can forward it to my HOD

It's the visa compliance people who decide, not your Head of Department. If they will not issue a CAS, they need to explain why not, and show you either the university policy on that, or where Home Office rules or guidance do not allow it, if that's what they are (wrongly) saying.

Also contact the students union at your university and explain your situation. It's almost certain that they have dealt with similar cases with other students. But you need to do that now - if not done yet, they might be disappearing by the end of this week and returning in the new year.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:27 pm

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:28 pm

Visa department of the university refused such possibility of getting cas and all.

Yes, but why? Is it the university policy, or are they saying Home Office rules don't allow it?

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:28 pm

Do you have any link from gov.uk saying about giving CAS on resits for universities. I couldn't find any documents on CAS and such things. If you have anything of that sort I can forward it to my HOD

It's the visa compliance people who decide, not your Head of Department. If they will not issue a CAS, they need to explain why not, and show you either the university policy on that, or where Home Office rules or guidance do not allow it, if that's what they are (wrongly) saying.

They didnt say any specific reason but what they said was we cannot provide inorder to wait for results. Can I know if I need to apply extension using CAS letter, by what I must apply. Did you apply before like this.

lolo2 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:08 pm

Also contact the students union at your university and explain your situation. It's almost certain that they have dealt with similar cases with other students. But you need to do that now - if not done yet, they might be disappearing by the end of this week and returning in the new year.

I contacted graduate students union. They said to apply complaint and they no much of clarity.

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:21 pm

They didnt say any specific reason but what they said was we cannot provide inorder to wait for results.

It is not in order to wait for your results, it is to complete your course. They can issue a CAS until your new hand-in date of 15 January 2024, for which the visa will be issued until that date + 4 months. It does not matter that this overlaps with the visa you already have.

This is very normal practice at most universities.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:37 pm

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:21 pm

They didnt say any specific reason but what they said was we cannot provide inorder to wait for results.

It is not in order to wait for your results, it is to complete your course. They can issue a CAS until your new hand-in date of 15 January 2024, for which the visa will be issued until that date + 4 months. It does not matter that this overlaps with the visa you already have.

This is very normal practice at most universities.

Thank you for the reply. I have a few doubts. Suppose if I get a new CAS letter. Is there any date that I must apply visa extension? I 'heard' before 28 days of expiry of current visa.

Could you provide any uk gov documents about this so that I can argue with them.

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:45 pm

Is there any date that I must apply visa extension? I 'heard' before 28 days of expiry of current visa.

Heard that where and from whom?

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:45 pm

Could you provide any uk gov documents about this so that I can argue with them.

It's just normal practice, sponsoring students to complete their course. It is not a special situation with specific guidance on how to manage it.

You could encourage them to speak with UKCISA, the UK Council for International Student Affairs, who provide advice on visa matters to both students and universities.

You can apply for a new visa right up to the date of your current expiry date.

There is nothing in Home Office guidance that compels an educational sponsor to issue a CAS. The sponsor decides whether they wish to issue an extension CAS for your circumstances. If they do not wish to do unless they have a stated policy on their position there is little to argue against.

On top of the other advice, I don't know if you have done all these queries to the university (including the students union) via email or in person, but try to speak with them in person - if possible. I've seen that some students didn't get a solution to their issues until they have a face to face meeting with someone. Need to emphasise to them that you have to complete your studies in the UK as it's your desire to apply for the graduate visa.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:56 pm

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:45 pm

Is there any date that I must apply visa extension? I 'heard' before 28 days of expiry of current visa.

Heard that where and from whom?

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:45 pm

Could you provide any uk gov documents about this so that I can argue with them.

It's just normal practice, sponsoring students to complete their course. It is not a special situation with specific guidance on how to manage it.

You could encourage them to speak with UKCISA, the UK Council for International Student Affairs, who provide advice on visa matters to both students and universities.

Specifically in the website of xxxxx I have seen you should apply before 28 days

OK. I'll try to convince like this

Moderator edit: Reference to Solicitor removed under the Board Ts&Cs

Frontier Mole wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:01 pm

You can apply for a new visa right up to the date of your current expiry date.

There is nothing in Home Office guidance that compels an educational sponsor to issue a CAS. The sponsor decides whether they wish to issue an extension CAS for your circumstances. If they do not wish to do unless they have a stated policy on their position there is little to argue against.

But submission of my dissertation is before expiry of my visa. That's why would like to know exactly at what time should apply for Extension if I got new visa

lolo2 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:16 pm

On top of the other advice, I don't know if you have done all these queries to the university (including the students union) via email or in person, but try to speak with them in person - if possible. I've seen that some students didn't get a solution to their issues until they have a face to face meeting with someone. Need to emphasise to them that you have to complete your studies in the UK as it's your desire to apply for the graduate visa.

Everything is through online except with my HOD. As you advice, I'll definitely make a face to face discussion.

You can apply for a visa extension at any time before your current leave expires, there's no such thing as a 28-days rule for this. Solicitors can give any random advice as they're just trying to get clients, always check guidance from official sources.

lolo2 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:43 pm

You can apply for a visa extension at any time before your current leave expires, there's no such thing as a 28-days rule for this. Solicitors can give any random advice as they're just trying to get clients, always check guidance from official sources.

Thank you. Also during resubmission of Dissertation, it is mandatory to stay with 20 hours work right. How do they create term time and off term time after 1st submission to 2nd submission.

Frontier Mole wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:01 pm

You can apply for a new visa right up to the date of your current expiry date.

As long as your university has issued a CAS, which they can only do if the course has not finished, which will be some time before the expiry date of the visa.

Once you have a CAS, you can apply any time on or before the date the visa expires.

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:46 pm

Also during resubmission of Dissertation, it is mandatory to stay with 20 hours work right. How do they create term time and off term time after 1st submission to 2nd submission.

That's a question for your university, but it is term-time until you have completed the course according to the new end date.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:35 am

VinTho wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:46 pm

Also during resubmission of Dissertation, it is mandatory to stay with 20 hours work right. How do they create term time and off term time after 1st submission to 2nd submission.

That's a question for your university, but it is term-time until you have completed the course according to the new end date.

My department agreed to release my results before expiry of my visa. Thank you everyone

I am just tensed about term times. I did full time in-between. Whether it will be issue for psw

VinTho wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 am

I am just tensed about term times. I did full time in-between. Whether it will be issue for psw

It is the university that checks this and confirms your eligibility for the Graduate visa, so you need to ask them.

sah10406 wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:11 am

VinTho wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:35 am

I am just tensed about term times. I did full time in-between. Whether it will be issue for psw

It is the university that checks this and confirms your eligibility for the Graduate visa, so you need to ask them.

Sorry I didn't get you. While applying for PSW, they check the hours of working. Right. I didn't get that university checks the hours of working.

VinTho wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:38 pm

Sorry I didn't get you. While applying for PSW, they check the hours of working. Right. I didn't get that university checks the hours of working.

The university checks that you are eligible to apply, based on your qualification and on your compliance with your Student visa conditions.

Separately, the application asks if you have ever worked without permission to do so, so that is your chance to explain any mistaken working more than the 20 hours a week allowed.