Does your degree meet the B1 requirement?

Many thanks for the link. You have put my mind to peace.

A letter confirming success in the life in the UK Test, stamped and signed by the Test Supervisor; and either
A certificate showing that you have a speaking and listening qualification in English at B1CEFR or higher, or an equivalent level qualification; or
If you have a degree taught in English:
A printout from the points-based calculator confirming the equivalent level of your degree and the level of English; or
If your degree is not on the points-based calculator, an original letter and/or certificate from UK NARIC confirming the equivalent level of the qualification, and an original letter from the university or awarding institution on official headed paper confirming your name, the title of the degree, and showing the qualification was taught in English; or
A certificate from the university or awarding institution on official headed paper confirming that the qualification was taught or researched in a majority English speaking country (other than Canada); or
If you are awaiting graduation, or no longer have your certificate and cannot get a new one, you must send either:
an original academic reference from the institution awarding the academic qualification, that is on official letter headed paper and shows your name and the title of the award. The letter should also explain when the academic qualification was, or will be awarded; and state either the date (if you have not yet graduated) that the certificate will be issued, or confirms that the institution is unable to re-issue the original certificate of award; or
an original academic transcript that is on official letter-headed paper and shows your name, the name of the academic institution, the course title, and confirmation of the award; or

This is taken from the link : http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/briti ... ification/

Hi

Pls help me out
I came to uk 20 jan 2009 dependent (Hsmp)
I got ILR on 18 August 2012
I got Life in the uk on 12 march 2012
My husband got British citizen on 26 sep 2013

Now I would like to apply for naturalisation
My query is regarding English test

I have bachelors degree from India and I got uknaric English language assessment c1

Is it sufficient to apply?

Pls guide me as I have ncs appointment on this Friday.

Pls help me asap

hi pls can any gurus pls clarify

as per my understanding and the moderators comments I have seen the pbs calculator will only award 10points for English if naric believe that the degree was taught in English otherwise I will just give u 30points for education but no points for English...........I have got so many friends who got masters degree and the calculator is giving 30points for qualification but giving 0 points for English mostly Pakistan university degrees............

so I strongly understand if u got 10points for English in calculator with original degree its more than sufficient.....

I have so many ppl here getting ilr just by attaching pbs printout with original degree and haven't seen anybody rejected because he hasn't got the letter from the university that the degree was taught in English.

correct me if I am wrong

thnks

Thank you so much for your great help.

Dagandhi wrote:Thank you so much for your great help.

contact home office personally on
KnowledgeOfLifePolicyQueries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk

hi Yasa,

Sorry may be I am missing something but even the reply received from HO which you have mentioned ......

"Regardless of the fact that the degree was awarded 35 points by the points calculator, unless it has been awarded an additional 10 points for English language, , the print out would not be acceptable as evidence that the degree was taught in English. The applicant could request an English Language Assessment from UK NARIC, or provide a letter from the university, on official letter headed paper, stating that the medium of study was English."

It clearly states that if u get 10 points on the calculator that its fine and "if only u get the 35 points for qualification only and not 10 points for English" then the applicant could request an English Language Assessment from UK NARIC, or provide a letter from the university, on official letter headed paper, stating that the medium of study was English

That's what I am trying to prove that if u have 10points of English that only the printout will suffice

what about another reply from HO "https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... 20V2.0.pdf" which clearly states
"NARIC regularly update the online points based calculator (which is on our website) with information about various degrees. If you obtained a degree overseas and were awarded ten points for English language skill, you can submit evidence from the online points calculator, together with the original degree certificate, to demonstrate that you can satisfy the English language element of the Knowledge of Language and Life in the UK (KOLL) requirement."
& another case of success where the applicant just used the undergraduate degree which was on pbs calculator without any letters from university

"http://www.immigrationboards.com/indefi ... 57203.html"

and if u wana be on safe side then there is no end to the no of docs u can put with the application.

thnks hope this clarifies

Amber_ wrote:The letter from the University (on official paper) and the NARIC statement of comparability will suffice the new additional requirement.

Hi Amber,

My wife is applying for FLR(M). I got my ILR last week. She has a bachelor's degree from India taught in English. Same PBS situation where Qualification section scores 30 points and ENglish language scores 0 points.

I do not have a letter from Uni confirming on official letterhead that medium instruction was English but on rear side of each year's "Statement of Marks" it notes that "Medium of Instruction is English".

Will above suffice with statement of comparability from NARIC?

Thanks, S

I would say yes.

I just updated my other thread after reading this one. Please correct me if I'm still not on right track.

Hi all,

I am recently registered to the forum. But I have been reading this forum for quite some time now.

I have been having this question below, but could not find a firm answer to it. I am going to apply for naturalisation this year. I have got a bachelor and master's degrees from a non-english speaking country in Western Europe. When I tried the PBS calculator, it turns out that it gave me 30 points for my Bachelor study and 35 points for my Master's study. However, it gave 0 point for English language in both cases although both studies were fully taught in English.

My understanding is that HO require me to prove the following:
1. My degree / qualification is recognised by UK NARIC as equivalent to UK bachelor's degree; and
2. My degree was taught in English
.....
My question, could I use the following documents to prove the 2 points above?
1. Print out from PBS calculator (which is fed by the UK NARIC themselves) showing that I am awarded 30 / 35 points for the degree. This is to prove point 1 above.
2. Certificate or official letter from my University stating that the study was fully taught in English. This is to prove point 2 above.

Therefore, I will not need to use UK NARIC services (at all) to provide UK NARIC English Language Assessment nor UK NARIC Statement of Comparability.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Anyone with similar situation, it would be greatly appreciated if you could share your experience as well. Thanks.

Hi,
Can I ask how do we claim 20 points for the degree? When I use points based calculator, I see 20 points for salary and 10 points for english. I donot see at any place '20 (or any) points for degree' as is required for the ILR application. (ILR application requires 20 points for degree and 10 points for english). I have also raised this question in another forum
Please answer ASAP. Thanks

any help please?

sv345 wrote:Hi,
Can I ask how do we claim 20 points for the degree? When I use points based calculator, I see 20 points for salary and 10 points for english. I donot see at any place '20 (or any) points for degree' as is required for the ILR application. (ILR application requires 20 points for degree and 10 points for english). I have also raised this question in another forum
Please answer ASAP. Thanks

You are not doing something right. It works for me when I try on the points calculator. Try again patiently going through the steps

I can do it if I select tier 1 - but not for Tier 2.

sv345 wrote:I can do it if I select tier 1 - but not for Tier 2.

You can select T 1 G as well in point base calculator your qualification should award more than 20 points in qualification section and 10 points in English
language section

Hi Malik44,

Thanks - yes when I select (to find out how many points my degree gets me) T1G, I can see the points for degree.

However, I am applying for ILR under tier 2. Do you think people at PEO would accept Tier 1 G printout for Tier 2 based application?

Hi,
I got a lot of information on that thread so I felt it was my duty to register and post my findings.
I sent an email to KnowledgeOfLifePolicyQueries@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk to ask them about my situation.
My wife has been my dependant on Tier 1 and she has a degree from abroad.
Her degree can me batched on Points Calculator but I was all confused about the 20 points degree requirement + 10 points english requirement.

I was told that if you wish to use points calculator to show your degree matches UKNaric then use Tier 1 General with a date between Nov 2008 to Dec 2009. In fact the date does not matter as I asked for further clarification as my Tier 1 started in 2010.

Basically you are not accessing calculator to obtain points but to obtain NARIC confirmation of the degree. Therefore whatever date produces the 20 points for the degree and 10 points for english will be accepted.

Hope this helps

Hi Seniors/Mods,

I have been searching to clarify the points requirement for English Language on Points based calculator i.e. whether you need just 10 points for English language or also need 20 points for qualification. I found some information in the following thread which talks about getting 20 points.

indefinite-leave-to-remain/confusion-about-point-based-calculator-t174829.html?hilit=20%20points%20for%20degree#p1120230

I plan to go next week for my PEO appointment and the issue is that my wife's has got a master's degree but I do not have the degree. And her bachelor's degree only scores 10 points for English and scores 0 points for qualification. The date of entry was between Nov 2008 to Dec 2009 as suggested by Dev1n. Does that mean that it would not be accepted for English language.

A quick response would be highly appreciated.

Thanks

You need both, the date shouldn't matter. I used 2014 for my citizenship application.

At least 20 points for the degree ==> This proves your degree is the equivalent of a UK degree
10 points for English ==> This proves the level of English

UK degrees automatically meet these requirements, so where is the degree from?

Thanks t123456789 for the response.

The degree is from India.

I used Apr 2012 as I got know reading the other threads that between Apr 2009 and Apr 2010, PBS calculator was not awarding points for Bachelor degree. When I used Apr 2012, I can see 30 points for degree and 10 points for English.

I hope that this should suffice, got really tensed about and have been browsing this forum for last couple of hours.
I must say that this forum has been such a great source of information.

I would only take the print out of the two pages showing points for degree and English language along with the degree certificate. Hope it would be sufficient.

That should be fine. I had the same problem with my degree and it was accepted.

I would only take the print out of the two pages showing points for degree and English language along with the degree certificate. Hope it would be sufficient.

Yes, that is all you need.

Thanks t123456789 for the confirmation

Hi rahuls,
I had the same problem with dates as I got Tier 1 in 2010 and according to rules if you obtained Tier 1 in before Apr2010 bachelor degree is worth 0.

Thats why I emailed them and they told be the dates are not important and to use any date that will show the points in the calculator. So just use the dates that produce the points for you and you should be fine.

Cheers
Devin

Hi Forum Members

I have a Masters of Business Adniistration Degree from University of the Punjab, Lahore , Pakistan.

I have letter from University stating that the medium of instruction was English

I applied for to UK Naric for Satement of Comparibility and English Language Assessment.

Statement of Comparibilty:
Is Considered Comparable to British Bachelor (Ordinary) degree standars

English Language Assessment
The level of the English Language for the above degree course does not meet the requirements of CEFR level C1

UKBA requirement is minimum CEFR Level B1

I rang UK Naric and the customer representative said that have contract with UKBA abd compare it with CEFR Level C1 asked them to compare ot with Level BI and they siad they cant do it


I dont need to meet the English Language requirement for ILR as I fall under HSMP JR
but on the safer side I am planning to provide Statement of Comparibility and the Letter from the University stating the medium of instruction was English

For natuirilazation I have no idea.

Please any one from the same country faced situation like this.

Please Please Help me.

Thanks

TM