What visa could I apply for if I move to Germany?

Hi,
This is Ana mexican living in Ireland, I am planning to move to Munich, Germany with my German partner and my mexican daughter. I would like to know what type of visa I could apply for without the need to get married and being able to work remotely for my current Irish company.
I am a highly-skilled engineer and I have a long term residence in Ireland, I have applied for the Irish citizenship but I am thinking of giving it up as it has already taken 2 years.
Is it possible to enroll a german language course and get a visa? Which other options are available?

I would greatly appreciate any suggestion,
Regards,
Ana

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:37 pm

Hi,
This is Ana mexican living in Ireland, I am planning to move to Munich, Germany with my German partner and my mexican daughter. I would like to know what type of visa I could apply for without the need to get married and being able to work remotely for my current Irish company.
I am a highly-skilled engineer and I have a long term residence in Ireland, I have applied for the Irish citizenship but I am thinking of giving it up as it has already taken 2 years.
Is it possible to enroll a german language course and get a visa? Which other options are available?

I would greatly appreciate any suggestion,
Regards,
Ana

There is no visa that I am aware of that would work for the situation as you describe it.

You could try to find a job in Munich with an employer willing and able to sponsor you.

You could get married and apply for a spouse visa.

You could wait until you have Irish citizenship and move as an EU national.

You could enroll in an intensive language course - only specific courses and more than 16 hours of tuition per week - and would get a visa for the duration of your course. If you get work rights at all, you would not be allowed to work full time and you'd actually have to attend the course. If you work full time anyway, that would breach your visa condition, be tax, social and insurance fraud. If you get caught, your visa would be revoked and even if you somehow manage to stay and not get put on the next plane to Mexico, you'd struggle to get a long term residence permit and never be able to naturalise as German. You'd also get tremendous problems if you want to move to other EU countries in the future. I recommend to not even think about it.

I appreciate your reply.

I understand that If I get a student visa I have to attend the course, which is fine. You mentioned that I could not work full time with that visa, is that correct? Even if I continue working remotely and taking the course in the evenings. In 2019, I took a 2 months intensive german course (no visa required) there and the schedule was ok with my working time(8-4). I have a german level A2 and atm I take a two hours per day online class.

About the spouse visa, we have been together for three years here in Ireland and we would like to marry at some point but first, we are planning to settle down in Munich, learn german, get a bigger place and find jobs. My partner's family leave nearby Munich, that is other reason for our decision.

Could we apply for a fiance visa if we book a ceremony in one year time?

Could a job seekers visa be an option?
I don't want to leave my job since I enjoy my job and they are very supportive. The last resource would be to get another job.

Also if you could advise about my daughter, she is 15 years old, she would be attending an international English-speaking school. For what I read, if I get a visa I could get her a family reunification visa.
I am a bit worried that she speaks only basic german and I read that for kids between 16-18 german level C1 is required. She will be 16 in December.

Thank you so much for your support.

Best Regards,
Ana

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

You mentioned that I could not work full time with that visa, is that correct? Even if I continue working remotely and taking the course in the evenings. In 2019, I took a 2 months intensive german course (no visa required) there and the schedule was ok with my working time(8-4).

I checked to make sure and found that a visa for language studies does not allow any kind of work at all:

https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/de/v ... racherwerb

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

About the spouse visa, we have been together for three years here in Ireland and we would like to marry at some point but first, we are planning to settle down in Munich, learn german, get a bigger place and find jobs. My partner's family leave nearby Munich, that is other reason for our decision.

Unfortunately, immigration rules do not tend to bend to ideal personal scenarios, I had to learn that the hard way 20 years back.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

Could we apply for a fiance visa if we book a ceremony in one year time?

One of the required documents is the 'Anmeldung zur Eheschließung' which can be done a maximum of 6 months beforehand (so no ceremony within one year) - on another note, getting married in Germany when one partner is a non EEA national is a bit of an expensive and potentially very lengthy nightmare process. I got married in Denmark because of that. Requirements are country specific, so your partner should contact the register office where you would be living and ask for the requirements for Mexican nationals.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

Could a job seekers visa be an option?
I don't want to leave my job since I enjoy my job and they are very supportive. The last resource would be to get another job.

You can apply for a jobseeker visa but this does not allow any work in Germany, it just allows seeking for work. Any employment can only be taken up once you have found a qualified job and a residence/work permit has been issued.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

Also if you could advise about my daughter, she is 15 years old, she would be attending an international English-speaking school. For what I read, if I get a visa I could get her a family reunification visa.
I am a bit worried that she speaks only basic german and I read that for kids between 16-18 german level C1 is required. She will be 16 in December.

Bringing children over 16 is not easy, especially if the child has no family connection to Germany, which would be the case if her mother is in Germany on a temporary visa and not a spouse visa. Even with the spouse visa, I personally would stop hesitating and get things rolling right now or come to terms with the possibility that moving to Germany may not be possible.

ALKB wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:01 pm

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

You mentioned that I could not work full time with that visa, is that correct? Even if I continue working remotely and taking the course in the evenings. In 2019, I took a 2 months intensive german course (no visa required) there and the schedule was ok with my working time(8-4).

I checked to make sure and found that a visa for language studies does not allow any kind of work at all:

https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/de/v ... racherwerb

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

About the spouse visa, we have been together for three years here in Ireland and we would like to marry at some point but first, we are planning to settle down in Munich, learn german, get a bigger place and find jobs. My partner's family leave nearby Munich, that is other reason for our decision.

Unfortunately, immigration rules do not tend to bend to ideal personal scenarios, I had to learn that the hard way 20 years back.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

Could we apply for a fiance visa if we book a ceremony in one year time?

One of the required documents is the 'Anmeldung zur Eheschließung' which can be done a maximum of 6 months beforehand (so no ceremony within one year) - on another note, getting married in Germany when one partner is a non EEA national is a bit of an expensive and potentially very lengthy nightmare process. I got married in Denmark because of that. Requirements are country specific, so your partner should contact the register office where you would be living and ask for the requirements for Mexican nationals.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

Could a job seekers visa be an option?
I don't want to leave my job since I enjoy my job and they are very supportive. The last resource would be to get another job.

You can apply for a jobseeker visa but this does not allow any work in Germany, it just allows seeking for work. Any employment can only be taken up once you have found a qualified job and a residence/work permit has been issued.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:40 am

Also if you could advise about my daughter, she is 15 years old, she would be attending an international English-speaking school. For what I read, if I get a visa I could get her a family reunification visa.
I am a bit worried that she speaks only basic german and I read that for kids between 16-18 german level C1 is required. She will be 16 in December.

Bringing children over 16 is not easy, especially if the child has no family connection to Germany, which would be the case if her mother is in Germany on a temporary visa and not a spouse visa. Even with the spouse visa, I personally would stop hesitating and get things rolling right now or come to terms with the possibility that moving to Germany may not be possible.

Thank you so much for your time and the insightful information you proportionated. I may update this ticket for the record after I have decided which path to follow.

Best Regards,
Ana

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:32 pm

Thank you so much for your time and the insightful information you proportionated. I may update this ticket for the record after I have decided which path to follow.

Best Regards,
Ana

Ticket. Um. You do realise that we are all volunteers and offer personal opinions rather than advice, right?

ALKB wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:54 pm

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:32 pm

Thank you so much for your time and the insightful information you proportionated. I may update this ticket for the record after I have decided which path to follow.

Best Regards,
Ana

Ticket. Um. You do realise that we are all volunteers and offer personal opinions rather than advice, right?

Sorry I mean "post", I think everyone knows since it is a forum .
I am calling to the embassy tomorrow to see what they think about the case but from your comments it seems the only options are getting a job and apply for a blue card or getting married.

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:57 pm

ALKB wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:54 pm

Jupiter27 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:32 pm

Thank you so much for your time and the insightful information you proportionated. I may update this ticket for the record after I have decided which path to follow.

Best Regards,
Ana

Ticket. Um. You do realise that we are all volunteers and offer personal opinions rather than advice, right?

Sorry I mean "post", I think everyone knows since it is a forum .
I am calling to the embassy tomorrow to see what they think about the case but from your comments it seems the only options are getting a job and apply for a blue card or getting married.

Personally, I think I'd stick it out in Ireland until you and your daughter are both naturalized and all these issues will go away.