LondonApplicant wrote:It’s a topic about the European passport return service, so discussing whether previous passports should be provided, and what the guidance notes say on this, is relevant.
I still fail to understand how a European passport could ever prove residency.
What do you mean by jumping ship?
AFAIK there is no way a European passport would have ever been stamped upon entering or leaving the UK. This does not happen. Ever. No exceptions. None. Or am I missing something?
There may be stamps for entry and exit into/from a non-EU country, but these wouldn’t prove time away from the UK. If, say, a Dutchman spends a week in France, then one in China, then one in Spain, then goes back to the UK, the stamps on his passport will only show the week in China.
LondonApplicant wrote:The point remains that a European passport cannot prove residency, nor time away from the country. Do we agree on this? If we don't, could you please provide an example whereby a European passport would somehow prove residency?
LondonApplicant wrote:No, you haven't.
You have not clarified what jumping ship means, nor have you clarified when how or why a European passport can ever prove residency. The key is 'European'. The online process and the European passport return service (the subject of this thread) are both for European nationals only, NOT for non-European family members of European citizens.
Again, the point remains that a European passport cannot prove residency.
"previous passports" are listed under "proof of residence" in the guidance notes
LondonApplicant wrote:Ha ha, very funny. I do know the meaning of 'jumping ship'. I fail to understand how it could possibly apply to this discussion.
I said that a European passport cannot ever prove residence in the UK. You beg to differ but you have failed to explain why; you have failed to show a single case whereby a European passport, by itself, could possibly somehow prove residence in the UK.
Do you finally agree that European passports cannot prove residence? If you don't, could you please provide a single example of a case where they could?
No, I do not assume any kind of logic behind this process - that was the whole point!
Have a good day.
LondonApplicant wrote:Thank you so much for finally providing examples like I had asked. My mind-reading abilities are not what they used to be (I am getting old..).
Do all of these cases relate to people who first moved to the UK decades ago? I think for the last 10 years - possibly more - European citizens have not needed visas to move to another European country.
Apply for, renew, or replace a document certifying you have the right to live permanently in the UK as someone from the European Economic Area or Switzerland.
In your application you can include your spouse, civil partner, children and other relatives who are dependent on you, or part of your household, even if they are a non-EEA national.
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